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A bishop, no less, has confirmed that last week's flooding of biblical proportions was indeed an act of God. And it means the Almighty is not at all pleased, according to the Bishop of Carlisle.
Graham Dow says the heavy rain is a judgement on the West for decadence, the introduction of pro-gay laws, lack of respect for the planet and a woeful ignorance of the Bible.
"This is a strong and definite judgment because the world has been arrogant in going its own way," says the bishop. "We are reaping the consequences of our moral degradation, as well as the environmental damage we have caused."
He was supported by James Jones, Bishop of Liverpool. "God is exposing us to the truth of what we have done." he said. "If we live in a profligate way then there are going to be consequences."
They didn't say why the Lord picked on South Yorkshire in particular, but dow was speaking from bitter experience. Carlisle was badly hit by floods in 2005, when a month's rain fell in 24 hours.
Rebellion stirs as Mong's troops get ready to hand him revolver
Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse for Sir Menzies Campbell, he could be facing a leadership challenge. It's reported today taht the Liberal Democrat leader could be forced out by senior colleagues if the party does badly in forthcoming by-elections.
One YouGov opinion poll last week had the Lib Dems down at just 15%, and Sir Ming has been heavily criticised for holding talks with Gordon Brown about cabinet roles for colleagues. Many MPs now fear a catastrophe at by-elections next month in Ealing Southall and Tony Blair's constituency of Sedgefield.
"There is now outright rebellion," says a senior Lib Dem. "If we come third he will have to go. We are hoping he will go off on his summer holidays with a pearl-handled revolver in his suitcase."
Tory defectors keep the port, claret and red flag flying
Long before new “Labour” MP Quentin Davies discovered he was a horny-handed man of the people, he was in an upmarket dining society for Tory MPs called the Sibyl Club. Shaun Woodward, who made the same ideological journey, was a fellow member. “At the end of the meal, after port and Sauternes, a selection of new and delicious clarets were proffered,” wrote the diarist Alan Clark after a particularly convivial evening. “I left the Porsche in the street and asked Shaun’s butler to feed the meter.”
You know, I wonder if the latest recruit will feel entirely comfortable in the New Model Roundhead Labour party. Still, after you, Quentin: “The people’s flag is deepest red...”
- “I connect with people,” says the new communities secretary, Hazel Blears. “And I cheer people up.” God save us from being cheered up by the government. At least we’ve been spared that so far.
- The new schools and children secretary gets a rather lukewarm reception from teachers on the Times Education Supplement’s online forum, where it is feared education is being downgraded. One contributor is keen, though. “I quite fancy Ed Balls,” she says.
- There was confusion at the first meeting of the new cabinet about who should sit where around the table, and not just the usual jockeying for position.
Gordon Brown is blind in his left eye, thus the most prestigious positions are directly opposite or to his right. So is it significant that Jack Straw was placed directly to the prime minister’s left. Especially as Jack Straw, the new justice secretary, is deaf in his right ear.
- Lloyd Grossman, the former presenter of Through the Keyhole and Masterchef, has been welcomed into Gordon’s big tent and appointed chairman of the Churches Conservation Trust. His best known public service so far has been modernising hospital menus. So can we expect pitta bread and a light beaujolais at holy communion in future?
- Once Gordon has settled down in No 10, he faces a long war of attrition from Scotland’s SNP government. No issue will be too small to pick a fight over. Papers just released show there was tension between Scotland and England in 1970 about which football managers should get knighthoods. “An undue proportion of honours for professional football is going south of the border,” complained Scottish secretary Willie Ross to prime minister Harold Wilson.
Perhaps Gordon should knight Sir Alex Ferguson again, just to be on the safe side.
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How fact and fiction seem to get muddled sometimes ....
Turns out this whole story is the work of a journalist who rang up and got a bishop to say some pretty orthodox things about God judging sin, and the consequences of human disregard for the environment, put them together with his unconnected but well-known (and equally orthodox) views on marriage and sexuality, and came up with some ludicrious nonsense which he then attributed to the bishop.
Hopefully the journalist concerned found the entertainment value worth it.... !
Eudemus, Carlisle, UK,
This is twisted spin that has been exaggerated to fit personal agendas. The Gay lobby used this to say it was Gay rights being judges when the Bishop has made no such claim.
Judgement comes often in its own consequences of our actions. God is not mocked, we reap what we sow, and unfortunately so do the innocent.
Lets take Marriage. Do not commit adultery.
How many lives are damaged because our society accepts affairs as normal and acceptable.
Dave, Leamington Spa, UK
I think community service in flooded South Yorks is in order for the Bishop of Carlisle for his odious views. He's clearly already adept at shovelling raw sewage.
Lee Holmes, Middlesbrough,
Perhaps the bishop would kindly explain what dreadfull sins assorted creatures committed to have suffered major mass extinctions at intervals (5 of them) from 440 million years ago to 65 million years ago? Seems to me that the flooded "sinners" of Yorkshire etc got off quite lightly.
PS Has intelligent life really evolved?
Gerry, exeter, england devon
You've answered your own question, haven't you? God presumably chose Carlisle because He's sick and tired of the Bishop of Carlisle presuming to speak on his behalf....
Ian Kemmish, Biggleswade, UK
Typical, really! Something good happens, claim it for the almighty. Something bad? It's all your own fault, you heathens! We've had natural disasters for millions of years, this was just a tiny one. This is the never-ending claptrap from people who don't have a proper job. They might get elected, they're not the only daft ones about!
Pete, Telford,
Come on Roland - it's a wind-up. Not even a Church of England bishop would say something that stupid.
eric campbell, harrogate, uk
Do we need any more evidence that unelected Bishops should not be in the House of Lords guiding our legislation?
Martin, Copmanthorpe, York, UK