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Jimmy Carter’s willingness to tell the world the size of Israel’s nuclear arsenal, as he did this week, is just the latest sign of his desire to say what his fellow American politicians find unsayable about US policy in the Middle East.
On the basis of Carter’s speeches in Britain this week, many Europeans would embrace the 83-year-old former President as their ideal occupant of the White House. But in the actual presidential election in November, Carter’s comments, his trip last month to meet Hamas leaders and his book two years ago in which he accused Israel of “apartheid” put him beyond the pale. So much so that Barack Obama took pains to condemn the Hamas trip, despite Carter’s supportive remarks on his campaign, lest the pro-Israel lobby’s loathing of Carter transfer to him.
That may be Carter’s fate: adored abroad and shorn of influence at home. But the divisions within the Democrats on whether to talk to Hamas and Iran, as he urges, and the speed with which the problems will confront the winner in November, mean that if the next president is a Democrat, Carter’s views may have some sway, even if no politician will risk thanking him for them.
It is no accident that Tony Blair, like Carter, has found the Israeli-Palestinian deadlock such a usefully absorbing answer to life after power. To those who care about the region, who want to leave their mark and who have exhausted their political capital at home but still have some abroad, it offers the hope of a deal just the other side of a few more conversations.
But in Carter’s case this has more than two decades behind it, since his foundation in 1992 of the Carter Centre to promote peace and human rights. It could have been no more than one of those things politicians set up after leaving office earlier than they would have liked, but his real immersion in the region’s problems helped to win him the Nobel Peace Prize.
However, his book in 2006, Palestine: Peace not Apartheid, earned him accusations of gratuitous offence in comparing Israel’s treatment of Palestinians with the white South African regime’s treatment of black people.
This week at the Hay book festival, despite asserting that Israel’s security was his prime concern, his criticism of Israel’s actions on the West Bank and Gaza was far beyond sentiments ever issued by a leading US politician in office. “It is politically impossible for anyone holding public office or running for it to be critical of Israel,” he said, while accusing European governments of a “supine” approach.
His assertion that Israel had 150 nuclear weapons was startling because Israel has never confirmed it possesses such weapons, and US politicians never deviate from that line. This was part of his pitch that the US should talk directly to Iran, a course the Bush Administration has treated as only marginally less taboo than meeting Hamas.
But this is the core of Carter’s potential influence: the intense debate, on both sides of the political spectrum, about whether the next president might find it worthwhile to talk to those formerly dismissed as enemies, terrorists or both.
“We must not negotiate with a terrorist group intent on Israel’s destruction,” Obama said after Carter’s Hamas trip, skating round the fact of Hamas’s legitimacy, through electoral success, and its senior roles in Palestinian government. Early in his campaign, Obama had advocated talking to Iran and to Fidel Castro, before Clinton accused him of naivety. Since then he has been quiet.
Although no one has the answer to Hamas, or Iran, Carter is entirely right to point out that they are not going away, and that the tactic of shunning them has not worked. He has taken the first step in breaking the American taboo.
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i thought there was a law stating that the u.s.a. will not "give" $$$ to countries that have a nuclear arsonal.....if they can have these weapons, they can certianly afford their own infrastructure. besides.....is israel truly a "friend" or "ally" of this country ? google the u.s.s. liberty....
kev, san diego,
Jimmy Carter is a great man.
scobra, Los Angeles, USA
"Everyone seems to be willing to tell the world the size of Israels alleged nuclear arsenal, except those who actually know"
I agree, so the UN Security Council should issue an unltimatum that Israel either allow in inspectors or face sactions or disarmament.
Dov Yiking, Freeton, USA
To john in LA, if you are a practicing christian you would be despised and spit upon in Israel just as much as in Iran or Saudi Arabia. Israel is no friend to christians and you show your ignorance by your post.
Tom, Desert Hot Springs, USA
Not 1 oil rich arab country does anything to help the palestinian people.
It is to their benefit to keep Israel as a common enemy. It keeps their own citizens from rising against them.
As a practicing christian what country would you live in if had a choice. Israel or Iran or Saudi Arabia?
john, los angeles, usa
Both Nelson Mandela and Desmod Tutu spoke on behalf of Palestinians in the past and said that Palestinian have to endure, at times, something worse than South Africa's Apartheid. At the time those comments were made, there was almost no reporting in western media. We need brave people to speak up.
M M, London,
Israel is surrounded by countries that show very little value for human life, detest their very existence, and are martyred for killing innocent lives. They've lost their say in what weapons Israel may harbor. Their lack of use of these bombs illustrates the difference in Israel versus their enemies
Pam A., Atlanta, GA, USA
So finally here is one person who actually said "the king has no cloths on ! "
Unfortunately, there are now conspiracies to "destroy the honest man"
So much for Truth, Honesty and our value system!
James, London, UK
If I wore a hat it would be off to Carter. Nobody in politics has the guts to tell the truth in that situation but Jimmy. I'm sure with Israel's huge lobbying power and control over so much media it will stay the same unless people like him and people in other countries tell the truth.
Lee Brooks, Austin, Tx,
Jews around the world are not safe unless Israel is safe. We do not want a second Carter term.
S Friedman, Cincinnati,
Nice to here former Pres. Jimmy Carter come out and say what is a fact. What the Palestinians have gone through in the last fifty years is outright shamefull. What gets me, I here so called American jews saying Carter is anti-semitic. Are they Americans or Israeli ? They always want it there way.
Davis, Kihei, USA
ClairW in London, there is no democracy in Israel, how can you have democracy when all those within your "borders" aren't allowed to cast a vote. I'm sorry but that IS apartheid in anybody's books.
We have all got to look deeper and not just accept the US rhetoric about these things.
Dale, Australia,
So I guess in WWII the Americans should have told the British to 'suck it up' and make peace with Hitler because they are not going away and you'll have to deal with them. Why is it that when the holy British are threatened carpet bombing is the answer but when it comes to Jews they cannot?
Mike, Montreal, Canada
Israel, the hot bed of innovation, is a great country. That little sliver of land has produced more IP and contributed more to world progress than all her neighbours put together. They do need their nukes, and they need their neighbours to know that they have nukes. Thanks Jimmy!
Kara Swart, London, UK
I'm sick of the Israel lobby, both inside and outside the U.S., and their constant meddling in U.S. politics. I should think the Israelis would feel the same way about the constant ham-handed meddling by U.S. politicians in their affairs. Let Israel look after themselves, as can the U.S.
Robert Scott, San Leandro, CA, USA
It's like this: at the end of the day, would a nuclear arsenal be safer with the Israelis or the Arabs? I believe the Israelis have a better system of accountability wheras the likes of Hamas, Hezbollah, etc, etc. have none.
ian cheese, london, uk
Mr. Carter was an embarrassment in office and is one out of office and out of touch. He is no peace-maker, but a bitter man for his failure while in office and now is making the peace process in the middle east more difficult than ever. However, it is true to form.
H. Hylyard Irvin, Peoria, Az, USA
Jimmy. like Harry Truman, made some dumb statements and made some dumb statements. Yet, overall, they were and are on the money. It takes guts to say the emperon has no clothes.
Herschel Atkinson, Elberton GA, USA
I'm surprised that James Earl Carter called Europe 'supine' in relation to Israel. Those in Europe who support Israel may be wrong in doing so, out of cultural chauvinism or misplaced guilt, but they would be doing so by choice. It isn't Israel's oil on which Europe is abjectly dependent.
John Savard, Edmonton, Canada
Strange that nobel peace prize winners rarely, if ever, achieve peace in the conflicts they seek to end. Throughout history conflicts were, and are, caused by leadership power struggles. If only people were allowed to get on with their lives there could be peace.
petere fieldman, paris, france
I believe beyond doubt that Israel has Nuclear Weapons helped by the USA. I have no objections to them having them. Don't forget that Israel is a democracy surround extremely hostile countries . Sadly many Israeli's see criticism of Israli HR abuses as criticism of Israel's existence.
Chris Packham, London, UK
Honest article! Bravo! Bronwen Maddox just gave a chance to the the world Jewery to show its true colors -- deception, occupation, manipulation (DOM). If they really wanted security for Israel within its 1967 borders, Jimmy Carter would not have to restate the obvious truth!
Lauren Miller, Altoona, USA
Martyn & Ian:
Olmert let the cat out of the bag only for those who were eager to see a cat and to see a bag.
And for those who think they know that Israel has nuclear weapons today, I suppose it makes sense for them to also think they know that Israel had nukes back when Carter was president.
Ehad Ha'am, Ra'anana, Israel
Israel has worked a clever trick on the Americans. Everything bad it has done, Americans have also done. Annexing someone else's land? Genocide? A two-tier society with apartheid? Claiming the moral high ground while resorting to extreme violence? Falling back on religious authority? All the same.
Tom Welsh, Basingstoke,
Israel is on a life support machine sustained by billions of U.S dollars in military aid.
jayil, london, uk
There answer to the geometrical problem of peace between Israel and Palestine is as simple as moving a line back where it was a few decades ago. Q.E.D.
San Ying, Montreal, Canada
I am not so sure MR. Carter is such a marvellous guy. Down fall of the Shah of Iran was due to Mr. Carter himself. Since then the ME has suffered the fires of rage. Now we have to buy his book to read the reasons for his blunders in the ME. Has he talked to Mr.Blair?
Tizab
Tizab, Orpington, Kent
Any ex-CIA or ex-MI6 operative saying 10 % of what Jimmy Carter said about the Nuclear arsenal of Israel would have been in prison for a very long time.
Countries have secrets and when they share theirs with friends it is expected from its officials, present or long past, to keep them to themselves
Moshe Haviv, Tel Aviv, ISRAEL
I don't think there was much force involved August...get away from the conspiracy theories. Americans support Israel because they support democracy and they know what it has taken the Israelis to build a state for their people, pity Europe fails to see it.
Clairw , London, UK
Jimmy Carter could ask Hamas and Fatah to organise the voter registration of 2 million+ Palestinian refugee voters. The refugees have asked for it. Palestinian journalists could organise opinion polls. For more info, google: out of country voting
Hugo van Randwyck, London, UK
Ehad Ha'am, even Olmert himself has let the cat out of the bag and as much of Israel's nuclear capability came from the UK/US it is a bit lame to claim that Carter is a know-nothing...
Perhaps also the Times could speculate on why the US allows the Israeli military to guard its nuclear arsenal???
Ian Watson, Gillingham, United Kingdom
The W&M article is antisemitic crock, but the truth is, Israel wields the real power in the middle east. No pressure from the US or europe can strip Israel of its nuclear power.
Adam Barlev, Vancouver,
Jimmy Carter deserves immense and eternal credit for orchestrating the Israel - Egypt peace . However , the years go by , and as people age , two sad things happen - first , the brain functions in a damaged way . Second , the desire to remain in the limelight is stronger than any common sense .
Pinchas Avivi, Jerusalem, Israel
As a American, I believe Jimmy Carter is a great humanitarian, but does he give the psychological advantage in his dealings in the Middle East to the Iranians. I can't imagine that Iran has forgotten the humiliation and anguish that Jimmy Carter suffered in the much publicized American hostage situation during his administration. As nobody in our present political arena possesses his open-mindedness, intelligence or selflessness; he is the best individual for stable input from our country. Mr. Carter has nothing to gain but self satisfaction and further international respect.
John Louderback, Cape May, USA
Does Ehad Ha'am think that Israel has thrown it's nukes away since Carter was president?
"If you want to make peace, you don't talk to your friends. You talk to your enemies."...........Moshe Dayan
martyn, calvia, spain
WHEN WE BOMBED THE NUCLEAR PLANT IN IRAQ, the president, the Pentigon, C.I.A. et al WERE SHOCKED !
They were clueless ! Any concern for the accuracy of Lillian's son; or the rumors thereof, having any credibility, is greatly exaggerated
Ierglib Drawde, JERUSALEM, Israel
Everyone seems to be willing to tell the world the size of Israels alleged nuclear arsenal, except those who actually know. Carter, who has been out of office for 27 years, with his hostile relationship with the US and Israeli governments certainly doesnt have many sources of reliable information.
Ehad Ha'am, Ra'anana, Israel
"Jimmy Carter is right to say the unsayable"
I am glad to read this from a credible Times commentator. There is so much false information and misleading statements on the net, it's hard to find the truth. I have faith in the Times team. Well said, thanks!
jayil, london, uk
Europeans seem to not quite understand how effectively supporters of Israel have forced American politicians to swear fealty to Israel. This is the real 3d rail of US politics. Read Walt & Mearsheimer's "The Israel Lobby" to understand this. This column offers yet more proof that W&M are right.
August West, Tampa, FL USA