Dan Sabbagh, Media Editor
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Charles Dunstone, the chief executive of Carphone Warehouse, has said that he would refuse to disconnect internet users caught illegally downloading copyright music and other items.
The Government is trying to persuade internet service providers to reach agreement with the BPI, the body that represents the music industry, to agree a "three strikes and out" policy where people caught breaching copyright will have their connection cut after the third transgression.
However, the proposal is controversial because it requires internet providers to monitor what their customers do, to discover if they are engaged in any illegal downloading.
Carphone operates the TalkTalk service, Britain's third biggest internet service provider, and in a statement Mr Dunstone's company said: "TalkTalk rejects music industry threats and refuses to become internet police."
It said that the proposal would "impinge on customers rights" and "restrict freedom to use the internet".
In response, the BPI said that Carphone was either seeking "to misrepresent our position, or just doesn’t get it". It said that it wanted internet providers to act on information that is provided to them, and said that it "firmly believe in an internet where property rights are respected, and creativity is fairly rewarded".
Other internet providers, notably Virgin Media, have appeared more willing to co-operate. But without the support of all major providers it is hard to see how the proposal can go ahead, unless the Government makes good on a threat to legislate if the industry cannot agree.
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this article has just reminded me to go download a few new albums
Liam, Aberdeen, Scotland
The music industry needs to evolve, I dont think it will I think it's clinging on to the past and will go out of evolution.
davidheath, Reading, UK
These sorts of government-backed strong arm tactics by music and film industry bodies have been strongly opposed in the US and mainland Europe and Scandinavia not just by consumers but also by law courts and internet companies. Our government must not be a soft touch for the BPI et al who seek to make up for technophobia and poor products by forcing more money from consumers. It is all utterly pointless anyway - file sharing traffic can easily be obfuscated and encrypted such that no ISP could ever discover what was being transmitted. The only viable future is one in which the big media industries accept the inevitable - that filesharing is a great way to distribute products, and that it should be embraced, not fought.
Alex Kerr, London, UK
The BPI should be brought to task over the pricing and the quality of the music on offer at the moment.
When you promote Reality rubbish and manufactured boy/girl bands, you get what you deserve!!!
Radiohead allowed their latest album to be downloaded for free, and that CD still sold,
The Internet is the future of the Entertainment Industry, and the BPI is still scratching it's head on how to manipulate that into profit.
neil, Harlow, UK
This is a very sensible attitude: it is wholly improper to require private organisations to act as law enforcement bodies: that is a job for the police.
James E. Petts, Burnham, England
It looks like Carphone Warehouse is set to corner the market now. As a Virgin customer, I have been pondering a move to Carphone Warehouse for months now because of Virgins ever growing costs and pure underhandedness.
I would personally like to congratulate Charles Dunstone and those from Carphone Warehouse that have been involved in this issue, for having the backbone to stand up to the government and for not allowing bullying tactics to intimedate them.
Andy Capp, Stevenage, Herts
Well done Talk-Talk!
Rob, Wallasey,
The fact that P2P transfers such as BitTorrent can be easily encrypted and hidden from any monitoring software means this is all somewhat mute talk. Those caught will be the 12 year olds downloading a couple of pop tracks, while those downloading gigabytes of albums and movies will slip through the net.
Dominic, London,
The BPI's proposals look to be unworkable.
I have Broadband at home with wireless access. This one link is used by myself for business use, but it is also shared by my two small daughters age 10 & 12 for MSN, music downloading and school homework.
I'm not sure my youngest daughter is fully appraised of the latest Copyright legislation. If she did understand it I'm not sure it's relevant to the under 11's ???
"Three strikes and your out" looks like our household would be disconnected. The impact of my youngest downloading three sets of content would seem a little severe.
Could I suggest the BPI work with the larger ISPs at funding some form of analytical engine that works out the largest SOURCES of illegally served content and agree do disconnect them after 1 strike.
My only assumption is my youngest Bethan hasn't worked out how to set herself up as a major content hoster in her bedroom.
If she has, the proposed engines output would be most welcome .....
Chris, Basingstoke, UK
The music industry fail to secure their market with odious DRM, they then take out private prosecutions against a few that they can trace and now they want the ISP's to do their work for them, the best laugh being at no cost to themselves.
If the music industry get their way then file sharers will just use more encryption and IP spoofing to hide your tracks.
I suppose the music industry will then want the ISP's to take the infringers to court on their behalf and not pay a penny themselves towards this action.
The scary thing is that with ISP's having to use packet sniffing software to monitor their customers the government will have access to everthing being sent and accessed on the NET.
This will be the first step towards the policing of the internet and the control of one of the last bastions of free speech.
n Morgan, Stockport, UK