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For Labour, the awfulness of these shambles of a Super Thursday was nowhere more cruelly betrayed – though unwittingly – than by the party’s own chairman, Hazel Blears. To the shambles, and Scotland, in a moment, but first to Ms Blears’s curious admission. Trying to explain the loss of a Cardiff seat, she was reported as protesting that the seat was, after all, “an affluent, middle-class” area. Precisely. And it has been by winning affluent middle-class support that Labour has governed Britain these past ten years. When that goes, its predominance goes. The party is back to bedrock.
Support from about one voter in four must be pretty close to bedrock. If, as Tony Blair claimed yesterday, these election results were “a springboard for victory”, then show me a springboard for defeat. These were dreadful results for the Labour Party. No ifs, no buts, no “not as bad as we feared”. Just dreadful.
It is always possible for party spin-doctors to spread the idea that they were braced for something even worse; that old trick should fool nobody, though elements within the BBC appear to have been taken in. To register some 27 per cent support nationally, when your principal challengers are registering around 40 per cent, to hear your First Minister in once-impregnable Wales declare that “we haven’t won but we haven’t exactly lost”, to be chased out of councils across those swaths of England that Ms Blears would no doubt write off as “middle class” – to be chased even out of Birmingham – is dismal.
For the Liberal Democrats I believe these results are worse than dismal. I have argued that Labour is down to bedrock; but Labour does have a bedrock, and bedrock is firm. Liberal Democrat support is soft almost all the way through. For this party momentum is everything: an impression of motion can be the most exciting thing about a small party. The laws of gyroscopics dictate both to spinning tops and to Liberal Democrats that if you stop moving you may fall over. Caught between two main parties in close contention for government, the Liberal Democrats could sink at the next general election. To run out of steam, mid-term, when the ruling party is plumbing near-record depths of unpopularity must be deeply worrying for Sir Menzies Campbell. It will worry Labour, too, who are the beneficiaries of Lib Dem raids into Tory territory.
As for the Tories, David Cameron’s description of the results as “stunning” overstates. They are less than that but they are pretty good. Before yesterday Labour was putting it assiduously about that anything less than a 600-seat gain for the Tories should be counted a failure. That was never true – but in the event the Tories have done a great deal better anyway. Across what we might call natural Conservative terrain in England the party has come close to cleaning up.
The Tories have strengthened a little in Wales. Across those parts of northern England where they want to conquer new territory their advance has been patchy, with some disappointments and some encouraging successes; but if I hear one more BBC voice announcing that the Conservative Party “haven’t got a single seat in Manchester or Liverpool” I shall scream. If “Manchester” means the city – a small area with quite a small population – then it’s true there are no Tory seats, but citadels like that would only tumble in a landslide. All around “Manchester” the Conservative Party is on the advance. And Liverpool is by no means an example of “the kind of place where the Tories need to make inroads”. It isn’t; they won’t; and that doesn’t really matter.
Vivid – even gripping – as these events may seem to some of us at the time, it’s as well to remember that even for anoraks like me, local government elections do tend to fade quite fast in the memory, all merging into each other. Scotland, however, will not fade. It is for the Scottish parliamentary results that May 3, 2007 is likely to be remembered. This is for reasons beyond the disgraceful failure of the Scottish bureaucracy properly to test its new voting forms before springing them on a bewildered electorate, but let us start with those.
Confronted with a form that says “you have two votes”, I too might have thought I had two votes and that this applied to each list. Add this to problems with automatic counting machines and postal votes – and to the evidence from England that with mass postal voting, large-scale fraud can only be avoided by onerous and discouraging checks – and is nobody tempted towards the conclusion that it would be better simply to revert to the old 20th-century system?
What was supposed to be wrong with the idea of voting at a polling station unless you could show that this was difficult? What was ever wrong with the old manual system of counting, which seemed to deliver results at least as fast, and sometimes faster, than the new arrangements? The difficulties with which we seem to have landed ourselves arise from an attempt to find a solution to a problem that never existed in the first place. It wasn’t difficult to vote. The old system worked fine. Why not go back to it and scrap the so-called reforms?
In the days ahead, Scotland ’07 may become nearly as famous for us as Dale County and the hanging chads became for Americans. But there is an ultimately more interesting reason for studying these results. For many in Britain, south as well as north of the Border, this election may be the first time that the business of coalition-making impinges on the popular imagination as an integral part of the politics of the future. Alex Salmond, with his radical plans and riveting communications skills, may see to that.
What are the unwritten rules? Nobody is yet sure. May I suggest one that I believe may come to seem persuasive? It is that after an election which a big party in government is popularly seen as having “lost” in the face of a strong challenge by a second party, a third party that comes to the rescue of this “loser” and, by forming a coalition or any kind of a working arrangement with it, helps it to stay in power despite an electoral humiliation, will not be seen as having acted in a legitimate manner.
The Liberal Democrats would be most unwise to do this in Scotland. I could hardly believe my ears yesterday morning when I heard Sir Menzies virtually pledge that his party would deal only with the Labour Party when it comes to forming a Scottish government. He said there could be no cooperation with a party that wanted independence, or even a referendum on independence. Yet the SNP is the party that has topped the polls. A Lib-Lab pact for government in Edinburgh would be a terrible blunder. The phraseology leaps unprompted from the lips: “propping up”, “rescuing”, “defying the popular will” . . . this would be a gift for the SNP.
Despite his optimistic talk, Alex Salmond must quail at the prospect of trying to run a minority government – with or without coalition allies – in Scotland. A Lib-Lab pact would relieve him of that task. I cannot conceive of a better launchpad for the Scottish independence movement than a squalid deal between the two parties who did badly in the election of 2007 to keep out of power the party that did well. If Sir Menzies meant what he said yesterday, Mr Salmond is lucky indeed.
Our national general election is now likely to be in 2010 – for why would Gordon Brown call an election before he has to, unless he is well ahead in the polls – a circumstance that looks unlikely? Mr Cameron may emerge as leader of the largest party, but lack an overall majority. He must hope the Lib Dems will repeat the mistake they seem resolved to make in Scotland – and try to prop Mr Brown up for another term.
On the basis of this Thursday’s vote, however, there seems a slight danger that Mr Cameron may get a slim overall majority. Super Thursday worries me, and should worry him.
Matthew Parris joined The Times as parliamentary sketchwriter in 1988, a role he held until 2001. He had formerly worked for the Foreign Office and been a Conservative MP from 1979-86. He has published many books on travel and politics and an autobiography, Chance Witness, for which he won the 2004 Orwell Prize. His diary appears in The Times on Thursdays, and his Opinion column on Saturdays
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I am puzzled. Labour did bad, SNP did well, but there is only 1 seat between them, and less than 50,000 votes. So as the majority of the electorate did NOT choose the SNP, if a non SNP coalition came to power that would be bad? You are still thinking 1st past the post, not PR.
SNP = 36%, Labour 36%, others28%.
John, Glasgow,
the labour party did not even stand in windsor and maidenhead so why bother in the rest of the country are there no labour voters to look after here in windsor
also i think james douglas is right when blair stands down i think the queen should dissolve parliament and lets have a honest election and not have brown forced at all the people that do not want him
john grime
windsor
john grime, windsor, england
To Douglas James,
Without wanting to sound like too much of a republican, for the queen to enforce an election would be suicide for her. Many people in this current state do not support the queen and for her to be seen to become political again, after a life time of being a sitting duck, would be too radical. I believe our current royal family, are thankfully, just there to create revenue for the country and amusement for the media. Long live a democracy in which a family, who are not voted for, have very little, if any power.
Refering to the results, it at least shows that if people want a change, even if the choice is somewhat limited, then one can be obtained.
Paul Brough, newcastle upon tyne,
Indeed these are bad results for Labour, but who cares anymore, they're hardly a new party, with all the old timers from blair to brown. The conservatives have Cameron and Osborne, no baggage, just new, fresh and plenty of ideas.
Just what people want.
Charlie Gimmock, Kent,
To Mike, of Leeds -
Have you heard of Gipton? Of postal vote rigging? How do we know which party the people of Leeds really elected?
What use is an election where there is no confidence that the figures announced correspond with the wishes of those who cast them?
Especially living where you do, I'd have thought you'd have written more carefully.
Michael Bruce, Selby, Yorkshire
In all the talk about Gordon Brown taking over as Prime Minister, I don't think much attention has been given to the ability of the Monarch to select a Prime Minister or dissolve Parliament.
Her Majesty has stood by a promise she made 54 years ago and shows no sign of breaking that promise as long as she lives. Probity, trust and faithful adherence to promises are clearly important to her. Tony Blair was elected on a promise made during the 2005 Campaign that he would serve a full term, therefore when he steps down the term is over. (This is different to the Thatcher / Major handover where no such electoral promise existed)
Under such circumstances, is it not within Her Majesty's power to dissolve Parliament and force a General Election? It is peculiar to think that in an advanced democracy like the UK the hereditary monarch is the only person that might keep the politicans honest!
Douglas James, Middle England,
The spin by labour and its controlled BBC was quite clever,make everyone think the results are going to be disastrous,and when they are just bad its a victory.
steven johnson, bordon, england
It is "Miami-Dade" county, not Dale. I love the Yorkshire Dales though. Good beer.
Coli, Ipswich, MA, USA
Nobody south of Berwick gets it, do they? In simple terms, the SNP is the protest vote in Scotland. Not voting Tory is so deeply ingrained in many Scots, and has been for generations, that they just cannot bring themselves to do it, with the result that the Tories are no longer the party of opposition in Scotland. The Lib Dems are tainted by their association in coalition with Labour, which leaves the SNP as the opposition. Voting SNP does not necessarily mean that Scotland wants independence, and indeed if people take the time to read the SNP's manifesto they will see that there is a lot more to it than that. For many Scots, voting SNP is the direct equivalent of an English person who would normally vote Labour voting LibDem, or a natural Tory voting UKIP. Where else is a disillusioned Scot meant to go with any hope of influencing government? (PS I did not vote SNP!)
Fiona Cummings, Edinburgh, UK
"I cannot understand ...
Edmund Burke, Kingston upon Thames, England"
Wrong Union Edmund.
DB, Kingston on Spey, Scotland
Whistling passed the graveyard. Labour are going down big-time. Unelectable for a generation. No wonder they want to get Socialist legislation on the statue book; last opportunity for some considerable time.
Andrew Milner, Karuizawa, Japan
The predictable election results dominated the BBC news at ten but hope was restored with their own commisioned suvey - the worst pop lyrics ever - If only we could vote the BBC out as well.
Anthony Jeffries, Bournemouth, UK
It seems like every time a government has been in power too long, some of us begin looking at the opposition through rose-coloured glasses and taking their promises seriously. I remember how wonderful things looked the morning Blair took power. Then things we thought would happen didn't, or weren't finished, and when we got frustrated there were all those phony symbolic crises to be met with legislation that made things much worse than they already weren't. Now we have the newly reformed Tories. Good luck!
The Lib-Dems were on the right side on Iraq, give them that. They have been consistent over the years, but this is easy for a party which has never been close to power and can take any position it wants without having to implement it. The nationalist parties look like the products of puffed-up regional egos living off the benefits of union. Are they really serious is a good question.
People paid for analysing elections are mostly clueless except for Matt of course!
Christopher Hobe Morrison, Middletown, Orange County, NY, USA
Very good analysis. The Conservatives do still have a lot of work to do. One thing they should do though, if they do manage to win the next general election is to remove the BBC's licence fee asap. I'm sick to the teeth of such persistant unbalanced reporting.
Marie, Shrewsbury, UK
It is what labour had coming to them it is unfortuneate that there is no one standing against Brown he is no better than Blair and what a chancellor with all his hidden taxes he thought we were too stupid to notice. When the time comes when we have to pay extra council tax for a view what about people in high rise flats.
Maureen Hall, Pool of Muckhart, Clackmannanshire
Correction: It's (Miami)-Dade county, not Dale county, where the infamous 'hanging chad' saga unfolded.
Roy, San Diego, CA, USA
Yo Britain,
Blair, IMHO, "sold out" his own country to a foreign leader who does NOT have the UK's best interest close to his heart. Shame on you Mr. Blair.
Now, can we get out of Iraq, take control of our own borders and focus on Britain please?
James Vernon, Hampstead, NW3, UK
It isn't true that the northern cities aren't relevant to the Tories. The Tories lost councillors in Leeds on Thursday, which doesn't augur well for a general election victory. Prior to 1997 there were always 2 Tory MPs in Leeds - Leeds NE and NW, now there aren't any. The fact is, if the Tories really were back on their way to power in any convincing way, they would have made gains in the north as well as the votes they piled up in the south, including the northern conurbations.
Mike, Leeds,
Quite a good analysis , but more succinctly described as "The unravelling of Blair and Blairism".
john gregory Flinn, Bealencourt, France
The coverage of the elections was precisely as I expected from the BBC. I thought one 'interview' with Mr Reid on BBC News 24 was a gem of impartiality BBC style.
mike, Birmingham,
Was voter turnout in England around 50%? That means that 12.5% of the people voted for Labour not the 27% Tony is trying to highlight. Democracy in the UK is a frightening beast when all he parties look at their real share of popular support.
John, Peterborough, UK
It's Dade County, not Dale County. And, to be precise, the most famous county in Florida Election 2000 fiasco is probably Palm Beach County.
Mike F, Miami Shores, Florida
Actually, to be fair, Blair made that remark early on Friday morning, long before the scale of the defeat became visible.
Interesting that with the BBC's obvious agenda, everyone takes their back-of-the-envelope estimate of equivalent vote shares as truth. I would bet that this is revised substantially during the next week.
Could it be that this election disaster accounts for the sudden loss of interest by the Blairites in challenging Brown ? The alternative strategy of lying low, reforming and waiting for Brown, after two uncomfortable years struggling with the (g)Nats, to badly lose the election, then staging a coup, must now look irresistable.
Pat Stewart, Cranbrook, Kent
You really are a political and very partisan anorak unless you mention a key reality of this election, ie throughout Britain there was a significant percentage of the electorate who wanted to kick Tony Blair for one last time because of the Iraq war.
The turnout everywhere was the usual abismal low figures, and will bear little resemblance to the general election where the turnout percentage will be double.
Cameron knows very well his 40 % share will not be repeated in a general election. He has still a huge amout of work to do.
JAMES GALLAGHER, London, UK
Thank goodness Matthew Parris is one person who tells it how it is,
The BBC underplaying of the Conservative gains was breathtaking. New Labour spin that it wasn't the meltdown that was predicted was equally predictable, As for Ming hands in the air saying how well they had done was pure fantasy. The Tories did very well, but aren't quite there yet....
My only observation on the 2010 scenario , is that New Labour/Labour is heading for opposition and has passed its sell by date. Hanging on till 2010 will be about as useful to Gordon Brown as it was for John Major,
Continuing Bad local election/ opinion poll results will lead to Labour MP's going native to try and protect their majorities. The unravelling of New Labour is a work in progress.
Bernard , Horsham,
Mr. Parris,
The word Europe is missing from your observations and yet the wins for independence in Scotland and Wales should allow the people of these nations to stand in Brussels as equals to everyone else rather than be puppets to Westminster and the English. Surely that is something that Sir Menzies Campbell and Mr. Brown should be proud of as Scots but there, there we must preserve the status quo because we are much better at doing nothing and expecting compliance through status
rather than delivering to the people.
Richard Maryan, Kent, ENGLAND
Great article - I love the title. Blair, interviewed yesterday, looking something of an embittered, frightened rabbit it seemed to me, said the results proved that they could win tbe next general election. With 27% of the vote? Even with their capacity for spin and deception they might have difficulty persuading the electorate they had won a general election with a figure like that. It brought to mind an image of them being dragged kicking and screaming out of government by men in white coats (or in the interests of equality, people in white coats) as they insist : 'but we won, we won - we got 27% of the vote - the people love us!'.
Cameron's description of the Tory victory as 'stunning' was I thought relative to the state the party has been in for the past few years, and by that token, the figures were quite stunning. I think he has every reason to be proud.
You shouldn't have left politics, Mr Parris, your country needs you.
Isobel Jardine , Alnwick, UK
The BBC makes me scream too. Why do we have to accept a public service broadcaster with a blatant anti-conservative bias.
John Marsh, Rickmansworth, herts
Gordon Brown, when Prime Minister, will be sorely tempted to plump for a quick general election.
The Boundary Commission for England can only advise government to keep the parliamentary constituency boundaries fairly reflecting the geographical balance of population. It is a fact that in a general election if the current boundaries remain unchanged, Labour would have a 60 seat advantage over the Conservatives even if they polled the same percentage of the vote. And never forget that the bedrock support in Scotland delivers approximately 50 Labour MPs to Westminster (remember that there no proportional representation in a general election). Will Labour allow all the appropriate changes before the next election to let the voters' voice be heard fairly? Would turkeys in the UK vote for Christmas?
Browns options are simple: call a quick general election or ignore the Boundary Commission for a further two years until after a late general election.
jj, Cambridgeshire, UK
The thought of all those politicans preparing to do deals with each other for power in Scotland makes me realise how splendid our "first past the post" system is. Death to PR.
Northern Ron, Yorkshire,
David Cameron running a minority government?
Bliar is already running one in terms of the percentage of the UK population that actually WANT him to be running the country:-
Polling barely a third of the popular vote in 2005, and FEWER votes than the Tories in England, he was re-elected only by a combination of the Welsh, the Scots, and the bias of the electoral system (that 'loss' in terms of total votes in England actually translated into 'victory' by 80 seats).
Call that democracy? I don't.
Tomorrow the French elect their president. The winner will be the one that gets over 50% of the vote. What's more, voters get to see a proper debate - one on one - between the two candidates to help them make their decision (something Bliar has always chickened out of). THAT is democracy.
Jon Leigh, Southern, France
Dear MP
Don't let yourself get mad about the BBC. Around 3 years ago they succumbed to their dangerous psychotic obsession with political correctness, and now they are stuck with it.
This whole mess and the state of the BBC will only recover when DC has been in for some considerable time...!
bob benaud, london,
Surely, after council elections, this one must hold the record for the incredible amount of spoken and written words trying confirm their own self delusion about the real world. Politicians cannot imagine that the vast majority vote , not with screaming enthusiasm, but mostly with reluctance of choosing the best of a bad lot!
David Vinter, Louth, Lincs., UK
Thanks for this cogent and concise analysis of the situation, especially to show the spin doctors that there are moments in politics when spin just doesn't work and Thursday night was one of them. In fact, I am excited by what happened because it means everything is now on a knife edge and it should be very interesting to see how it develops over the next three years.
My prediction: the LibDems to be anhilated if they don't change their leader fast, which would be a pity after all their hard work over the years to increase their numbers, and wooden, boring Mr Brown to help Labour lose a lot of members with his self-absorbed and arrogant approach. The fourth term curse will also be in action to prevent Labour coming back. Finally, David Cameron to build slowly but meticulously on what happened this week to win outright. I never thought that someone as pro LibDem as I would be rooting for the Conservatives! Just shows the power of change to smack us in the face with its effect.
Elaine Sihera, Maidenhead, United Kingdom
No doubt Mr Salmond will feel morally obliged to run Scotland without the subsidy he so anxiously wishes to escape. That should be good news south of the border.
Steve, Inverness,
You're right that the electorate would find it deeply disturbing if the Lib Dems propped up the failed Labour party in Scotland.
But what a chance for the Tories - to show that they really have changed, by constructively supporting the SNP, working with the greens (whom the Tories are trying to emulate on the environment).
Also - roll on independence. In this day and age, we should encourage individual nations to specialise. We can be best of friends, yet remain distinct. Just ask Jersey, Guernsey and the Isle of Man.
And independent Scotland could happily return to a more neutral foreign policy, like Ireland, and reduce military expenditure - investing the savings in hospitals, education & training, and tax cuts to attract international businesses (like Ireland).
Carl, Brighton,
Now, now, now Matthew, the Labour Party is doing well, their great leader says so and when has he ever told a pack of lies? Are you not listening to the spin? The interesting thing will be...... can Gordon 'lie' as professionally as Blair? He is going to have his work cut out isn't he?
judy, Liverpool, england
Very astute article, especially about the impending coalition in Scotland. Paradoxically the worst outcome for the SNP now would be for Alex Salmond to "win" and become First Minister. By the next election voters would be sick of the sight of him and nervous about full independence for Scotland. A Lib -Lab pact, however , would be brilliant news for Alex, with every problem attributed to the grubby pact which had thwarted the will of the Scottish people etc etc.
John Bailey, Southampton, Hampshire
So we see the other side of bliars and nulabours legacy Iraq and the break up of the UK .was this planned so the eu could take over more easily we may never know for sure.but devolution will break up the UK that is for sure.
mitch, wolverhampton, ENGLAND
I cannot understand what motivates the Scottish independence movement. Surely the boot is on the other foot? Was not the Union between Scotland and England the work of a Scottish king, who inherited the English throne, and decided it would be more practical to reign where shipping fleets could sail up the Thames and do business? Still, if Scottish radicals really do want independence, and are confident that the Scottish tax-payer can meet the demands of education, health and defence, without any help from south of the border, then the English would benefit financially and have no cause to protest.
Edmund Burke, Kingston upon Thames, England
Surely Matthew, you must have grasped the Blair/Labour dictum "If it works, break it".
The pathetic lack of experience in a Labour government during the early years fuelled changes which have proved disastrous. We have been in the 'cover up' phase for the last few. If life experience is anything to go by, McCavity Brown will not be long in admitting mistakes but "nothing to do with me guv". He will do a Nixon and 'bring the boys home' early on..
As for the Conservatives, just another YTS waiting to be put in charge straight from the political academy.
michael murphy, brightlingsea, england
We will at least have a fine example of Proportional Representation in practice ... not "reflecting the will of the people", more like enabling a few Lib Dem leaders to stay in top jobs and decide who is in charge, irrespective of how badly they do themselves..
David Stuart, Aldershot,
A View from England
Tom, San Francisco, California
This is just a mid-term protest vote against Blair and Iraq. The Scots and Welsh will turn back to Labour at a General Election just to stop the Tories getting in.
There is only one prospect worse than Blair and his misguided war and that is the Tories destroying everything Labour has achieved in the last ten years.
John Palmer, Chippenham, Wiltshire
The truth is the results were lousy for all three main parties.
Labour has the comfort of knowing that much of their dismal performance can be put down to a conventional mid-term kicking - especially after ten years in office - coupled with a relentless media-bashing over the Party leadership and the Iraq war. The problem for the other two is that even without that handicap, and with Labour currently weighed down by it, they still look unelectable. Don't crow too soon Mathew - or, on second thoughts, do.
Ken Leyland, Liverpool, U.K.
If Ming is against Scottish independence then why on earth would he shack up with the SNP? And why would a LibDem-Labour pact be "a terrible blunder" - just because of the horrid things the SNP might say?
Is the break up of the Union really a price worth paying just to do down Labour in Scotland?
Bob T., London, UK
Well said Mr Parris,particularly in forcefully nailing the sad decline of objective political analysis in the BBC,which seems to be ideologically dominated by the metropolitan,pol iticallycorrect liberal left.
R G James, Brasschaat, belgium
Dade County, not Dale County
John Young, Cairo,
The Scottish result has made politics much more interesting, a firm illustration that "one person one vote" really does count.
Is it perhaps time now to reconsider extending proportional representation to the national stage?.
william grierson, Kimpton, UK
dear Eric from harrogate you must be the only person in the uk with a nuclear bunker in your garden come on lets
get real here politics is about running a country not about
slick personalities in suits the way forward into the 21st
century is new tax policies new health policies the health
of the nation is paramount if a country is to do well.lets
forget the spin we need new minds and brains in
goverment green issues and energy issues are very
important now and new industry.
george william taylor, hull, uk
Matthew Parris writes:
The difficulties with which we seem to have landed ourselves arise from an attempt to find a solution to a problem that never existed in the first place.
He is wrong, there is a problem. The problem is the demand for proportional representation. Countries with proportional representation always get greater participation in elections than we do. The Governments reforms are an attempt to increase participation and so it can be claimed that the first past the post system can produce the same levels of participation as proportional representation systems.
Clearly these reforms have failed.
Ray Frowd, Cambridge,
Good analysis apart from the conclusion. The thought of a Lib-Lab pact after the next election fills me with dread, since the Liberals would exact far too high a price - a commitment to PR. Paradoxically, PR removes genuine choice from the electorate and guarantees soggy, centre Government ( and the inevitable corruption that goes with it), virtually for an eternity. No! Give Cameron his majority and pray that he makes good use of it.
Richard Marriott, Kidderminster, England
It's better for a Tory writer not to use the words 'it's well to remember'. Many of us do - which is why I pray no Conservative Government ever exists in the lifetimes of my children and grandchildren or hopefully ever. Remember the days of the banana republic under John Major when we were deemed unfit to operate with competent European countries.Remember the 3 million unemployed and the C19 scenes of British police baton charging workers . Remember the Tory conference in Blackpool when Thatcher had to have a warship moored in Morecambe Bay in case of attack by her own people, so despised and hated was she. Anyone who put a cross against a Conservative name on Thursday has amnesia or dangerous ignorance. Remember? We'd better. They had their chance to ruin the country once and we just managed to stop them in time in 1997. Don't give them the chance again - next time they might succeed.
eric, harrogate, uk
Yes, what amazes me that after ten years of lies(spin)sleaze, soaring taxes and general incompetence there are stiil people out there who vote for them - perhaps vote rigging is part of the so called educational system.
victor , Malaga, Spain
I want more to do in a polling station than put one cross in one box. It is not worth the effort. Give me referenda, local or national. Let me vote for the District Attorney, District Judge, Police Chief, School Board, Roads Commission, give me some control through the polling station
TomTom, Leeds, England
Of course Labour has had dreadful results after 10 years in power, just as the Tories did in 1997 after 13 years in power. It's been swings-and-roundabouts in our electoral system ever siince the war, whether in local or general elections. So it's inevitable that sooner or later the Tories will again be the UK's governing party, just as it is equally inevitable that after a few years Prime Minister David Cameron will be booted out in favour of Prime Minister David Miliband.
K Philips, London, UK
You touch on the subject of postal voting. This is "manna from heaven" for the corrupt. And no prizes for guessing which strata of society will be in the vanguard. Cameron must do all in his power to stop this. Unless of course the issuance of identity cards ( as in Hong Kong ) comes into effect. But is New Labour competent to introduce such a system? No sir!
B. J. Carroll, Hong Kong, China
What a pleasure it is to be on holiday in Hong Kong and to be able to read Matthew Parris. Pure unadultarated pleasure.
Alan Howarth, Milton Keynes, Buckinghamshire