Janice Turner
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The afternoon that Margaret Thatcher resigned as Prime Minister, friends and I headed for Downing Street where, on the pavement, we passed round a bottle of cheap champagne and crowed. The gesture was jejune, but the triumph real. The Conservative Government remained, indeed had one more election victory to go. But she had gone. A witch's curse had lifted, the kingdom was freed.
It is hard to recall, 18 years on, the hatred that we felt for Margaret Thatcher. For those who had known no other leader - Harold Wilson and Edward Heath being mere Mike Yarwood Show turns - her premiership seemed immutable, eternal. That carping, chiding voice, was the soundtrack to our political awakening. Looking back it was not so much her economic policies that fuelled us, as we were penniless students, remote from industrial struggles. (And on full grants.) It was her cruelty and illiberalism: her contempt for the poor, those whose jobs she had removed, her Victorian judgment on single mothers, her intolerance of homosexuality.
No British politician was so hated. And none so loved. Monster or messiah- either depiction is more real than the two new ones being offered. Vogue this month celebrates Thatcher the style icon, photographed by Mario Testino, her shiny carapace handbags praised, her suits and pussycat bows judged seminal. Meanwhile, a television drama next week, The Long Walk to Finchley, depicts the young Margaret as a ruthless coquette, winning political favour by whirling around constituency balls in strappy taffeta and flirting with an alarmed Heath.
Nostalgia is airbrushing of the mind. Testino's Paris technicians have softened and erased lines until the Thatcher face resembles the smooth immobile mask of an embalmed Russian president. And nostalgia has sucked away the deep and jagged lines of history, of that divided and fraught time, rendered her cussed, uncompromising, terrifying reign into something safer yet far, far smaller.
Perhaps Baroness Thatcher should be aware of her great adversary Tony Benn's advice that the last political battle is to avoid becoming a national treasure: adored yet patronised, revered yet impotent. It is hard anyway to maintain rage at the old. Even when a Nazi war criminal, bent double, mind spent, is excavated from South America, one's head says prosecute, avenge, exact justice, but the heart says: “That pathetic husk? Why bother? Death will have him soon enough.”
And who, even of her old enemies, cannot pity the lioness in winter, frail, widowed, 82, with a ludicrous daughter and a dodgy son, her incendiary mind pecked away by old age. She now has the embattled sturdy-heeled durability of the Queen. When occasionally an old Leftie expresses the desire to stamp on Thatcher's grave - as Elvis Costello did long ago in his song Tramp the Dirt Down - it sounds not merely disrespectful but desperately dated.
Yet there are still those who seem to take advantage of her age. Invited for tea by the Browns and a “tour of No 10” - as if she didn't know her home of 11 years well enough - Lady Thatcher resembled a vanquished enemy general paraded in triumph. And one too out of it even to comprehend the humiliation.
And I am uneasy too about the motives of those who worship her, the Tory boys - now MPs or grandees - who feared Maggie in her pomp and who lately take turns to visit, to have her for lunch or squire her on outings. In her dotage, it seems, they finally have what they longed for - Maggie's attention, company, affection even. And now she can't hurt them any more.
But it is epic, Arthurian, this Maggie love: one day The Lady will return. Indeed two thirds of Conservative voters would today still prefer to be led by Mrs Thatcher in her prime. Perhaps it is nostalgia, after so many wilderness years, for a golden electoral age. Or after so much consensual politics, a longing for clarity and absolute conviction. Lately looking at the ghastly Olympic logo I thought of Mrs T wrapping a tissue from her bag around the awful trendified British Airways tailfins and wishing that it was still permissible for leaders to be stroppy and contrarian even if it made a public scene.
Will we ever again have a politician who prescribes that we drink bitter medicine for the country's greater economic good? Who might, now a recession is brewing, tell those who blitzed their credit cards and overextended themselves on cheap mortgages, that they were idiots, should retrench, quit whining and just suck it up. Maybe Gordon Brown's stern mien and heavy manner would have fared better in that more formal age.
Today while smart-casual party leaders compete to convince voters they are the guy that you would most like to invite to your barbecue it is thrilling to recall a politician who didn't ingratiate or lower the soapbox to our level. Mrs Thatcher's occasional referencing of humble housewifely thrift was mere political window dressing: no one could ever believe she was ordinary, one of us.
Consequently, the only importance of her clothes was not style or male desire or tabloid approval, but to construct a uniform of female power as anonymous and beyond discussion as a male business suit. And in this Margaret Thatcher had the advantage of living in a time when middle age gave women exemption from fashion's diktats and when they were not beseeched to make a life's work of striving to look sexy and forever young.
Vogue interviews Cynthia Crawford, described as Mrs T's dresser and companion, yet who remained utterly unknown during the Thatcher age. There were no Carole Caplin-esque scandals about a woman so intimate with the PM that she boasts “I could dress Mrs Thatcher in under four minutes”, no outcry that Margaret Thatcher was being grandiose in employing a quasi lady-in-waiting to obtain and colour code her outfits.
Fashion trivialises everything it touches. That Eighties style has returned to the catwalks at least twice since Lady Thatcher left power - including in 2004, when the American designer Marc Jacobs declared “this season is all about finding Margaret Thatcher sexy” - has helped to turn our memories of that decade into a retro-montage. Likewise, any historical figure portrayed in a quirky TV drama is immediately more endearing: even the spiky Mary Whitehouse seems cuddly when played by an actress as adorable as Julie Walters.
Rather Lady Thatcher's legacy is in all of us, even those who can hardly bear to admit it, who dreamt of her demise, who loathed her with a passion we will never muster again. We won the moral battle: even the present Tory leader supports gay civil ceremonies, voices support for the National Health Service and every shape of family. But Thatcherism haunts our everyday lives in its vanquishing of collectivism and with the ascent of the individual. I see it in every pushy parent, each fame-hungry reality TV contestant, whenever a mother sets up a small business from her kitchen table or someone says “because I'm worth it”.
It is attitude, not pussycat bows and handbags, that we owe to Mrs T.
Janice Turner joined The Times in 2003 from The Guardian, and writes mainly, but not exclusively, on family matters and women's issues. Her column appears on Saturdays
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to Liz, Inverness,
Belgrano, Miners, Council Houses, Denationalisation........I don't understand your point, are you saying she was good or bad?
Mark, London, UK
I think the last sentence written was the best - the legacy of Thatcher is 'because I'm worth it'. This is not self-esteem voiced - it is blatant individualism. This is singlehandedly the worst thing that has happened to the UK. 20 years on, the children of the Thatcher generation are practicing it.
Stu Mitchell, Harrogate, UK
Have people forgotten the Belgrano sinking and the stance against the miners which caused untold suffering? Both atrocities were perpetrated directly by Mrs T. What about denationalisation and the sale of council homes? We are still living with the deliterious effects of these policies today.
Liz, Inverness, UK
Interesting to see how many people outside of the UK think Thatcher was a great person, and the best thing to happen to us.
Kev, Sheffield, UK
Thatcher brought this country to its knees, that she is not remembered as such is down to the US/EU economic boom that was the 1980s. Under her rule, public services were either sold off or reduced to a shell. The rich got richer, and the poor poorer. Her legacy is a dysfunctional & unhappy country.
John Buckeridge, Harrow, EU
I'm astonished at the number of people who criticise Mrs.Thatcher and whose outstanding example of her wrong doings is "stopping school milk". If that's the worst thing they can think of of her 11 years of Prime Ministership, I think it shows what a shining example of good leadership she was.
Richard, Alicante, Spain
"Why is it that those that hated Thatcher at the time very obviously never understood what she was about?"
That's a bit rude isn't it? What makes you think they (we) don't understand? It's BECAUSE we understand that we detest her and her policies.
Liz, Inverness, UK
Our "Richard, southend, UK" comment says, she did what parents do because she cared.....ask yourself what she did for the kids when she was Education minister and campaigned to stop school milk for children.....why.....yes because she cared !!
PR, Manchester,
I've wished we had a Thatcher in Canada for decades! Instead we got saddled with a socialist Liberal Party that bankrupted and corrupted all that Canada stood for, sold out our hard-working Judeo Christian values for votes, bribed illegal immigrants to come for 'work' and gave them 'welfare forever' and a 'Canadian Of Convenience' citizenship - all for the price of a vote for the Liberal Party.
We have become a nation of irrelevancy, decadence, false wealth, unending taxes - and an economy on par with Marxist Russia.
Tom, Newmarket, Canada
While you were at Uni (on a grant - that this Scottish Labour government have abolished, in England) I was driving a van and getting on with making money and buying a house without some trade union "leader" telling me what to do and when. ZaNuLabour have destroyed the economic legacy of Thatcher.
Stephen, London, England
Why is it that those that hated Thatcher at the time very obviously never understood what she was about? She made the changes she did because she cared. It's what parents used to do when they took responsibility for their children, make unpopular decisions for them.
Richard, Southend, UK
I remember the days pre-Thatcher when it took four men to dig a hole. One to do the work and three to watch, then the Thatcher era made us responsible for our own actions. It's just a shame that now with all these EU directives we've gone back and it now takes five men to dig a hole - four asessors!
Tom, Lichfield,
"It is hard to recall, 18 years on, the hatred that we felt for Margaret Thatcher."......speak for yourself!! I thought she was great, the last true leader this countries had.
sedgwick, London, UK
Marxs ideology came to grim fruition in Russia. Mrs. Thatchers detractors continue unfazed to pine for the socialist utopia. If Janice Turner is still haunted by Mrs. Thatchers vanquishing of collectivism, then she and her champagne cronies deserve another Winter of Discontent. Cheers, Janice!
G. Peterson, British Columbia, Canada
The truth is that, like every Prime Minister and Governent in the UK, the overwhelming majority of the population rejected Thatcher at every General Election she called. Her deeply devisive legacy is with us still. She was elected because of Britain's flawed, early 19th century electoral system.
Neil, Gloucestershire, England
Is it in exaggerating, confused journalists who think that we lead a better life today or live in a better society? Labour continued beautifully where Thatcher left off....I think you forgot to say that.
judy, liverpool, England
Margaret Thatcher saved Great Britain. Many people have no idea how close Britain came to becoming a socialist republic under Soviet rule. Very close. Margaret Thatcher prevented that imminent disaster and pointed the way to prosperity. You just had to work for it.
Tom, Layton, Utah, USA,
I have not seen any messages of support from the north-east,only from people from traditional tory areas and from people who no longer live or pay taxes here.Thatcher fans a bit thin on the ground up here,and wont be missed.
martin, darlington, england
Perhaps you should leave judgements of Mrs Thatcher to those of us who were actually hurt by her policies, rather than those who hated her to simply pass the time or have delusions of rightiousness.
My dad used to say the only thing he disliked more than a Thatcherite was a champagne-socialist.
James, Sunderland, UK
Margaret Thatcher was the best thing that happened to post-war Britain.
JP Harrison, Saratoga, CA, USA
This article seems to sugest that Mrs Thatcher encouraged high spenders to pull in their horns. Hardly - it was under her that the credit boom started.
Matthew Thomas, Bristol,
'her Victorian judgment on single mothers'
Even though I wasn't a Thatcher fan in those days, I always thought she had the right in idea about single motherhood. Looking at the state of a society where the welfare system has encouraged it for so long, would you not consider she was right?
Janet Davis, Sydney, Australia
1979: Britain bankrupt, economy controlled by IMF, winter of discontent, 3 day week etc etc.
1997: Fourth largest economy in world, massive surplus, citizens richer than ever before.
2008: Not enought space to list but refer to 1979 for general jist.
We need another Thatcher and soon...
Anthony, Brum,
It was this woman that started the big social experiment that has ruined our country now, i voted against her.
I hated her then and i still hate her now, [or what she stood for ... ].
Anyway, it's all over bar the shouting now ....
tomireland, Caernarfon, Wales
She saved England from the unions, and today she would save us from the Scots - she did more to help the ordinary people of England "get on" than anyone else has done in the last 100 years - I would vote for her again today - but Cameron never - (from an ex print union member)
Marty, London,
'She now has the embattled sturdy-heeled durability of the Queen.'? The queen still has her marbles, Thatcher lost hers in the early eighties and didn't get found out until Heseltine and Howe found her out. Too late after Scotland and Northern England got screwed. To hell with her and her supporters
McGinty, Glasgow, UK
Miss Turner is evidently old enough to remember Mrs Thatcher, but not old enough to remember what came before her. The country was bankrupt and bitter medicine was necessary. We were fortunate that the right person was there to administer that medicine. An unpleasant job but someone had to do it.
Martin, Newmarket, Suffolk
She had twice as much vision, courage and integrity than all subsequent PMs put together. The poor will always do better under a wealth-creating Thatcher, than under a poverty-creating Brown (or Callaghan, or Wilson, or Blair, or ... ).
Steve, Cambridge,
A great woman who had the balls to make decisions, however unpopular. She saved this Country from the Socialist mess it was in. Now, history has repeated itself and we need another Mrs. Thatcher to get us out of it. Unfortunately, they broke the mould.
Richard, Alicante, Spain
If the US could have a Maggie clone instead of a Clinton! I'd vote for her in a second.
Mike, Austin, USA
Thank God for Thatcher.
She laid the foundation for 30 years of relative stability and changed the perceptions people had to unions and socialism. She left an immutable legacy despite New Labour.
Even all the polls have shown that Thatcher is viewed as the best post War PM even more than Atlee.
Doug, Aberdeen, UK
Thatcher can cope !!!!
ian payne, walsall,
Before the certain flood of anti MT comments arrive let me put in a word of support. She did a tough job at a tough time. Mistakes were made and jobs were lost, but it was all the harder because such decisions had been avoided in the past. We ended up in better shape as a result of her premiership.
John M, Birmingham, UK
"This woman destroyed the hopes of my generation"
What were you hoping for then? An East Germany lookalike?
Alex Swanson, Milton Keynes, UK
We did'nt learn the lessons of Thatcherism, the left has
regained control and the country continues on it's downwards
course of lawlessness, laziness and chaos. The new Tory
government will have it's work cut out.
Jeremy, Somerset, UK
I have always loathed the Thatcher government's ideals.
But I loathe far more New Labour; who by totally betraying it's traditions and values, have perpetuated the evils of unconstrained free market capitalism.
While the government grovels to the super rich, Thatcher has had last laugh.
Norman, Udine , Italy
Anyone wishing to understand the emptyness of thatcherism ought to read Dancing with dogma by her Cabinet Minister Sir Ian Gilmour - an insiders account of what reallly happened
Tom, Aldershot,
"It is hard to recall, 18 years on, the hatred that we felt for Margaret Thatcher."
I don't find it hard at all. This woman destroyed the hopes of my generation and for that I will never forgive her.
Liz, Inverness, UK
Thatcher was a monster who ploughed through this country like an unstoppable tank dragging the poor, vunerable and different with her. I remember during a general election, which I had stayed up to watch, my cousin phoning me at 3am crying because she had won a 3rd term. We were both inconsolable.
Kim, London,
By any standards Mrs Thatcher was a great Prime Minister. As a student at the same time as Janice Turner we Tories fought for the amazingly impressive legacy that she gave the country, via economic rebirth. Quite simply that she settled about whether Britain could be governed. And so socialism died.
Bruce Finch, Portsmouth, UK
A great lady who made it possible for me through hard work to achieve much from a poor, council estate origin.
This current lot of corrupt New Labour power maniacs have ruined the UK. Causing many like me to permanently leave the country of my birth for a peaceful life elsewhere.
God bless her.
John Moore, Paphos, Cyprus
Can you imagine what this country would be like if we had not had Thatcher? We would probably be another ' peoples socialist republic' paradise. For all her faults at least she destroyed the power of the unions who managed to destroy a great deal of our industry.
Chris, Camberley, UK
I was out of the country for all of Thatcher's years in No. 10 (but not by choice). The view from outside was of an PM who was elitist in a good sense, who understood that "the people" includes the worst as well as the best of citizenry. You can't always give them what they want. Am I elitist?
brian t, Dublin, Ireland
Oh, not again! 'She tamed the Unions'! It''s all you ever hear about her political activity.
Add her years in office to those of the current lot and British history is beginning to look like 'The Decline and Fall' except that it won't take as long as the Romans did to bite the dust.
john problem, winchester, uk
At least she was a leader, what we have now is smug cringing politicians not worthy of our trust, especially this government, who has practically bankrupted us all. She gave us worldwide respect.
Graham, Foston, E Yorks
It is easy to forget how desperately skewed left wing politics were when Mrs T came to power. (Look up 'Loony Left' in Wikipedia for some fine examples). I lionise her because she had the courage to stand up for common sense and prudence which Labour have yet to show.
C Harris, Cape Town, RSA
it does not say anything really about new labour, except that they were toothless! Thatcher brought the world of 'me and my money first' to the forfront and look at us now. Labour allowed this debt to spirral even furthereven after the collapse of the eighties and ninties, shocking!!
andrew , edinburgh, scotland
"And who, even of her old enemies, cannot pity the lioness in winter...?" Not me, Janice, not me.
If all we owe the Iron Maiden, if anything, is the "attitude" that hoists individual concerns over those of society, a desirable legacy hers is not.
Rob Steen, Lewes, England
Who's the screaming banshee Janice? You're peas in a pod
At least you admit you were a student when you celebrated her demise
Now you've grown up, go and read a history of Britain of the time to understand why she had to do what she did
Mark Smith, London, England
the legacy of Thatcher- the collapse of our manufacturing base. A service economy that needs people to spend money they simply don't have. Huge amounts of credit that needs to be repaid. Our airports (BAA) are owned by the Spanish. The remnants of our Steel Industry by India. rule Britannia!!
gareth, london,
The reason so many people hated Mrs Thatcher was simple. She told the stark, honest truth, instead of coddling the nation's illusions. We all know, deep down, that there is no such thing as a free lunch, and that every safety net is easily converted into a hammock for millions. Unpopular, but true.
Tom Welsh, Basingstoke,
You were silly to hate her in your youth, and off the mark in your summary of her achievements now. Remember that in 1979 we booted out a failed and bankrupt socialist administration. The 30-year parallels are eerie. Darling, like Healey, will probably have to beg for a bail-out from the IMF.
Neil, Galloway, Scotland
Thatcher's era was in bold strokes compared to today. She singlehandedly contained the unions that were suffocating the UK. Its revitalising effect was felt here in Australia too.
Her conduct of the Falklands war was far less impressive - especially the sinking of the Belgrano - what a blot.
Dennis, Sydney, Australia
Lordy! Bitter or what? And reading the article, it seems this self-confessed champagne socialist personally had very little to be bitter about. It does explain though how the fallacy of NuLabour gained such a stronghold over the past ten years.
John Tomlinson, Brentwood, Essex
Could do with her now.
albert hall, hove, england
Margaret Thatcher was the slap in the face that your country needed. England is still too steeped in the socialist Utopian dream.
After all these years of NuLab, you should be worshiping Thatcher.
You need another slap in the face and a kick up the arse.
EmmaExpat, NY, USA
I guess the process by which Reagan and Nixon were sanitised is alive and well! A long term look at Thatcher's TINA policies does not support the thesis that they were economic panaceas.
stuart-munro, Seoul, Korea
Great Lady, God bless her.
Mike, Sydney,
Your student memories deceive you. Mrs T was in no as censorious as you seem to think. Look up the reasons behind the introduction of Section 28. Remind yourself of how long it took for Labour to get rid of it.
She ran the country like many, many hardpressed working class women ran their households.
J H Holloway, London,