Natalie Haynes
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It’s sunny, it’s warm, and, sitting by my window, I can see a woman in an unfeasibly small bikini, and smell the faint aroma of charred cow. It’s either the summer holidays at last, with attendant barbecues, or there’s been a further outbreak of foot and mouth, this time in North London, and with surprisingly underdressed vets. Which raises the question: if you were 12 and these were your school holidays, where would you be spending them? Outside, with the risks of skin cancer (or, recently, drowning), car accidents and predatory paedophiles? Or inside, with the potential for sedentary obesity and aching thumbs?
The charity 4Children suggests that children no longer relish the prospect of a long break, having questioned 16,000 youngsters and discovered that 70 per cent of them were fearful for their safety over the summer holidays. Sixty-six per cent said they have been bullied in the past year, many outside school. Seventy per cent of full-time working parents continue to work through the school holidays, presumably because most employers won’t let them have six weeks off together.
So, if the kids are so anxious, it’s no wonder that they play outside less and stay at home more. But this, too, appears to be fraught with danger — last week the Professional Association of Teachers called for websites such as YouTube to be banned, to prevent bullying of children and teachers. Kirsti Paterson, who proposed the motion, said that one teacher had been the subject of a death threat — a pupil had posted a doctored picture online, rendering the teacher headless and added the caption, “You are dead”.
Now, I would suggest that bullying is in the eye of the beholder – one man’s victim of bullying is another’s opportunity to educate, perhaps by posting a comment, pointing out that the correct tense to have employed would have been the future indicative, “You will be dead”, or perhaps a nice subjunctive, “You would be dead, were I to be an all-powerful despot, and not some manky, acne-riddled teen”.
I think that it’s safe to assume that most people don’t support the idea of closing down websites they don’t like – the magnificent Emma-Jane Cross, the chief executive of the charity BeatBullying, responded to last week’s suggestion by declaring: “Calls for social networking sites like YouTube to be closed because of cyberbullying are as intelligent as calls for schools to be closed because of bullying.”
Teachers do seem to be having a tough time in the techno-world. In June a teachers’ union called for mobile phones to be classified as “potentially offensive weapons” (along with pencils, which can be used both to write something ungenerous, and to poke someone in the eye. And not Facebook poke. Actually poke). Chris Keates, the general secretary of NASUWT, claimed to have evidence of more than 100 teachers being bullied by e-mail, text message and online.
But cyberspace is just like real space — if you don’t like what goes on there, you can often change it by adjusting what goes on here. In the case of YouTube, the smart thing isn’t to close it down (it has been showing video footage of teachers being harassed in their classrooms; the cool thing to do, it seems, is to goad your teacher into throwing a fit, video it, and then post it online. I know this because a young person told me, not because I am cool. I think even the word cool is no longer cool). The answer is to stop kids having video cameras in the classroom. In my teaching days, which are admittedly distant, hell would have frozen cold and hard before a child brought a phone into my classroom.
Head teachers could reduce this kind of bullying, of children and teachers alike, by explaining to parents and children that phones, mp3 players and other electronica aren’t allowed in school. If they insist on bringing them for that elusive emergency, they can check them into lockers before they go into class, and pick them up at the end of the day. This works perfectly well with rabid journalists at film screenings; it would work perfectly well with 14-year-olds. No one has the right to be perpetually contactable.
The market is already regulating websites — after Panorama recently showed footage of adverts for John Lewis, Orange, BT and others splashed across a site called Pure Street Fights, they pulled their advertising. YouTube is owned by Google, which makes its billions from small ads, just like free newspapers. If no one will advertise with it, it will change its content. This has already been happening in the past few days with Facebook, which has lost advertising from six major companies, including the Prudential and the AA, because its ads were appearing on a rotating basis on a BNP-related page. Which is, in a way, a pity, because the BNP’s presence on Facebook is one of the most unintentionally brilliant things I have ever seen — the British National Party has a link to a listing “50 Mistakes Women Make When Having Sex”. The biggest of which, surely, is finding yourself in bed with a fascist. Do you think that at the end of the night they want to send their partners back where they came from? Me too.
But, then, the BNP’s homepage is also responsible for the funniest headline I’ve seen all year — “Pork Rain complaints from pushy Muslims”. Pork rain, I hear you ask? Is that Prince’s less successful, earlier single? And is it just pushy Muslims who don’t want pork to rain down upon them? Or do many non-pushy, non-Muslims feel the same way? I know I do.
Cyberspace isn’t so bad, you know. Ugly and frightening though it is, the fad for children to injure each other on film will turn out to be just that — a fad. In two years’ time. I guarantee you that they’ll become like every other documentary maker, and the fights will all start being faked.
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re "The competition entrant"04/08/07
question 7.should it not read - Do you ever get boared WITH filling in forms?TUT! TUT!!!
gummer, hereford, herefordshire
So Banstibation strikes again !!!
Maggie Millington, Brittany , France
YouTube already maintains a quite active approach to moderating its content. It has simple and clear systems for people to have offensive or illegal content removed. Banning YouTube would only drive the kids to other, less-well-regulated sites, in the same way that banning Napster fragmented the audio-file-sharing market into KaZaa, BitTorrent, etc, leaving it even less subject to enforcement. The only 'solution' would be to ban the entire Internet, which is neither feasible nor desirable, as it now underpins our entire global economy.
Huw Bowen, Warwick, UK
I agree with the sentiment that sites like YouTube shouldnât be closed down, however, they also need to act in a way so as to be seen to be not condoning/glorifying such acts of violence. Allowing such clips to be posted on You Tube and peer sites, allows the perpetrators and their cohorts 30 seconds of fame and adds to the idea that bullying is OK. Its no more OK than allowing child porn on the internet, it satisfies the same base urges, its immoral. Moderate the sites and put out a firm message that such clips wonât be tolerated. The incidence of bullying will decline. Showing incidents of brutality and humiliation is providing the Bully with a platform to gain kudos; it simply incites Bullying. YouTube also have a responsibility to report violent crime; these are violent assaults, some as serious as GBH, to the Police. Abdicating responsibility for permitting it to be shown, makes them complicit in bullying. Allowing it to be shown increases footfall; the sites gain financially.
Zoë Lynch, Hampshire, UK
Why no weather report from Jerusalem? Who would that information offend?
Mike, L.A., USA/ CA
Bullying generally only takes place in a group bully context., where the bully can be admired by fellow bullies for bravado in inflicting humiliation on others.
On their own such bullies are usually extremely vulnerable, if not to a physical lesson, certainly to ridicule.
It could be time for new dedicated webistes. Bullies.com? and Nameand Shame.com?
Such sites might have stock animations of virtual authority figures such as ex-sgt-major borstal staff or sharia-law practitioners dealing with miscreants to append to the image of known bullies, doing their stuff..
Although the correctness-fixated might frown, there could be scope for a youth military training section to have a wider social remit in this regard.
dr venables preller, Warminster, UK
the headline in question (bnp)was taken from the daily mail and is true.
Paul Slater, Liverpool, England
The "to be" is redundant. Thanking you GCromey
Gordon Cromey, Leeds , Yorkshire
Taking a sideways look at the Facebook ad issue, I thought that we had legislation in the UK that forbids commercial organisations turning down business if offering services to the public. So, if the BNP approaches someone providing advertising services, and they cannot refuse, should there not be a reciprocal requirement to prevent others taking business away from an business if they don't like their other, unavoidable, customers?
Does the legislation actuall apply to British based advertising companies in this way? Or do Political organisations not count as part of the public for this purpose? Are there safeguards to prevent the sort of scope for unscrupulous practice that could arise?
Oh, and banning U-tube et al? Sure, don't let anyone over 30 look at it. I'll readliy give it up to make sure my children are left to get on with their generation's world
Avana Beach, London,
Many people who post these clips don't ask permission from their subjects.
How would you feel if someone took a video of you changing for sports and posted it on youtube, perhaps with some skillfull editing. Before this technology you would find out who it was and least could give them a good hiding - now they can be totally anonymous.
These sites do get away with stuff.. e.g. Ebay could stamp out many of the attacks - by only allowing mails through its internal mail system. That way they could filter bogus ones out... But that requires responsibilty and effort. Better to forward mails onto original mail accounts where it sits with bogus phishing emails - not their problem.
Personally I would welcome someone suing (if possible) youTube...
Terry, london,
Melanie McDonagh's article August 8th - I'm sick to death of reading article after article over the years, from women banging on about NOT breasfeeding. I never see articles from women who ARE breast feeding. So here I go - I did breast feed both of my children, I did so not to annoy anybody who didn't want to or couldn't do so, but just because I could. It worked for me, my circumstances were right, it suited both me and my babies- I never bought a bottle or formula they went straight from boob to trainer cup with absolutely no problems. Why should I feel guilty about that? The problem is that your type of article tries to influence people not to breastfeed, makes it sound as if to do so is not a modern womanly thing to do in 2007. You are wrong! we all should do what we want and are able to do. NOT breasfeeding doesn't make you a bad mother, just as breast feeding doesn't make me (in your words) a human version of Dairy Crest. You didn't do it, that's your choice,get over it!
Chris Oldfield, Chester, Cheshire
Maybe this is just a crazy idea - but instead of banning sites like YouTube, we go after the bullies themselves? We could put a posting of the bullies being hounded and ridiculed by an authority figure.
Maybe we could support the kids that decide to stand up for themselves and others, rather than the usual PC cop-out of punishing them for daring to show some backbone.
Blaming everyone but the bullies just reinforces the power they have over their victims.
Dan, London,
"We mustnâ t be bullied into closing down YouTube"
I guess you haven't seen the foul language/racism used by more than 65% of it's users. However, if it was moderated it can be good fun.
Mohammed, London, UK
I incline more towards the National Front website, particularly the Gardening Page.
Andrew Milner, Karuizawa, Nagano
If a web site's administrators do not have a proactive, pre-emptive approach to filtering content, then that web site is potentially more likely to be harbouring drive-by viruses (especially sites which allow "widgets" as the current crop of social networking sites do), and therefore to pose a real danger to visitors. The virus writers currently seem to be honing their techniques on smaller and more obscure community sites, but it's only a matter of time before they hit the big names in force.
This is probably a better reason to be worried about such web sites than whether or whom the content is bullying.
ian Kemmish, Biggleswade, UK
Ban it. What type of society do you want? Chewing gum is banned in every school I know. Look under the desks.
Roy Davidson, Stornoway, UK
everyone should wear masks in school in case a person gives someone else a bullying look
Dave Winchester, london, England
I'm less concerned about people intimidating YouTube than I am about people beating others into having serious life-threatening injuries. If it's okay to post people being hospitalised on YouTube, and if things which happen in the real world can happen online, does this attitude extend to rape, terrorism, etc? I bet not. So clearly we need to ban all glorification of crime, and close down any website which will not take action to prevent material glorifying crime being uploaded.
Wayne Nigel Senior, Dewsbury, England
What next? Ban pens and paper because they are used by bullies to write threatening notes?
Rich, Birmingham, UK