Jamie Whyte: Thunderer
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My school provided its sixth-formers with something called liberal studies. In these lessons we discussed issues of concern to 16-year-olds.
I still remember what I learnt about sex. Under a certain circumstance, it is a beautiful thing. This circumstance was not alleged to be marriage. Our teachers were not there to preach Christian ethics at us. Goodness me, no. The special circumstance, we learnt, was love. Sex with someone you do not love is a nasty business.
This is not true, I later discovered. Sex with a person, or group of people, whom you do not love can be a very nice business indeed. I do not know if the teachers who told me otherwise were lying or simply ignorant. And I do not much care. The moment someone decided that our teachers should tell us the circumstances in which sex is to be recommended, we were in for a large dose of humbug.
As will be primary schoolchildren if Gordon Brown has his way and they are taught about drug abuse – a plan he announced last week. Can you imagine a teacher telling children the truth? “Well, kids, snorting cocaine is illegal, expensive and, like some other things you might do, such as skiing and giving birth, it involves health risks. But, by God, it feels fantastic. You will just have to try it and see if the pleasure is worth the costs.”
Politicians cannot resist the temptation presented by compulsory education and a national curriculum. All those little minds just waiting to be formed. Let’s do what people are always calling for and teach them the difference between right and wrong. That will fix society.
Alas, neither politicians nor teachers know what the difference between right and wrong is. If one does, I suggest he write an account of it for publication in The Journal of Philosophy. He will soon be acclaimed the greatest philosopher in history.
What politicians really know is simply what they do or do not approve of. (For the overconfident, this is easily confused with knowing the difference between right and wrong.) And what they would have teachers impart to children is not any real knowledge but only their own values. They want their preferences – for things like loving sex and chemical abstinence (at least in others) – to be made universal by means of the education system.
Mr Brown is so hooked on this abuse of schools that he has suggested they teach an heroic version of history that will make everyone share his high opinion of Britain. Let us hope that these lessons are given a special name, such as “social democracy studies”. Then children will be able to tell when they have temporarily been transferred from a school to a propaganda camp.
Jamie Whyte is author of Bad Thoughts: A Guide to Clear Thinking
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To give Jaime Whyte some credit, and not to stop the debate dead with stupidity, I'd like to point out that he's talking about actvities where there is a live debate about what is acceptable behaviour relating to them; sex and drugs. One of his points is presumably is that where there is real debate still going on the government should not preach just one side of the debate to school children. That's the point to argue over. Personally I disagree with Jaime; I don't think it's worth teaching small minds too much about the benefits of heroin, but I'll be decent enough not to caricature him. Continue class.
Rory, London, England
The similarity between obesity and nicotine addiction is the cost to the NHS. If governments object to this they should consider refunding contributions before denying treatment.
The big difference between overeating and smoking is participation. When I overeat people around me are not necessarily joining in, indeed they are more probably thinking "Look at that greedy bastard, I don't want to be like that." Were I to smoke, people around me would smoke too. There is nothing worse than an unfeeling, selfish person lighting up when I start my second chocolate brownie.
James Lyon-Joyce, Leeds, England
Here, here, Mr Boyce! What young people need is information and access to information to enable them to make informed choices in the knowledge that any choice they make will have consequences in their lives be they good or bad. After all, we are animals capable of reasoning we just need to recognise that we don't all reason in the same way.
Liz, Plymouth,
I had been educated about the dangers of smoking tobacco from a very young age. That didn't stop me using nicotine for well over ten years of my adult life. Ask any smoker and they are aware of their stupidity.
The same is true of drug abuse (illicit and presciption), obesity and so on. The self harmers know what they are doing.
Information at a younger age will not help.
Opportunities for positive living are needed not wasted lesson time.
The most important lesson for everbody is that they are responsible for the consequences of their on actions and what they do to and for themselves will have the greatest effect on their lives.
Richard Boyce, Haywards Heath, Sussex
Well said, Jamie. The world has changed. People don't accept an ultimate arbiter of right and wrong. Any attempt to impose arbitrary moral values will be shown up for what it is: hubris. Psychologists like Jonathan Haidt are beginning to understand where human moral emotions spring from. I'm hopeful that, once we learn more about this, we can re-focus these emotions towards improving our society's survival chances, in particular to meet the twin threats of over-consumption and collapsing reproduction rates.
Rob Wilard, Reading,
Philosophers have a habit of being very silly. In fact Bertrand Russell's silliness was so commented on that he thought he had better try and stop people saying he was silly - so he sat down and thought up a really, really intelligent thing to say which would prove he wasn't silly. What he came up with was - 'They think I'm silly, but I'm not'. Well he was. So is this one. In bucketsfull. No need to take him seriously. Like clowns, philosophers aren't real - they just don red noses for their act.
eric campbell, harrogate, uk
Intelligent liberals like Jamie Whyte are responsible for the state Western Civilisation finds itself in. Right and Wrong certainly exist and need to be taught if our children are not to lead the sort of formless amoral existence that 'what I want to do right now is right'. Jamie Whyte is no doubt a self-disciplined, mature and principled man, and a great deal of his moral strength will have come from an upbringing and an education that involved Right and Wrong. Would he deny the opportunities he had to others? Or are his theories of moral relativism more important than the happiness and good conduct of our young people?
Roddy Campbell, Christchurch, New Zealand
The author has certainly got a point when it comes to the social engineering that politicians seem determined to impose on schools. But schools, like anything else in society, can't operate in a moral vacuum, and as for "just try it and see if the pleasure is worth the costs" - the same could be said for, say, the fun of watching your bomb blow up large numbers of people. This is the logical end of moral relativism.
Andy, Perth,
"Alas, neither politicians nor teachers know what the difference between right and wrong is"
Idiotic moral relativism...
Brian, Bristol,
Napoleon called politicians 'dream makers'. That could also be 'nightmare avoiders'.
Middle-age, middle-England voters fixated with teenage-sex, hoodies and graffiti are to be delivered from evil by Flash (only 24 hours to save the world) Gordon.
As for Britishness, couldn't have anything to do with him being an MP for a Scottish seat imposing laws on English voters who can't vote him out of office could it?
eddie reader, birmingham, uk
All normative judgements are merely statements of preference. And it is impossible for either individuals, or a functioning society, not to make normative judgements. Without a substantial consensus, we'd spend all our time killing each other.
Hence, the proper reply to Mr. Whyte's article is: "Yes? So? This is bad why, exactly?"
S.M. Stirling, Santa Fe, NM, USA