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Coming to the debate a little late I find your contributors to date divide
mainly between supporters of a switch to European time and, interestingly,
those who want to go back to year-round GMT. So I'm in a minority in
favouring permanent GMT+1hr. I'm pursuaded by the argument that there are
fewer accidents on dark mornings than dark evenings, but feel an important
element of any change should be to eliminate the twice-yearly chore of
adjusting the numerous clocks, watches and timers most households and
businesses have nowadays. Summer evenings with BST are surely light enough
for most people, while for business people who want to keep in step with
Europe it should be less of a hardship to rise earlier during the summer.
Scotland, as others have said, can go its own way if it likes. In short, put
the clocks on next March and leave them indefinitely. Barry Goodchild,
Wallington, Surrey
Keep BST all year. Personally I prefer to come to work in the dark and,
hopefully, have it get lighter during the day, than come to work in the
light and spend all day watching it get darker. Due to the change, it now
starts getting dark at 4.00 p.m., by December that will be 3.00 p.m.. The
extra hour of daylight at 8.00 a.m. is such a waste, particularly at
weekends, when we could be out doing something. David Leslie, Crieff,
Scotland
Had no-one else noticed that last week it was still dark at about 8am? If the
clocks hadn't gone back, in a couple of weeks the entire moring rush hour
and school run would have been done in the dark. Morning traffic is worse
than that in the evening already (traffic is more concentrated over a
shorter time), plus people are not necessarily very awake, so it would be a
recipe for disaster. Ultimately there aren't sufficient daylight hours in
winter to overcome this problem, and one rush hour at least will be done in
the dark. Ian Blanchard, St Albans
It seems ludicrous, just as evenings are getting shorter, to slice a further
hour off them by moving the clocks back. You would have thought there must
be some pretty compelling reasons for everyone to accept this without
question. I would love to hear them. David Trafford, London
Please let's keep the evenings as light as possible in the winter - it's less
depressing and would help many thousands of school children to move away
from that sofa and get some outside play. Sybilla Strempel, Ropley,
Hampshire
As an expat I have always found the clocks going back crazy. People are tired
in the evenings and need as much light as possible to drive home in. Also,
that extra hour of light is good for morale. Aussies are cheerful because of
all the sunshine they get. The Brits would appreciate the extra hour of
light in winter enormously and stop us being so miserable at that time of
year. Philip Shipham, Sydney, Australia
Yes we should adopt European time including returning to GMT + 1 in the
winter. Many other countries have 2 or more time zones without any fuss.
This would be something that could make a genuine difference to both peoples
mental and physical well being. For instance, lighter evenings help promote
exercise and sporting activities, helping to fight the growing problem of
obesity in all ages. Paul Cooke, West Yorkshire
I think that we should retain GMT/UTC all year round. It would end this silly
annual argument once and for all.. for which I would be forever grateful.
The time-zone in which we all live (Scots too!) is based on the Greenwich
meridian - and the perceived position of the Sun at noon.. ie directly
overhead the meridian. BST is totally artificial and, in my opinion, a bad
concept. David Peters, Cheltenham
Unfortunatly we seem hell bent on standardising everything British to the
European way. We can all see that we have little British identity, and its
because we are all becoming carbon copies of what the euro-MPs want us to
be. Let's stick to what is British, and not bow to Europe. Matthew
Howard, Witney
I am a Maths teacher and the health and safety rep in a large Scottish
secondary school. I strongly support a move to Central European Time. If 450
people (many of them children) were killed, and many more were injured in a
disaster we would vow to do everything in our power to make sure it would
never happen again. And yet we cause that mayhem, misery and destruction
every year by returning to GMT in October. It is a mistake to believe that
keeping clocks forward will only provide benefit for more Southern regions.
In fact the opposite is true. Alaska, Iceland and Central/Northern Russia
all advance their clocks by an hour in winter (and they all have colder
darker winters than Scotland). In Iceland,in order to keep the afternoons
light till 4pm sunrise does not occur until 11.15am It pains me to say this
about my own countrymen, but I believe many Scots vote 'no' on this issue
simply because "If the English want it, I don't". I'm all for
friendly rivalry at Murrayfield or Wembley but when it comes to saving
children's lives, this sort of attitude sickens me to the core. John
Macnab, Troon
The darker evenings are caused by the clocks being turned back? And all these
years I thought they were the result of the earth tilting away from the sun.
I have never understood BST (B***** Stupid Tinkering). GMT is correct – 12
o'clock midday should be when the sun is at its highest. When Spring
approaches I welcome being able to go to work in daylight, then BST thrusts
me back into winter again. Complete with jetlag. And the evenings are still
dark anyway. Again, at this time of the year, I am travelling in the dark in
both directions when I should be driving in daylight in the mornings. BST
means an extra two months of winter. I don’t want it. If it applied
genuinely in the Summer (mid-May to mid-August) I would find it acceptable –
but any random twisting and bending of the clock hands is going to affect
adversely somebody in some walk of life. Use GMT permanently and let
individuals adjust their own schedules if they must. Or let us all do
everything an hour – or two hours – earlier the whole year round, but keep
time where it belongs – anchored to the meridian. Keith Stott,
Gatwick
The UK should adopt European time. Although it's darker in the mornings,
people are more awake than in the evenings when they are on their way home.
With lighter, and longer, evenings it gives the opportunity for people to do
more sport and leisure activities. Alan Bevan, Lanquais, France
I should be absolutely delighted if we adopted European time and no longer had
to endure the dreary dark early evenings which make winter seem all the more
depressing. Now that Scotland has its own parliament, it could surely opt
to continue as before whilst the rest of the UK could enjoy all the
advantages of lighter evenings and a time zone matching that of the rest of
Europe. Ursula Price, London
Having just returned from living in Spain for twenty years I can vouch for the
nuisance the difference in time occasions. Air travel, telephone, Channel
Tunnel, ferries, television,you name it and it would all be simplified if we
harmonised with the majority of Europe. Why do we pander to a few
Europhobes? David Cotterell, Cheltenham
The UK is perfectly geographically positioned on the world map for GMT all
year round. Time zones change by one hour for every 15 degrees east or west
of the Greenwich Meridian. Let's keep what nature has given us. Geoff
Skuse, Vancouver
The underlying assumptions of the RAC's analysis should be carefully
reviewed/challenged. Regardless of whether the clocks are adjusted or not,
the number of daylight hours diminish until the shortest day is reached.
Using historical fatality data collected for the winter in comparison with
the summer months would undoubtedly indicate more deaths in winter - but how
does this relate to the shift to GMT rather than other factors such as
precipitation/fog? Given that the UK has not experimented with other
summer/winter time regimes since the 1960s there are no obvious benchmarks
on which to base such an analysis. John Cheshire, Woodbridge
At the last Parliamentary vote, a majority of English MPs voted to keep BST
all year round, or move to "Paris" time. But overall the motion
was lost by Scottish and Irish MPs voting against. In this era of devolution
we should allow the Scots and Irish to set the clocks as best suits them:
and the English should set their clocks as best suits us. GMT is probably
best between December 1 and January 31; BST is best in the "shoulder
period" and double summer time from April 1 to September 30. GMT should
certainly finish by the end of February, not the end of March. After all it
starts two months before the solstice, so why does it end three months
afterwards? Philippa Pirie, London
I wouldn't like to fall out with our Scottish cousins ,but the "window"
of light in Winter remains the same - the question is do we push it toward
the evening to make the most of what there is socially - which attracts a
lot of support and which also, according to extensive surveys, would save
more (young) lives by reducing the high toll of evening traffic accidents? I
would say yes, but it would mean Scottish daylight starting at around 10 am
in December. David Moorcraft, Penarth
The problem is that we are forever tinkering. It is surely inconvenient to
change all our clocks and timetables every six months. In today's world
virtually every device one turns to has a clock on it. It also seems
needless to have to readjust our lives in this way, and perhaps unhealthy to
do so, if the safety groups you mention are correct. Of course the evenings
are no darker in themselves, it is we who have to cope with a time
adjustment that may cause those fatal accidents the RAC adduces. Safety
groups often say keep BST and then advance the clocks from that in
summertime. Thus we would still be in this crazy business of changing the
clocks every 30 weeks. I disagree that we should keep BST. I also disagree
that we should adopt a European system. As the world's base reference is
GMT, why not revert to GMT as usual now and stick with it henceforward? It
seems right that we should use GMT all the time here at home. Clive
Melton, Tring
The claim that there will be 50 extra deaths does not take into account that
some people would die in the early mornings if BST was kept during the
winter. As a newspaper roundsman in a rural area I would not appreciate an
extra hour (two hours if some people had their way) of darkness on winter
mornings,we don't all live in towns with streetlights. Too many people waste
too much daylight sleeping in the mornings as it is. Tim Chambers,
Ilminster
There is absolutely no reason whatsoever why a shared border has to mean
shared time zones. Scotland's reasons for holding England and Wales to a
system which is clearly unhelpful, unpleasant and unsafe are purely
economic. If Scotland wants to put its clocks back and forth in the current
fashion let its people change their working hours to suit their business
while we tell the time to suit ourselves. Name and address withheld
Not only should we abandon the use of GMT in the winter but we should adopt
'double' summer time so that we can enjoy the evenings. Travelling to
mainland Europe is always a pleasure as the light evenings allow you to
really enjoy the pavemant cafes and wine bars. Imagine if the British were
able linger on a warm, light summer evening over a glass of red - maybe we
would start to move away from the culture of binge drinking in dark bars. As
for those north of the border - they have their own assembly now, if they
don't like the time changes they can stay as they are and we'll change our
watches at Gretna Green. Martin Pearce, Bristol
I was a student in Edinburgh during the "experiment". It was pitch
dark when I left my first lecture at 10am and was dark again by 3pm. Let the
arrogant English do what they like. We Scots wants none of it. Oskar
Johnson, London
I've tried to think of some really good reason why we should continue with the
current system of changing time twice every year; I can't (except we are
British and if there is a cack-handed way of doing things, we will find
it!). Tom Edwards, Bromley
I thik we should keep British Summer time all year round, the ideas to move
another hour ahead would surely make it even darker in the evenings in dead
of winter. At least with British Summer time it would be lighter and surely
we need some differential from the rest of Europe on something - were not
part of the EU in terms of locality. David Lane, Stoke-on-Trent
Winter time (GMT) is of great benefit for people, like myself, who have to
travel in the mornings over ungritted roads. The extra hour of daylight
allows some time for ice to thaw and for fog to clear. The darker evenings
are not such a problem as the fog and frost usually arrive quite a while
after dark. I believe that quite a few years ago (was it in the 1970s?) the
use of BST in the winter was tried and it was stopped because of the
increase in early morning accidents - particularly involving children.
People who trade with Europe could start an hour earlier without inflicting
it on the whole population. Jana Colchester, Suffolk
I think it should be in line with European time. Banks and other institutions
would then be in line with European markets. Bryan Perry, Dorchester
We should certainly not put the clocks back for winter - in fact we should put
the clocks forward and leave them permanently at the GMT +2. Scotland can do
what it wants. Jorg Beasley, Yeoford
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