Matthew Syed
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If Christians really believe that embryos are morally equivalent to living, breathing humans, they would stop trying for children. It has been estimated that for every live birth resulting from sexual intercourse at least three embryos are naturally wasted, which makes all Christian parents, according to their own principles, murderers.
But this rather striking fact has neither registered with the Christian lobby nor deterred it from seeking to impose its dangerously incoherent convictions on the rest of us. As the Human Fertilisation and Embryology (HFE) Bill comes before the Commons today, some churchgoers continue to crusade for a ban on potentially groundbreaking research on embryos. Why? Because these microscopic bundles of cells apparently have souls.
Now, we are long familiar with religious types using unintelligible concepts to salvage their inadequate arguments. But, in a spirit of intellectual ecumenicalism, let's do battle on their own territory.
It is well known that embryos are capable of splitting into identical clones (as happens in utero with twins). But, as ethicist John Harris has observed, what if a scientist divided an in-vitro embryo into four clones, each of which is viable and capable of being implanted? Presumably Christians would say that there are now four ensouled embryos. But what if they were then recombined? Would theists now say that three lives have been destroyed? Without the creation or destruction of a single cell?
The incoherence of the Christian position has not been fully confronted by the Government, despite the fact that the HFE Bill has been applauded for its liberalism. The continuing restrictions on embryonic experimentation demonstrate that ministers are content to compromise research in the “interests” of embryos, or, at least, as a sop to the religious lobby.
Another defect in the Bill has been brought into sharp relief by this weekend's announcement that scientists have created the first genetically modified embryo. A team from New York produced the embryo, which was destroyed after five days, to study how cells and diseases develop. While British scientists may soon be granted similar licences to modify embryos, it will remain illegal to implant them, even though the technology has the potential to correct diseases such as cystic fibrosis and even cancer.
But why do we resist these advances? Is it not time to recognise that the human genome is the product of an arbitrary process of evolution and that any safe method of modification that reduces human suffering or enhances potential should be grasped with both hands?
If the HFE Bill tells us anything, it is that we remain in hock to the moral conservatism of our Christian brethren.
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I thinck that research about embryo are very important.We have to take care about what 's scientist do whith life whith debates.But I thinck that extremist opinion's about embryo are dangerous, aborbtion is a right for women.If men rapes a woman is it normal that she have to support consequences?
pessereau, Paris, France
As an atheist, my position is that there is no such thing as a soul. As for the integrity of the body-complete tosh. I don't believe that the four main monotheistic religions would concede that animals have souls, their belief is that everything on earth was put here by god for the benefit of man.
Chris, St Albans,
Muslims and Christians hold similar beliefs on abortion. Life comes from God (Allah) and should only be given or taken away by him. Would you have had the face (or been allowed) to call Muslim parents murderers in print I wonder?
Our convictions are simple, possibly too simple for you to understand
E. White, York,
I think the main point behind the anti-using human embryos for research/abortion etc is potential. They don't, in that state, have feelings, thoughts, moral judgement - all the things that we value in a human life - but they have the potential to have these things, to be very like you or me.
Anna, Oxford,
There is no need to be Christian (or religious at all) to think that there is something special about human life. If one accepts that specialness, it is legitimate to ask when it begins. I consider abortion for "social reasons" at 23 weeks to be an outrage - and I am an athiest.
Nick, Rotherham, UK
As someone with"afflictions" which today might give rise to considerations of abortion, I say to those who push for such "please put your selfish feelings aside" Your major concern is with your own self image. I enjoy life, yes with its ups and downs and do not fear the end of life.
Keith Birch, Hamilton, Canada
Is or is not male sperm an embryo with a soul? If it is all of us males are mass murderers on a far greater scale than than has ever been conceived of.
It is only a matter of opinion that claims that a baby has a soul. I believe that a soul slowly developes as the child matures. Some never mature.
John D, Perth, Western Australia, Australia
If my Mother had aborted her third child she would have killed me. No ifs no buts.Statement of fact. Your intemperate lagauage does you no credit.
Phil. Anglesey
Phil Pinnington, Pentraeth, U.K.
Yet another example of atheists attacking straw men. Christianity does not teach "eternal souls" (a Greek concept)but bodily resurrection and the sanctity of human life in its physicality. What is clear is that atheism leaves us absolutely defenceless in the face of the culture of death.
MJS, Basel, Switzerland
Other countries have no such qualms when it comes to embryo or equivalent research. Are we then entitled to derive benefits from their research in future? If we do, are we then not being hypocritical now?
Ian cheese, london, uk
nothing in "moral philosophy" says that anything with a body has a soul. If this were so then any plant would also have a soul. But this is the problem with a "soul", this is a religious idea with no evidence to support it. But it is being used to hamper medical development.
P Stokes, Nuneaton, UK
One wonders why Mr. Syed feels the need to resort to strawman arguments (ignoring the moral issue of experimenting on what is, at least in potential, an undeveloped form of human life) while exaggerating the imminence of any benefits. Does he honestly demand no ethical limits on research at all?
David Richards, London, United Kingdom
It's important that we have a moral debate on this topic, but Christians should not be given a louder voice than anyone else. In fact it would be better if they were ignored entirely. Ethics and morals can be debated perfectly well without this particular minority, misguided,special-interest group.
Jack, Stevenage, UK
I'm sorry, but how on earth can you equate miscarriage with abortion? To do so is to insult every couple who have ever known the heartbreak of trying for and then losing a child.
That argument is ill-thought-out and hurtful. Unimpressive, Matthew.
Clare, Manchester,
Gee, given humanity's long and successful track-record in respecting the dignity of others and protecting the vulnerable, I agree with Mr Syed that we can breezily dispense with any doubts or qualms about using embryos. Silly people who believe in the soul, or at least worry a bit... Let's go!
Terence McEneny, Novi Sad, Serbia
I'm not a christian (or other faith), but your argument is illogical nonsense. if the intent is to create life, mere failure does not equate to murder.
and, john, it's not a choice between the mother's life and her child's, but merely the mother's convenience.
jem, london, uk
Just another sad example of how other people's religious beliefs interfere with the chance for real, tangible, 21st century progress. Research that will result in new treatments for deadly diseases that kill millions is pushed back and we ALL suffer for longer because of evangelical finger-wagging
Spike, Liverpool,
It is easy to refute the religious conservatives restrictions on science for the sake of the soul - make them demonstrate the existence of the soul in the first place. They cannot. How satisfying to read a Times column that expresses the moral truth of this matter so sternly, at last.
Liam, Stoke, UK
Natural miscarriages are akin to natural deaths, of which there are about 600,000 in Britain every year. They are not murder, unless arsenic is found in the body, or a knife in the back.
Dave, Wrexham,
I should think it's quite difficult to justify a position here.
The current state of Biology in no way suggests that an Embryo is not human.
So how anyone could anyone justify abortion. Let alone Experimentation. When the mother is in danger the area is blurred. But this is very rare.
Jonathan Pelham, Bristol, United Kingdom
A.Monette, Montreal, where on earth have you found Christian teaching that says animals have souls? You most certainly have a unique version of the Bible if it says that anywhere!
M.Robinson, London, UK
I don't see the logic of your first paragraph. After all, every embryo which goes on to be born will also eventually die.
Peter Taylor, Valencia, Spain
I am an atheist but I object to abortion and experimentation on embryos. Either something is alive or it is not. If it is alive, it is wrong to kill it or experiment on it. How is an embryo not alive? Moreover, Syed's argument is rubbish - we are not saving living children but hypopthetical children
Tim, London,
A set of blue prints is nothing before the building is built which in this case is when the baby is born. Before that it is not a person. Do these people want to send women back to the dark ages. Whose life is more important, that of the woman or the unborn child? Woman every time.
John, Egremont,
Religious people do not have a monopoly on morals or conscience.
My moral feeling is that it is abhorrent to seek to impose one's beliefs on other people.
Everybody is responsible for their own actions. Only I am responsible for mine. The Christinas should look to the motes in their own eyes!
Rosemary, Germany,
Well, according to moral philosophy, anything that has a body also as a soul, including embryos and animals (cf mind-body problem). Animal embryos are obviously less important than human ones, but church teaching holds that they too have souls. The integrity of the body is held in very high value.
A Monette, Montreal,