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I cannot claim to have been to Redwell in Wellingborough, Northamptonshire, although on paper it would seem a pretty pleasant place, rather more prosperous than average. I have been through Yapton, in Arun, West Sussex, and that is distinctly desirable territory. I think I have cut across Lawford and New Bilton, in Warwickshire, too and while it was not quite the Cotswolds it was hardly a centre of deprivation or tense race relations either.
All of which makes a recent pattern in local council by-elections more unexpected. A by-election was held in Redwell West last Thursday. The Conservatives easily retained the seat but there in second place, eight votes ahead of Labour and with four times the strength of the Liberal Democrats was the British National Party candidate. At Yapton, seven days beforehand, the BNP had come third, a mere seven votes behind the Liberal Democrats, and with almost a fifth of the vote. A fortnight earlier Lawford and New Bilton had witnessed a cracking contest with Labour hanging on by a single vote over the Tories and with the BNP securely third on 15 per cent, well ahead of Nick Clegg's contender.
It is being said that the local elections on May 1 are a rather boring affair with the obvious exception of the battle between Ken Livingstone and Boris Johnson to be the mayor of London. The BNP, however, will be more interested in the Greater London Assembly than whether Red Ken or the Blue Blond wins control of the capital city. For the complex electoral method - the additional member system - used for the assembly means that any political party has a decent chance of winning one of the 25 seats at stake if it can accumulate 6 per cent or so of the vote in the party list section of the ballot paper.
This is far from an impossible target for the BNP. The last local by-election conducted in London was on March 20 at Gooshays in the Borough of Havering. The BNP had narrowly won it in May 2006 in something close to a statistical fluke but now had to defend it after the departure of its councillor. It was assumed that this might be a challenge for the BNP. Far from it. Its share of the vote went up from 28 per cent to 38 per cent. The Liberal Democrats, for the record, managed the singularly strange feat of finishing sixth.
The ward of Gooshays is striking for the lack of immigrants who live there. The ward is 96.4 per cent white, making it one of the least ethnically diverse in London. The place, however, is polarised by age (disproportionately large numbers of very young and very old voters), has comparatively high unemployment and very low levels of educational attainment. It is ideal terrain for the BNP and there are other Gooshays in London. That being so, the stealth success of the BNP could be the real story of the local elections.
This is surprising in many ways. Not least because the BNP has been through a period of fratricidal factionalism. There have been purges, resignations and attempts to establish rival nationalist parties. Some within its ranks have accused the leader, Nick Griffin, of “dictatorial tendencies” (fancy joining a neo-fascist party and then discovering that the führerprinzip reigns there) while others consider him a bit of a pinko for wanting to play down race in an effort to become more respectable.
None of this internal anguish appears to matter much at polling stations. Stick a BNP champion up in a local by-election and he will accomplish 10-20 per cent in swaths of England. On that evidence, the BNP will have its triumph in London.
So why do I expect the BNP to do well? There seem to me to be three factors that might prove important.
The first relates specifically to the forthcoming local elections. The last time that this set of seats were fought was in June 2004 when the tussle in London and councils elsewhere were combined with elections for the European Parliament vote in an attempt to raise the turnout. It did, but it was the UK Independence Party that benefited from these joint elections, not only doing very well in the battle for the European Parliament but in the locals too - it seized two Greater London Assembly seats, for example. The typical UKIP and BNP supporters are by no means identical but there is a degree of overlap between them and the surge for the former did diminish the prospects of the latter. On May 1 there will be no European Parliament poll to help UKIP - which too has suffered from schisms of late - by pushing Europe towards the top of the agenda.
The second factor is that the BNP has improved its organisation. The in-house feuding has not prevented the BNP from honing a much more sophisticated approach to campaigning. The quality of its leaflets has improved, there have been instances of it engaging in telephone canvassing and reports of more “mystery shopping” where its activists blitz an area to market test the public reaction to the party and then determine whether it is worth fielding a candidate.
The final dimension is the most significant. The optimal conditions for the BNP are where there are substantial numbers of disillusioned ex-Labour supporters and a Conservative Party that is wary of concentrating on subjects such as asylum-seekers because it wants to appeal to mainstream metropolitan opinion. It is also a bonus for the BNP if the Liberal Democrats look more centrist and are not indulging in populism to chase the protest vote. These are precisely the political circumstances that will be at play in the local elections of 2008, especially in London.
The main constraint on the BNP in London is how well it can stretch its limited resources. It won 4.8 per cent of the assembly vote in 2004 even with UKIP in the frame. If it can win anything close to double that this time, then regardless of whether it is Mayor Ken or Mayor Boris, it will be the BNP that provides the shock of this election.
Tim Hames joined The Times in 1999 and is a columnist and Chief Leader Writer. He was previously a lecturer in American and British Politics at Oxford University
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The BNP will get my vote at the local and general election. They stand for every thing that needs correcting in this country, and I wish them all the best in their quest to become the government of the future. I really love my country and happen to feel it's worth fighting for !!!
Graham Showell, West Midlands, England
I am a 17 year old muslim girl born and raised in the UK, I love England and can't imagine living anywhere else. I do understand where BNP supporters are coming from, I mean, if I were a white british citizen I would feel like an outsider in my own country. But I feel diversity brings personality...
Sarah, London, England
BNP is not racist, anymore then indigenous Brit is; objecting to another Mosque built on the grounds of a burnt down centuries old Church, or being last in line for a job ETC. But they are branded as such by the Pc Brigade if they dare complain! Brits come last. Wake up to that fact. Vote BNP
Ani, Chelmsford, ENGLAND
I voted BNP even though I do not agree with all of their policies. No other party is prepared to stand up and oppose the deluge of third world immigrant and the consequential surge of violent crime together with gang and tribal warfare taking place on the streets of south London and beyond.
Mark Wilson, London, UK
I'm all for BNP. Born here, ancestors fought for this country, jobs under threat cos PC brigade always protecting foreigner...the list goes on..
ads, London, uk
I look forward to the BNP taking control of this mess of a country and giving us pride and hope once more.
Helen, Caerphilly, Wales
Do the right thing for your country and vote BNP.
Jon Leg, milton keynes,
In the BNP Manifesto. They offer British Born ethnic people £50 000 to regain on their citizenship i.e. right by birth. On acceptance of citizenship from another country. Thanks Nick, but I think I will pass. If it makes the British happy for them to win, fine.but, I will not be moved from my home.
Victoria, Leeds, UK
The BNP have got my vote!! our troops home from Tony Blair's war, not our's! Britain for the British, and if those who have come here don't like it, well get the next fastest transport out and quit bitching, after all nobody made them come! Out of the EU, British rule, British laws & way of life.
A. Press, Sandbach, U.K.
Well, I will vote BNP given the chance.
I am in my late 30s, working hard paying taxes on everything and yet I can't really afford to have children, I am looking into things and I am now shocked to find that the schools in my area are full of non English speaking kids, they don't have a chance.
Andy, Gravesend, England
An interesting read. During a recent trip to the capital I had the pleasure of meeting several BNP members and found them to be very pleasant people - A bit like Tories with backbones. I wish them well, and hope one day they decide to stand in North Hampshire - they'll have my vote.
Daniel Marchant-Clements, Andover, England
They say immigration is good for economy, economy, economy!
You go to Rome, Italian waiters serve you coffee, food, and drinks at the bar. The italian experience! London however you get coffee from a pole, food from a romanian and wine from a brazilian. Not an experience a non londoner would expect
Andy, Swansea, UK
Good luck to the BNP in London, it is high time we had some commonsense policies for our once great capital city!
T Trotman, Leeds,
So Perce in London thinks BNP voters have "sub-normal intelligence" . You may be interested to know that where i live in a small village that is 99.9% white,nearly everyone i speak to
would vote BNP given the opportunity. I can assure you that not one of them is of "sub-normal intelligence" . Time to wake up and smell the coffee Perce
Roger Gordon, Stockport, Cheshire
well I think the BNP only say what a lot of people (true british) in the UK think, so why all the fuss, our old people are treated as lepers, we are a joke all over the world, we are known as the land of free hand outs (but not to our own people) just immigrants and illegal at that, and people do really think our streets are paved with gold, I know I was asked by Nigerians 4 years ago in Lagos is it true, the Labour government is a joke, and the other parties as well, we need a change and quick or this country is and will be taken over by Muslims, who will introduce all their laws and we will be living in muslim run state, if they want to stay here they should all speak english, and not be allowed to have meetings and rally or demostrate on our streets, if they do arrest them and all their families and deport them immediatly, that is what they do to westerners in their country,
david houghton, Wigan, Lancashire
"...Let's hope journalists keep noting and exposing their regrettble, but miniscule, growth where it happens - we need to be kept on the ball.
I'm proud to live in a diverse, multicultural country. And really, most people are.
Emily, London, UK..."
Emily, are you sure that you not not speaking from the Local Authority Discrimination Consultant lobby?
I prefer Mr. Patel (Dentist)'s comments. He came here. He fitted in and worked hard. I doubt if the BNP will make any distinction, and that is the heart rending shame. Successive governments since Heath (having admitted his failure to get immigrants to properly settle in), have failed on the immigration question. Look at the way they rebuffed the question on the last Question Time on 1 April). Only Rod Liddell said that the question was one that the public took very seriously).
Austin Tassletine, South West, UK
Sadly research shows that people of normal to sub-normal intelligence tend to vote for nationalist parties. This is allegedly because the fear of not fitting in or competing is so great with these people that they find it easier to aggress towards people they consider different, in order to keep down the competition pool. As long as more above average intelligence people vote in the by elections and there is some variety in the voting of average to sub-normally intelligent voters the BNP may struggle to progress any political capital from they they alway have been. At the bottom of the barrel.
Perce, London,
Re: James of Swansea and D Rowlands of Manchester. Searchlight Cymru is not holding a conference at the Welsh Assembly ordering people who to vote for. It is a cross party reception reflecting that we are a cross party organisation. As much as you wish to smear us, Searchlight Cymru is not anything to do with the Communist Party, and as its Secretary I should know, and I am not a member. If you and the BNP are so seriously concerned that all mainstream political parties in Wales want to join together with Searchlight Cymru on one wish - defeating race hate in Wales, that you label us all Communists and as a result will consider voting for the BNP, well that is entirely your choice. A strange reason, but entirely your choice. What is remarkable in Wales is not that the Conservatives, Labour, Lib Dems and Plaid Cymru don't support the BNP, it is that they have come together with one voice, united against the BNP. That is a measure of Welsh politics that we should emulate not detract from
Darron Dupre, Cardiff, Wales
John, Richmond. You should be very ANGRY with BNP then: last year on this paper, Nick griffin said that he is willing to give £100,000 of hard earned taxpayersâ money to each immigrant family to leave. Since there are 6 million immigrants, the cost to the country will be over £150billion.
In 2006, UK ranked 12th in the league table of EU countries for the number of asylum applications per head of population and only 10% applications were accepted. Asylum applications are at the lowest level since 1993.
Itâs so hard to claim asylum now that the only acceptable route is via airports. The benefits refugees receive are one third less than basic income support (30% below poverty line).
steve, watford,
The BNP will attract a greater proportion of the vote at all elections in this country. This is because the main parties do not listen to the public voice in imigration. They see vast numbers of "asylum seekers" and others being paid huge sums of tax payers money the day the arrive here. The system is abused resulting in us having to pay huge increases in tax to finance it., and there are the do-gooders who encourage all this. The voice of Mr. and Ms. average is swamped by these people. That is why the BNP will do well at any election it enters candidates and this will happen until the main parties listen to the people and do what they want..
John, Richmond, England
Those of you who are condoning those who are voting BNP, have you lived in an area that has been transformed in front of your eyes through forced multiculturism and mass immigration?
Do you have to walk for 15 minutes before finding someone who can speak english? Didn't think so, so just shut it.
I'm voting BNP, if only to wake up the other parties.
Martin , Harrow, Londonabad, ENGLAND
Jeff, Leeds, UK,
No one is pointing a gun at your head or mine and forcing us to buy EU imports. Exports to the EU have grown substantially over the years and have led to rises in employment and income. Around 60% of UK trade is with the EU. Even the Eurosceptics have acknowledged EU account for at least 10% of the GDP and are not talking about excluding imports, as they know what will happen.
Competition has led to more choices and lower prices and itâs up to an individual or company to decide how they spend their income. Is BNP proposing to legislate against that?
pauline, luton,
I understand people have concerns about immigration, life in the UK is not perfect and neither is multiculturalism. What amazes me though is the victim mentality and semi-catastrophic 'gone to hell (in a handcart, no doubt)' pronouncements. Some perspective needed. A few home truths:
Yes - multicultralism can be problematic.
Yes - not all immigrants come here with the best of intentions.
Yes - there are poor, deprived areas in the UK.
Yes - immigration can have disbenefits.
...and now a few more:
- This Government (not perfect I know) has maintained 10 years or solid economic growth up until this year.
- we live in one of the most successful/richest countries in the world, with one of the world's highest standards of living.
- crime is nothing new and did not come with migrants. Papers/Magazines centuries ago were offering protective devices against knife-wielding London muggers.
The bellyaching and whining is unjustified. This is not Darfur and we do not need the BNP.
RJ, Woking, UK
Andrew Fowler, Ferryhill
I can imagine the fallout from the Labour party will be massive.
In 97 I went with my dad who was campaigning for Labour handing out flyers and chatting with the locals.
Voted Labour last election. Not again though, just as bad as the rest!
And a good percentage of those disillusioned with the clones that are Labour/Conservatives will be thinking about voting BNP.
Jamie, Halifax, West Yorkshire
For the first time ever, I will be standing as a BNP councillor on May 1st in my home town of Ferryhill, County Durham. In 1997 as a member of the Labour Party, I was distributing leaflets on behalf of my then MP, Mr Tony Blair. Oh what a change ten years of Labour have made.
Andrew Fowler, Ferryhill, County Durham
Although I would never vote for the BNP myself, I can see why dissillusioned voters would. They have their country changed beyond all recognition in as litttle as 10 years. That is all it has taken for the Labour Government to inflict its brand of Socialism on all and sundry. The cost of living has shot up, there is a benefits culture which rewards the lazy and fickle, paid for by the exhorbitant taxes of the hard working, multiculturalism has not brought cohesion but racial and religious violence and a breeding ground for Islamic supremacists. Nobody complains when indigenous Iraqis riot and shout about foreign invaders occupying Iraq. Why should indigenous white british people be expected to feel differently when they see alien peoples and cultures 'invading" their country?
Thomas, London, UK
T. Andre:
"Well David, maybe in the cultural and economic hub called Darlington. I live in London, and work in the City - the latter still works fine and contributes to the rest of the London with billions of pounds in tax, because it is multicultural/international. Thanks to the Poles and others we have friendly and capable workmen and on top of that polite service staff. "
Wow - You have just summed it up perfectly.... NOT!
Guess where the BNP gets the most votes? Not in the city, but in these 'cultural and economic' hubs you feel so free to joke about.
But once again, because it is good for 'The City' (hate that pretentious saying!) it must be good for everywhere else.
Maybe if these know it all Londoners tried living in an estate in some ex-mining town, rather than somewhere where immigration is awesome because they can eat their Cambodian sausage followed by ice cream from Ghana, then they would see it from a different viewpoint.
Jamie, Halifax, West Yorkshire
Ken Hall, Barrow-In-Furness:
Fascism is an authoritarian political ideology (generally tied to a mass movement) that considers the individual subordinate to the interests of the state, party or society as a whole. Fascists seek to forge a type of national unity, usually based on (but not limited to) ethnic, cultural, racial, and/or religious attributes.
Joe, Leeds,
Easy to see the rank and file members of the BNP have been poised ready to make comments, whenever an article on the BNP is printed.
margie , victoria, australia
David, Darlington, UK: Almost everyone i have spoke to are fed up of immigrants and as the the report stated, they don't contribute a whole lot to our country.
Well David, maybe in the cultural and economic hub called Darlington. I live in London, and work in the City - the latter still works fine and contributes to the rest of the London with billions of pounds in tax, because it is multicultural/international. Thanks to the Poles and others we have friendly and capable workmen and on top of that polite service staff.
Suggestion to all BNP voters, ask for a swap. Take back all Brits living in the Spain, Dubai, Hong Kong , New Zealand (yub, ask the Maoris if they want you guys around) etc etc and return the immigrants you have.
PS dont forget to ask the companies in Britain especially one of the few competitive industries Britain has the financial services - see what they will say!
T. Andre, London,
I am voting BNP. We have two BNP councillors here in the village of Queensbury. After the local elections the labour councillor who had hoped to lead Bradford council stated in the local newspaper that none of the other councillors would help the BNP councillors to settle into the council routine, that these BNP councillors would be ignored and shunned. How nice eh? The BNP councillors were democratically elected and therefore the rest of the Bradford councillors were in effect refusing to interact with the voters elected representatives and so denying voters a say in matters that affect these voters. If the positions had been reversed and it was labour councillors who were being denied a say on behalf of their voters there would no doubt have been hell to pay. A leaflet put through my letterbox a few weeks ago was entitled Hope not Hate, this leaflet was sent by the trade unions, what Hope I ask? Bloody well none with this government in charge, it is again the BNP for me.
Patricia Beatrice Kenny, Bradford, Uk
pauline, luton
The trade deficit with the EU is £35bn a year.
The trade surplus with the USA is £17bn a year.
How would leaving the EU harm us???????
Do the maths.
(By the way, we have to pay the EU to get this deficit, we don't have to pay the USA. Add that in to your equations)
Jeff, Leeds, UK,
Wow, if it weren't for the addresses, and BNP instead of Pauline Hanson and One Nation, I'd think I was in Australia ten years ago. Pauline's party suddenly became very popular (espousing much the same line as BNP), as much of the country felt disenfranchised by both Labor and the Liberals. But the Libs, under John Howard, listened to what the people wanted and more or less pulled the rug from under Pauline's feet by cutting back on illegal immigration and encouraging people to be patriotic Australians.
Heather V, East Perth, Australia
Years ago I would not have contemplated voting BNP, but then again we did not have Marxist socialism stalking the land years ago.
What a colossal sea change has happened over past 10 years!
Yup, the BNP now look positively attractive, and I for one will give them the ultimate benefit of the doubt and support them in the foreseeable future.
Bernard, London, UK
No not the BNP Just as we have friends and relatives living and working in other countries we must always welcome other nationals to come to England to work and live but they must live by the laws and ancient customs of England most of all we must get back our right of "freedom of speech" Muslims should not be able to rob us of that.......so what we now need is an ENP English National Party follow Salmond of Scotlands lead and let the English form a party to govern England and all who live in England by the laws of England regardless of colour or creed . But no not the BNP they will always and quite rightly carry the stigma of racism even if these days they have toned it down. Isnt there some Political figure out there who loves this old country enough to give us a ENP
GMG, Rugby, ENGLAND
Peter Phillips, Redhill
Exports are worth over £230billion each year. What The BNP is proposing, is that we should jeopardise export sectors where we have a competitive advantage and profitable, with protecting or setting up uncompetitive sectors. The effect would be inflation caused by higher prices.
Land Rover and Jaguar were owned by Ford-an American company. What is BNP proposing; that we should nationalise foreign owned companies? (How is the BNP going to pay for it? They already promised to give foreigners âgenerous finances to help them to leaveâ). These foreign companies employ hundreds of thousands of British workers and HELP the trade balance.
We have huge investments overseas; foreign countries will retaliate.
pauline, luton,
Jeff, Leeds, the immigration that the report was criticising was the mass immigration of unskilled low paid workers in the last 10 years. I don't see how Luke, London is bigoted by advocating a selective kind that brings in high skilled workers r ones with needed skills. If you even are against this then why are the Australians accepting a mass migration of (moaning) Brits through their selective system?
raymond, Liverpool, uk
The scroungers, criminal and other low-life are already here! Vast part of our inner cities are teaming with WCPs, Welfare Claiming Professionals. They 'hustle' to get by.
The BNP would have an almighty fight on there hands attempting to get these type under control. We're not talking about policy speeches, I mean fighting some of the most vile and viscious people I've ever set my eyes on.
Good luck.
John, London,
Luke, London, UK
Both your comments I've read have been completely erroneous.
I suggest you read the Lords report on the 'economic benefits' of immigration. I also suggest you read the BNP manifesto.
Maybe then you may not be so bigotted?
Jeff, Leeds, UK,
Been a libdem voter all my life ... not any more ! I don't know a single person that will vote labour , whereas half my friends voted for them 10 years ago .
Not sure I could ever really bring myself to vote Tory although they are the likeliest of the three mains .
There won't be a BNP candidate for my area although if there were , they would get serious consideration . Mainly as a protest vote . But I really don't see how they could be worse than labour .
The far right will continue to gain support as long as the 3 main parties continue to ignore the interests of the people struggling to get by here . I'm not surprised so many people feel let down .
I also don't believe the comments here are as organised as some think . It may make uncomfortable reading for some of you but I'm guessing these people spend the rest of their lives in very comfortable conditions , oblivious to the problems many face in their day to day lives .
Benzo , Nr Chelmsford,
Emily of London - you are wrong, most people are not proud to live in a diverse, multicultural country. Almost everyone i have spoke to are fed up of immigrants and as the the report stated, they don't contribute a whole lot to our country.
David, Darlington, UK
Garreth Monmoth, I'm in exactly the same boat, I'm sure my retired, hard working, educated, well travelled, disenfranchised parents will be duped into voting BNP too, they've already said as much.
When will this pathetic government wake up to the disaster (multiculturalism) that is creating such an undercurrent of resentment in the UK? Multiculturalism needs to be replaced by toleration, immigration must be controlled and we must allow the country to re-establish its identity and be proud to do so.
How many other countries would have banned its patron saints day 'St Georges day' for fear of offending minorities.
The repercussions will ring out for many years to come.
Its right to be scared of the BNP, but labour are driving many into their open arms.
Dave, Gibraltar,
I greatly admire the BNP, and wish them all the luck and success in the world. I'm one of the rather small number of Americans who pays attention to British politics, and I must say, as a conservative, I don't know how I could ever support the ridiculous "Conservative Party" as led by that buffoonish little twerp, David Cameron (I frankly don't know anything more constructive I can say about the man; he seems beyond redemption). The BNP, on the other hand, seems to actually advocate the things that conservative-minded people tend to believe. Perhaps if they were given a fair shake in the media, they might be doing much better in the elections? Its the same in this country, where conservatives voted for that awful man who calls himself our "President," presumably for fear the Democrats would be even worse. At least with David Cameron's party, it should be obvious to all that its no different from "New" Labour, so there's no reason not to vote BNP. Now if only we had an ANP....
Kevin Riley O'Keeffe, San Jose, California, USA
I have never voted for the BNP before, let alone been a supporter, but the failure of the main parties to recognise the damage being done to this country ensures that I will consider the BNP's manifesto carefully and vote for them if they are offering an effective solution to what has become the defining problem of this century in the UK.
Vincent Coles, Forfar,
What people should look at are the numbers. in 2005 only 22% of the population voted labour. almost 40% did not vote at all as they felt either totally apathetic, or more commonly, they felt that there wasn't any party who represented their views that had a chance.
Today, labour has about 17% support, Tories 18%. More and more people are fed up of all three "mainstream" political parties and the liberal media that lies to us on a daily basis.
The 40% who are the fed up, non-voting section of society are NOT represented in mainstream opinion polls.
All it would take is for this current 40% who are sick and tired of the status-quo to unite and vote BNP and they WOULD win by a landslide.
Ken Hall, Barrow in Furness, UK
A BNP voter once told me "oh, YOU'RE alright", purely based on the colour of my skin. Charming.
M.R., Stockport,
I think the only good that will come of voting for the BNP is to shock our big parties (with the experience, size and ability to actually run the country) into realising how serious the anxieties of the British public are with regards to immigration.
My family history is in London but I just don't think I can continue living here. It is incredibly over populated - the transport system is being pushed to it's maximum capacity, little more can be done to relieve it. I have grown up in schools that breed the racist tension this causes.
I went to University in Sheffield, and have to say there was little tension there as public services were not buckling under the pressure. Perhaps we should spend more public money on other UK cities so immigrants are attracted elsewhere. London cannot cope. I believe in the importance of integrating everyone to make an equal society, but I also believe we should temporarily freeze these numbers to adjust to the vast numbers we have recently let in.
Sally, London, UK
DrPPatel, london, uk - not all bnp voters dislike non whites, (policy or no policy) there are no hindu suicide bombers that i am aware of
Daniel K888, Melbourne , Australia
I will be voting BNP :)
John, London,
Thatcherism stole the thunder of the National Front and so (compounded with their own failings) destroyed them. Cameron's Tories can't even steal the thunder of Blairism let alone the far right, so clearly there is a niche opening. There will always be a strong right wing grouping in any liberal democracy. The danger for Britain is if the Conservative party lacks the courage and conviction to be it. Please stop them David, or stand aside.
E Skelton, cardiff, wales
A predicted shock victory for the BNP? I thought they were on a downward turn since the last elections. They don't stay long on the councils. People realise how useless they are (with little interest in real local issues, not turning up to meetings etc) and then vote them out accordingly. They are a true wolf in sheep's clothing. They do not care about the electorate.
The amount of supporters who have turned up to post here give a skewed perspective of their level of support.
Nick Griffin may be pedalling a nice and reasonable image, but there are far more hardline characters within their ranks, who disagree with his approach. I'll bet that, given power, Griffin would be out the door before too long, booted out by his own party. Then the country would be in real trouble.
Thomas, London,
âPaulineâ, of Luton, said that if the BNP implemented its policy of selectively excluding foreign imports then those countries would retaliate by excluding our exports. What exports Pauline? We have a huge, record, balance of trade deficit, yet over the last few decades, under both Labour and Tory governments, we have seen our whole manufacturing base collapse or sold off to foreign companies. The latest victims are Land Rover and Jaguar. So whoâs making the things to export?
I am sure we face not just a recession but an economic collapse because we have built up such huge national and person debts but now have no means of repaying them.
Peter Phillips, Redhill, UK
I see no point in voting for a Political Party that wants foreigners to do their job. I see no point in continuing to PAY their vast expenses and 'wages' for not being able to do the job of governing us either. If we do have a further General Election, if an UK Parliament still exists, I will only vote for a Parly that will repudiate all EU Treaties.
Anne, West Midlands, England
Quote "Peter from London, you say that you that you are a highly qualifiled professional at that the BNP is not facist. Have you looked into the history of the BNP? Do you know about the history of the National Front, The links with facists groups, the criminal pasts (a lot of it racial criminality) of a lot of the members and candidates?
I think you would have done better to announce yourself as a considered highly qualififed professional and let others make the judgement on your intelligence because I thought that academia taught their students how to study, compile information and to sort between the wheat and chaff.
Clearly an important aspect of academia that has bypassed you.
kim, London, "
Kim, You clearly have no understanding of what fascism actually is. It is Corporatism, ie the merge of corporations and the state. and the BNP is against this. Racism/fasism is a smokescreen that the corporate establishment throw at the BNP but it is not sticking.
Ken Hall, Barrow in Furness, UK
What I want to see is a party that introduces senisble, fair but tough immigration controls that allow in the skilled, desirable immigrants and keep out the spongers, criminals and other no-gooders that want to come here because they think it's easy pickings.
However the good immigrants who are prepared to make a positive contribution to this country and respect British values etc have to be accepted in reuturn. That is where the BNP with it's tar all immigrants with the same brush atticude falls down.
Luke, London, UK
I cannot say that I have so far given a great deal of thought to the BNP. I only know their policies in the most general terms, and these have almost certainly come to me from biased sources. This realisation alone makes me think, and ought to make others think, just what is it that the unholy liberal alliance of the "main" parties is so afraid of? The media usually find it impossible to utter BNP without some sort of apology, on the very rare occasions that the existence is recognised. Any success is described as a threat , and so on. A conspiracy of the self appointed "guardians" of that which it is right and proper for the ignorant public to know says much, but it says it of the liberal establishment and not of the BNP.
A democracy where you get to choose only between approved versions of the concencus, and other views are effectively silenced, is a travesty.
D.L. Stephens, York, England
As many others have mentioned, singling out 'ethnic' Britons will be difficult, theoretical and impractical. How many generations would be required, or would it be based on the number of drops of other blood?! However the evident tide of people rejecting recent/new immigration should be listened to.
I am not in favour of 'sending back home' anyone born in Britain or resident here for many years, regardless of their skin colour. I am in favour of freezing new immigration as soon as possible. This seems to be the only way of allowing current British citizens a chance to recuperate and making sure existing immigrants are included, pulled into society and helped to contribute.
Let's not be racist per se, but let's be selective and practical moving forward. I know just as many ethnically diverse Britons in favour of a truly Great Britain as I do ethnic whites.
If the BNP can confirm this type of non-racist practicalism, I will give them consideration.
Rachel , London,
If these comments are all the result of organised bnp members, how come the left is so disorganised? More likely is that the left is much less popular.
nathan, Southampton, England
I fear Gordon Browns left wing ideology, along with David Camerons pink conservative party- far more than Nick Griffins right wing politics .
Ex Tory voter
Joan H , Daventry , Northamptonshire
bnp will def be getting my vote. labour has let me down and the conservatives let me down the time before that. britain has in the last 10 years welcomed far too many people from abroad to come and live here and in our council homes. this has taken many homes from true brits who need them and has thus made a housing crisis amongst the white working classes!
charles fairbrass, dagenham, essex
I have been a BNP member for the last 5yrs. I have to smile when the main parties say 'we musn't give the BNP the oxygen of publisity', well they would say that wouldn't they. Not to worry, they've done it anyway. As a lady of a certain age, l have to say the BNP is more like a family than a party. Our members are Doctors, Accountants, Builders, Teachers, Housewives and Husbandsetc: What a great bunch of people. My husband and sons vote for them, as do our neighbours. Sorry to disappoint the left ,but l haven't met one Nazi, sorry.
Sylvia Howard, Epping Essex, UK
"The second factor is that the BNP has improved its organisation"
As the organised blitzing of this comment thread would suggest...
Thankfully, history tends to show that when the BNP get a shock election result, it galvanises the 99% of us who despise them and pity the blinkered principles they claim to stand for to remember that voting is a privileged duty and turn out next time. Which is, of course, why they've never managed to become a powerful political force in the UK. A few council seats across as many decades is a paltry record, especially when compared to their claims and boasts.
Let's hope journalists keep noting and exposing their regrettble, but miniscule, growth where it happens - we need to be kept on the ball.
I'm proud to live in a diverse, multicultural country. And really, most people are.
Emily, London, UK
Ten years of record immigration to Britain has produced virtually no economic benefits for the country, a parliamentary inquiry has found.
A House of Lords committee, which is due to report next Tuesday, will call into question Government claims that foreign workers add £6 billion each year to the wealth of the nation.
It is expected to say this must be balanced against the increase in population and their use of local services such as health and education, resulting in little benefit per head of the population.
"Our overall conclusion is that the economic benefits of net immigration to the resident population are small and close to zero in the long run," the report will say.
The findings of the Lords economics committee threaten to demolish the key argument made by ministers to justify the highest levels of immigration in the country's history.
david soams, London, UK
I find most of the comments posted sad, yet not unexpected. As a British born man of Indian parents I truely see myself as British, and proud to be so. I studied hard, became a dentist (yes 100% NHS!) work hard and pay high tax. If you wish to loose people like me (and I guess many would!) then continue along these lines. I would hate to leave Britain but if a majority wanted me to then I would.
An eye for an eye and we all end up blind. God bless!
DrPPatel, london, uk
The views expressed on this forum are depressing for a number of reasons. Firstly, it is strange that our governemnt will not fight the corner liberal immigration policy. The econonomic benifits of immigration are constantly ignored in favour of concerns over bizzare concerns over what it is to be "British". Why doesn't the government just fight the easy fight by highlighting the invaluable part that a young migrant community play to our economy? Secondly the idea that the BNP are somehow a world apart from mainstream politics is perhaps even more strange. They are trademark bandwaggon merchants, crawling back to the middle ground, just like any other mainstream party. Their policies are unworkable and have a racist twinge, but this does little to set them significantly apart from the mainstream. This article works to show the lack of polarity in modern politics, rather than highlight the benifits of a backward and essentially tedious political organisation.
Luke , London, UK
it did not go unnoticed by many, that nick griffin was prosecuted twice for daring to to suggest , at a private meeting, exactly what was on last weeks panorama.
nidge b, pudsey, england
Us British have taken over gentle fishing villages in Crete, Greece, Cyprus and all over parts of Europe and turned them into sickening seedy sex crazed boozed up party places.
Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
Joe, Bristol, england
The BNP are definitely getting my vote, and the vote of my two daughters. They are the only hope we have left.
Ian Dempsey, Ealing, England
So many positive comments for the British Nationalist Party, it's like reading their website. O happy days are here again, well may be not yet but the signs are that they are coming. Support Nationalism, support the BNP, support your country.
Mark Broome, Scunthorpe,
I find most of the comments posted sad, yet not unexpected. As a British born man of Indian parents I truely see myself as British, and proud to be so. I studied hard, became a dentist (yes 100% NHS!) work hard and pay high tax. If you wish to loose people like me (and I guess many would!) then continue along these lines. I would hate to leave Britain but if a majority wanted me to then I would.
An eye for an eye and we all end up blind. God bless!
DrPatel, london, uk
The BNP will be the best thing that can happen to this country! An end to the political tennis between the Labour and Tories and a real alternative looking to put Britain back on its feet.
You can hardly tell the Labour and Tories apart now, neither have a real leader with fresh and focused ideas. I think all will agree (regardless of colour, race or creed) that Britain is in a mess and it needs a new type of government to solve its massive problems. I am not racist in anyway, I travel the world and am working in Africa and have friends worldwide but can now see a end to the chaos in this country with the BNP!!
Daimon Hall, Eastbourne, UK
There was no BNP under a Conservative government.
Gary
Gary Morgan, Cannock,
Based on the all of the comments below I am full of happiness for the future of this country. It really does show you the level of support that the BNP actually have and that can only be a good thing.
I feel that the party have shed a some what bad image and are making great strives to increase it's popularity and policies.
I for one will be voting for them but I do not think that they are in Long Eaton in Nottingham?? Anyone confirm?
Pete Dossell, Nottingham,
I don't think I could vote for the BNP in a general election as I fear they would encourage racism.
I could quite happily vote BNP in the local elections to give the Lab/Con/Libs (one party, three organisations) a boot up the backside and make them start to show some leadership over my concerns.
Bunjo, Leicester, UK
I live in Croydon and can attest to it being a cess pit of late.
After about 8pm there are very few whites on the streets. Amazing.
I'm only staying with a relative and will soon take up a job in Tokyo, where I'll be making plans to locate to Singapore, who happen to keep a watchful eye on their migrants!
John, London,
I have been a labour voter all my life but can no longer even consider giving this party my vote again at the next local or general election.
I was brought up in London by Irish parents and I am discusted by the transformation London has undergone in the last 20 years due to immigration.
I would consider moving to Ireland but from what I here they are undergoing the same process of multiculturalism.
So I will be voting for Mr Griffin this time as something has to be done about this madness.
John, Watford, Hertfordshire
At long last the good people of Britain are waking up.The mainstream parties have nothing to offer us but corruption,incompetence and a complete lack of willingness to deal effectively with the root causes of our social ills,i;e the failed experiment of mass immigration,EU membership and over three decades of free market economic policy which have stripped our once great country of most of its resources.
The BNP is the only party with a commonsense alternative to the liblab conmen (and women).We need to halt immigration and get our nation working (and producing)again.It'll take a while but we'll get there,street by street and town by town.
TIM, BELFAST, NORTHERN IRELAND
Hitlers idea of a united europe is coming true thanks to the labour party,no war no fight nothing! just hand our country over to all who want it.what i need is a party who will look out for me and my own that is why when our local elections take place in may i will be voting for the bnp also they are the only party which opposes the political correct madness this country has changed into
dudley, county durham,
Why should some people be horrified if others choose to vote for the BNP ?
The mainstream political parties are so out of touch with the average man in the street they have no idea how their policies have impacted on communities throughout the UK . I will give very serious consideration to voting for the BNP and I have voted Labour all my life .
I don't agree with all the policies of the BNP but there is nobody else who even comes close to representing me and millions of others in this country who don't seem to matter .
Mark, Hull, Engalnd
I am gratefull for the Times to air the views of tired and dejected nation.
I have been a member of BNP for several years and see them as the only party that can save us from the madness of unrestricted immigration and the associated problems.
The rise of crime is what bothers me most, as a pensioner I see and read of the increase of violence and the lack of proper sentencing for those found guilty.
Only the BNP gives me the hope of a change in this once great country so I say to all like minded people at the next election please vote BNP.
Eric, Bishops Stortford, Herts
I am, and always will be a proud member of the BNP, I like their common sense policies, particularly on crime. People are dying on a daily basis because of this governments inability to tackle it, the sooner the BNP take control of this country the better. A quick word for Mr Brown there are "no go areas" in this country a good proportion of the electorate know it , seems strange to me your chief constables haven`t passed the information on.
Maurice Oatley, Rothley , Leicestershire
I'm voting BNP because both the Tories and Labour advocate "affirmative action", whereby white, English, men will be discriminated against in order that the labour market reflects current demographics.
Check out recent pronouncements by Boris Johnson and Harriet Harman if you don't beleive it. This is blatently racist and sexist and to try to introduce such a policy at this time is incredible.
London is drowning in foreigners because Labour has left our borders undefended for ten years and introduced legislation which prevents us from removing them even if our civil servants had the will.
This time I will use by vote to protest.
Steve, Balham,
I think it is a great thing that Britain is one of the few places in the world where the thought of a Nationlist party gaining power is seen as reprehensible by the vast majority of the voting public. Long may it last.
Paul, London,
I am a teacher in inner city Leeds.I too will be voting BNP,regardless of what my pathetic union advises. I see injustices meted out to white children at my high school,the verbal and physical assaults which go unpunished because minority parents raise the race card.I hear the demands of Muslim parents for separate classes for their children,I hear hatred for our armed forces expressed from Muslim children,obviously learned from their parents.I hate nobody,I am a lover of peace,but I fear for the future of this country. A democracy?I have to send this under an assumed name because I would be forced out of my job if my employers knew my identity.
peter, leeds, uk
The BNP is the only party to save our once great country. LibLabCon have lost the plot, they no longer look after the people that elected them. The big three have sold their souls to Europe, at the expense of the British public.
The Prime Minister (in waiting) Nick Griffin, and his party have the policies and more importantly, THE COURAGE, to tackle the problems which ruining our country. He definitely gets my vote.
Taff, Wales,
There is no way what so ever that the BNP will ever be more than a muddled and confused very small minority.
If it does become mainstream the blame will lie fairly and squarely with the current stock of politicans. They have, for various, often self preservation reasons, turned a blind eye to legimate complaints.
We really do have to ask ourseleves why is it that one of the most tollerant easy going nations in the world have developed such an aggresive frame of mind with regards to immigrants.
Peter Bolt, Redditch, UK
All those saying there is no such thing as an Indigenous Briton because 'we have all come from immigrants' well most of us Indigenous Brits had ancestors come here at the latest in 1066 around the same time as Maoris arrived in New Zealand from Polynesia, now would you rant on about them not being indigenous or 'immigrants' NO, because you have double standards and wouldn't dare say it to a maori because you might come across as 'Racist'. As for ancient immigrants to the UK
Vikings, Normans, Hugenouts, Anglo Saxons, Jutes,etc are ALL the same people coming at different centuries eg. Normans were the descendants of Vikings who had came to Northern France centuries earlier. They are all North West Europeans living on the fringes of the North Sea.
And the numbers were tiny even in 1500 the population was only 2 million, 500 years after the Normans came. We've had that number here in 20 yrs from africa, pakistan etc. You can't compare what has happened in the last 30 years to our past.
Jack, Northumberland, UK
Many people will vote for the BNP as they see it as the only way in which the silent majority will have a chance of having thier voices heard against the left biased media and the increasingly out of touch parlimentary elite. Its not so much a vote against a particular group but more of a protest aginst the gradual erosion of the culture and values of this country. People want to walk down the streets of the country they were born in, that their parents were born in and their fathers and grandfathers, brothers and uncles died to protect, and feel part of it rather than feeling like a stranger in their own country. It is this sense of abandonment that is driving people towards the far right parties.
Kris, Northants,
Typical BNP comment-
" I feel like a foreigner in my own country all these immigrants coming who I didn't ask for getting more rights than me. Right I'm moving to Australia" (where if you didn't get the irony indeed the indigenous people there are second class citizens).
raymond, the norf, uk
I did several weeks ago what I have never, ever done in my life before - I made a donation to a political party and that party was the BNP. Ok - it was only £50 and £50 that I can barely afford but I feel strongly that something has to be done to save this nation from the mess it is in. The depressing thing is - I can only see it getting worse. The politicians in Westminster are plainly corrupt and the political system itself is rotten to the core. Vote BNP? Definitely. The liberal / left-wing / PC elite in Westminster, the media and elsewhere in the country have every right to be worried. People are no longer ashamed of supporting parties like the BNP and are increasingly coming out and doing so. As Kitchener said "Your Country Needs You" and he could have added "Vote BNP".
Mark, London, UK
"The situation is worse than you can imagine because it's not just Britain it's all of Europe thatââ¬â¢s descending into chaos."
- why its so bad now isn't it. Europe was far better when we we shooting and bombing at each other in the early 20th Century. But at least Britain ruled the whole world so we felt important, right?
raymond, Liverpool, uk
The bnp is just another unionist party with membership and support made up mainly from England. Should they drop the british prefix in favour of becoming an English Nationalist Party?
Roger, Bristol, England
my mum is 65. She was born in Croydon during the war. She grew up in a street with a sense of community and history. They were proud to fly the union jack (I've seen the black and white photos) and people new each other.
She is now an ethnic and cultural minority in that area and the community she grew up in has long since gone; Thanks new labour and multiculturalists everywhere.
She has lived in Africa and been around the world. She is not an uneducated or hateful person and until recently voted LibDem. She admitted that at the last election, feeling rootless in her own country, she voted BNP.
Once again, thank you New Labour. It is all your fault.
gareth, monmouth,
For all the people commenting here going on about 'indigenous' folks and the BNP saving them... Who is 'indigenous' - most of the so-called 'indigenous' folks now are descendants of immigrants who came thousands of years ago... Immigration has always been there in Britain.
Immigration is a reality in today's integrated Europe and indeed in today's globalised world. It is just a loser's mentality to keep complaining about immigration and using it as a ruse to support a party like BNP. (How come British immigration into Australia, Dubai, Spain and the US, among other places, is not such a big issue?)
Polish people came here because they could find work (and deliver) that no other 'indigenous' folks were willing to or capable of doing... the same applies to people from other nations too... most of them are here legally to do work that needs to be done and there was no labour available to do that work here.
ST, Bristol,
Well said James Brown.
ST, Bristol,
All the other parties seem to be saying the same thing and only the BNP seem to speak up about things such as immigration and the problems it causes.
The media has helped increased membership and support for the BNP due to unfair coverage of the party.
Mr Griffin is well liked by many people and he speaks on their behalf. Why is it then that we never see him on programmes such as Newsnight and Question Time..?
John Roberts, Leicester,
The BNP is doing so well because vast numbers of 'ordinary' Britons have no-one else listening to them.
We can see, quite clearly, the 'un-Englishing' of our nation, not necessarily solely by immigrants but by overly intrusive government and silly policy making, with little or no regard for those of us who have grown up here and value the United Kingdom and it's core values.
I probably won't vote for the BNP because it would be a wasted vote, but perhaps the powers-that-be might do well to listen to the voters for a change.
David, St Albans, UK
This all sounds a bit déjà -vu from what happend in France at the 2001/2 elections. The Socialists, so used to being in the running with the now UMP party, were ousted by an angered French public, voting instead for Jean-Marie le Pen's Front National. It was obvious le Pen was never going to beat Chirac in the final vote, but the fact that his party was even considered, just showed the distaste the French were feeling for their country's politics at the time. It was a national 'warning' for the main parties to make changes or face the consequences. It seems we are seeing this again in Britain. How much longer will our politicians continue to treat the good British public like we're all made of money...until we are all living abroad?
Matthew, London,
I would vote for BNP so they could kick me (my family) out of this country. My parent's won't let me go alone. I am sick of Islamophobia in the UK... people are treating me like an alien. The historical respect of British people renowned for their generosity, fairness, greatness, kindness, moral values..etc are slowly degrading. I am afraid Great Britain is not so great anymore.
jayil, london, uk
My critique of the BNP is rather more detailed than my previous post, as i was curtailed by space considerations. Nevertheless, I want to clarify a little further and point out that some of the comment writers need to consult their critical thinking 101, namely, an argument must consider other viewpoints and alternatives. After that, it will no doubt be useful to ponder the basics of morality and ethics. Is it right to use skin colour as the basis of inclusion or exclusion? Is it right to discriminate on the basis of whether someone came into the country in the last 40 years? What about the claim that one-third of white english people (Source: Edward Rutherford, 'London') are descendant of immigrants, should they be expelled too? I doubt the BNP will think so. Do the BNP believe they have hit the magic formula of running a country? What about the last 2000 years of British/English history? was it all peace and bliss due to an absenc of significant ethnic minorities? Certainly not.
James Brown, London,
I'd vote for any party which is ANTI multiculturalism, ANTI pointless "diversity", ANTI mass immigration, PRO English people, culture and history, ANTI a United States of Europe, PRO lower taxes and had politicians who actually liked English people and the English nation more than foreign nations and people. That leaves who exactly?
Steve Jacks, London,
The wind of change is blowing throughout this land and whether we like it or not this growth of National Consciousness is a political fact.
We must all accept it as fact and our national policies must take account of it.
Tom Roberts, Manchester, U.K
I hope that the BNP do well at the upcoming elections. It's about time that the major parties started to take immigration and crime seriously. Perhaps a stronger BNP would nudge them in the right direction.
simon, battersea, london
The BNP accomodates much of what was formally centre-right Conservative territory. If they want to reclaim the votes, the Tories should reclaim the territory.
Franklin, London,
Mr Hames, please do not sneakily conflate the aims of UKIP, of which I am not a member, with those of the BNP, of which I could never be a member. You write: The typical UKIP and BNP supporters are by no means identical but there is a degree of overlap between them . This is the rhetoric of John Seldom Dummer, the Tory europhile MP.
I like the countries of Europe and its peoples, but I reject the grandiose pretensions of the EU superstate. I am distressed by the way the Government treats people from the Commonwealth shabbily, e.g. Gurkhas, plan to end the ancestry visa, whose ancestors defended us in two world wars and are British in the widest sense, while people from the EU have unrestricted access to the UK.
Britishness is something we should celebrate rather than the petty nationalisms of the English and Scots that devolution has engendered, and we should not let the BNP highjack the Union Jack and discredit our country.
wilson, London, UK
I am an immigrant to the UK, and I will sure as hell be voting for the BNP! In the seven years that I have been here I have seen the UK transformed into something not too pleasant â and its not a black white thing, there are gangs of Rumanians and Albanians killing each other and turning our streets into war zones â and this pathetic excuse for a government does?... nothing! The transport system is collapsing, the NHS is collapsing, schooling and education is collapsing, you truly get a feeling of being a citizen of Rome watching Nero fiddle!!!!
Hilton Gray, London, UK
At last - ordinary people are begining to wake up and speak out! If the BNP do get elected to a position of infuluence, I for one, will return to England from my present "exile" in france.
Richard , Carcassonne, France
Thankyou to the TIMES ONLINE for allowing all views on this website .
everyones view is valid in a Democracy .
I joined the BNP and am glad I did, and for the benefit of those that persistantly chant nazi, racist etc, the BNP respect ALL races including ours .
bert , taunton , somerset
Anyone who thinks the BNP are a legitimate political party should look at their website. If you still think they're not beyond the pale, then you're beyond the pale. They are no more a political party than the Nazis were a political party. These are crypto-fascists and unacceptable, and they know it.
They respond to the charge that they are a racist party by giving a list of twenty organizations (such as the Board of Deputies of British Jews) and saying, if we are racist, they are racist. None of these organizations, of course, would dream of calling itself a political party. But the BNP don't address that.
This article should have subjected the BNP to a more thorough analysis. Many of their opinions need to be exposed to the cold light of logic.
A vote for them is the electoral equivalent of a drunken rant.
However, if people are voting for them, the other parties must try to understand why.
Tom, London,
As an ex service man I vote BNP evey time. Our troops are coming home to a country that is not worthy of them. Labour has sold us down the river time and time again. People do not understand how controled we are in every way from immigration to human rights by Europe. Europe has ruined Britan and you can only blame the idiots who the people of this country voted in(labour) for letting them do it by signing away all our rights and laws. Europe owe us not the other way around. There are so many over seas born people in the uk now with the right to vote and all the sick,lame,and lazy(single multiple mums included in the last) who vote labour i fear that they have created a system that they can not be voted out. The media is so left wing in every way that the BNP do not get any news and are unable to reach working class people and are not allowed to by the state,if they do start getting there say, then watch this space. Vote BNP for Britan.
edward kahlow, Bromley, UK
British National Party = British Nazi Party. Beware!
margie , victoria, australia
BNP voters and the British public would do well to remember that the holy grail of the far right is respectability. The BNP are well aware that their image is very poor in the eyes of many, however well deserved that image is. They have contrived to promote a much 'nicer' image of themselves in the last 20 years. Its called PR. This is why the race angle has been 'played down'. It looks like their strategy is working well.
None of this means that their core beliefs have necessarily changed: it is just a matter or presentation. The BNP manifesto may well seem 'reasonable' to some, but I strongly suspect that it belies their true intentions. In my opinion, the core of the party retains the same neo-nazi sympathies it always did...its just more media-savvy these days.
Hitler tried to make his Nazis look respectable when it suited him too. There is a valuable lesson from history here - beware.
Rob Evans, Byfleet, Surrey
Who has the bavery to say : "I am not prepared to say to my children you must work hard at school/university and you will find good employment, provided a member of a ethnic minority does not want it"
Just who has the courage to say that ?
Not the mealy mouthed left I`ll wager
Peter bolt, Redditch, UK
As a Liberal Democrat remain that the few lured by `protest' rather than policy to vote for a `racist' party that is as illiberal as were the Nationalists whom voted for the heretic `Black Shirt' Oswald Moseley in the 1930`s.
I would appeal to the common sense in our London electorate to focus on delivery of the policies like those of Brian Paddick whom stands for diversity,humanity,integrity and fairness for all sections of our muli-faceted and talented population, in our Capital.
I campaigned in Alderton Ward, last in August 2007, to help reduce the majority of the BNP in a By-Election, in Loughton, Essex, where despite our campaign retained the Seat albeit with 5% less majority.
Our constitutional arrangements allow the BNP to put up candidates in all Elections.But this is only due to our ability to uphold pluralism and not seek to issue a moratorium on the rights of extreme viewpoints to be expressed in open and fair Elections.
I predict commonsense to prevail on May Ist.
Cllr.Patrick Smith, London E4 , UK
Regarding the anti -BNP meeting in Wales organised by the Communist Party of Wales and Searchlight , it should be noted that this event and the anti-BNP organisation which it seeks to establish is also being supported by the TORY PARTY! Hilarious - obviously the tories are worried about part of their core patriotic vote slipping away from them as the Con Party become ever more committed to and apparent in selling out the British people to the multi-nationals , the E.U ,the U.S and immigrants from just about everywhere.
The BNP is clearly not fascistic in it's principles or policies - no totalitarianism anywhere in their stated manifesto. The latest ONS figures suggest that the U.K birthrate is now a third non-native Brit. The consequences of this if unchecked will be to eventually make the native British a displaced people - the Tories and Labour remain silent on this which is all their doing.
The BNP is an evolving party and it can overcome some of it's past failings I think
D.Rowlands, Manchester,
With pen pushers being given the right to "punish" people by issuing fines - completely ignoring the 1689 Bill of Rights Act, and the traitorous acts of Bliar and Comrade Brown - the islamification of this country too, - the outright "theft" of public money by greedy MP's and their second and third homes - then you can't be in your right mind if you don't want it stopped. And who is going to stop it?? Not the "Main Stream Traitors who have all lost the plot - so yes - why not vote BNP - give 'em five years - and if we aren't on the way to how we used to be - vote them out.
JOHN, WAKEFIELD, ENGLAND
Sue, Birmingham, UK
Very good point. If only more people could see past their noses.
Alfred, Hastings, Sussex
I'd like to see an apology from leftist intellectuals for this state of affairs. The far right's rise coincides almost exactly with Labour's thoughtless promotion of immigration and PC rhetoric. The policies of the do-gooders - stragely enough, most of them white - are enitrely counterproductive to those they purport ot help. According to the IPSOS-MORI long term tracker polls, race relations today are now as bad as, well, the last time we had a Labour government in the 1970s.
AA, New York,
What are you scared the BNP would do? Go on a hysterical religious rampage and illegally invade sovereign countries? Oh, that was caring sharing Muslim hugging New Labour wasn't it. Remember Tony Blair and his beside Koran? To vote for any of the three main parties is absolute foolishness, the same people control the parties allowed popular covrage in the controlled press, that's why whoever you vote for, nothing seems to change. The BNP are an actual opposition party and are treated as such by the establishment.
Jane Peterson, Nottingham, England
I have to admit that because I feel the Conservative and Liberals are no longer genuine opposing parties. Sadly I feel that the UK has and is paying the price on one-way politics. In which they all appears to sing the same tune, with slight variations. More so, the UK is no longer a question of political parties, but more the haves and have notâs.
I'm fed-up with the constant inflow of migrants and the detrimental ways it has impacted upon society, which I see very little positive outcomes.
Based upon this issue and how people are suffering horrendous housing conditions, I will be voting BNP.
Thanks
Sue, Sussex,
All those sticking up for the BNP presumably support Nick Griffin's well-known belief , laid out in his 1997 pamphlet, "Who are the Mindbenders?" that a secret cabal of Jews controls the British media and his equally well-known and frequently recorded Holocaust denial - he believes David Irving is too gentle in his appraisal - which won him great admiration from the BNP rank and file (he describes it as the "holohoax"). For those attempting to excuse him by saying this is all ancient history, as the BNP itself tries to argue, Griffin told a reporter in April 2007 that he did now believe in the Holocaust - but only because âEuropean lawâ required him to do so. He also named his pet pigs ''Anne'" and "Frank" as an oh-so-amusing ''joke'' about the Jewish diarist. What a wit, eh?
This is the leader of the party described as "honest" and "representative of English rights and interests" ? - well yes, if you see Oswald Mosley as an English role model, I guess, though personally I don't.
Ruth , London, England
The people want a change from the cowardly Covernments of recent years.
The BNP have shown great courage and leadership against all odds, this is what the silent majority are waiting for.The BNP will have my support.
Charles, Stockport, England
The main parties are all stuck in a tar pit of PC and unless one of them has the will to climb out of it then the BNP will go from strength to strength, and good luck to them. They'll get my vote for my childrens sake.
Gareth, swansea, Great Britain
I used to vote Labour not any more, I do not trust any of the other partys, It is BNP for me, it is time for a change vote BNP at the next elections , as the ruling partys in power are corrupt, to bussy buying second proprtys and new fridges to give adam about Britain.
As for search light, what about searching out racist from other areas cleris,imams ect.....
And the police need to stop the no go areas, every race should beable to where they like.
John, Wakefield, Yorkshire /GB
No guarantees from ANY Political Party BUT do NOT believe in backing long time (60) year losers... Also do NOT believe that leopards change their spots... Therefore will NEVER again vote for Lib Lab or Con. Not much left, but if the BNP promise to scrape me from the bottom of the heap, thats good enough for me, Racist, Facist, Xenophobic or not....
Scot, New Town, UK
Not sure about this one - however, if the BNP, or any other party promise to clear the streets of the scum, who so frequently appear in the news for violent crime and murder of good, innocent people, to enforce the laws and to introduce more and harder and faster policing, then they will get many, many votes!
A shut down on new immigration may be a good idea, and the introduction of ID cards to 'flush out' those who are currently illegal, but you cannot surely try to re-patriate without consent?
Terry, Bagneres, France
Anyone else remember that the "Rivers of Blood" speech didn't cost Enoch his seat in the house - despite the fact that he had a significant immigrant vote in his Wolverhampton constituency? The BNP has a real chance because they talk action instead of appeasement. The real question is how will they perform in office. All politicians talk big before an election, when its the aftermath that really counts.
KR, Stockport,
Peter from London, you say that you that you are a highly qualifiled professional at that the BNP is not facist. Have you looked into the history of the BNP? Do you know about the history of the National Front, The links with facists groups, the criminal pasts (a lot of it racial criminality) of a lot of the members and candidates?
I think you would have done better to announce yourself as a considered highly qualififed professional and let others make the judgement on your intelligence because I thought that academia taught their students how to study, compile information and to sort between the wheat and chaff.
Clearly an important aspect of academia that has bypassed you.
kim, London,
The liblabcon have ignored the real power of this country, the silent majority,
There arogancy is disgusting. We demand leaders not rulers.
You are accounttable and we will decide your fate.
The BNP is a LEGAL political party who to this day cannot hold any public meetings because of intimidation and harassment in full view of the police and the press.
In spite of all the opposition I will again support them in anyway I can this time.
And I, a man of mixed English/ Jamaican extraction.
mike, lincoln, ENGLAND
As a member of the BNP, I am supposed to be a knuckle dragging, thug, but I am a working class, family man, who cares for the future of my Country, and my children.
I could not care less what colour a person is, as long as they are working and paying their way.
The establishment, orders me to accept a foreign culture, and accept losing mine.
While they have been spinning the "Multi-cultural lie" they have encouraged a revolution in the inigonious people of this country.
They have only themselves to blame for the mess they have created.
If there was any democracy in this country, lets see who is the first one brave enough to publish the recent Home Office report on Race Crimes 2000, to 2005.
I challenge anyone to do it.
TERENCE COPE, Stoke-on-Trent,
The people who comment on this article need to carefully rethink their support for the BNP. They are 'vile' and they are 'evil'. I dont' support any party is 'facist', that has the worst economic policy ever, the worst social policy, that doesn't allow black people to be British Citizens and wants reunite the republic of Ireland under British rule. They want to support the right for people to own hand guns and capital punishment, they don't want to give out aid to foreign countries and pull us out of the EU (easier said than done). They have no idea how to run a country and will ruin it from the bottom up. I don't give a damm if 'ordinary people' vote for the BNP. So did the people who voted for the Nazis. If you're worried about immigration, don't be gulible and believe every bloody thing that you read in the papers, vote for the tories who'll give you the hysteria without the racism. I've never heard such dispicable winging from the white middle class in years.
Sarah , Northern Ireland ,
Andy,
What did you think of the BNP's policy on immigration? Do you think it is right that the BNP want to only stop immigration from countries where the majority of the population are non-white and continue to allow immigration from countries where the majority of the population are white?
It's interesting how people's memories are short as regards the BNP too. Considerating that the man who makes the policies and who is effectively a dictator and has said he believes that power is the product of force rather than rational debate, is a convicted racist.
Gordon,
"new arrivals"? What about Australians, Irish, New Zealanders etc, do you think the BNP want to prevent those immigrants from entering the country?
Joe Chapman, Oxford, United Kingdom
These are worrying times. Normally the rise of the BNP is a clear sign to the mainstream parties to adopt a more firm stance on immigration and suitable adjust their policies - but I fear this Government is too arrogant to listen. We are facing a real threat of the BNP gaining political momentum - which is not good for the country in any way you look at it. Brown & his cronies needs to remember who he represents, before we go down that slippery slope to hysterical Nationalism
Daniel, London,
Scratch the veneer of respectability from the BNP and you will reveal its true identity. After all, in the nineties Nick Griffin wrote to the BBC and complained about the "preponderence" of Jewish presenters on the channel. He also keeps two pigs, one called "Anne" and the other "Frank." It is obvious he is an unreconstructured, yet carefully disguised, ant-semite. God help us all if he ever achieves real political power.
Ridley, Dubai, UAE
I am a traditional Tory voter. I am a university graduate, a professional with a house and family and much to lose. I am also am observer of reality and I am becoming afraid that the country my children will inherit will be a culturally fragmented, impoverished, over-governed and over-taxed failed state. Is it any wonder that I (amongst many) should wish to express my utter disgust at the cosy consensus that the main political parties offer?
I am certain that at the next general election, with the State falling apart at the seams, we will be fed a faked debate about paternity leave and the need to increase detention under terrorism charges from 24 days to 26 days and 45 minutes.
John, Peterborough,
Im totally sick to death of what has happened to my country, an open door for all undesirable immigrants, the cost of living going through the roof, closure of post offices, pregnant women unable to get in to hospital as they are clogged up with foreigners, crime rate and taxation at record levels and what do our wonderful mps do ?give millions away to India and China and say its good for the economy.
No wonder people are all so negative in todays society, I think that politicians take us all for being blind.
Lib/Lab/Con are all a bunch of corrupt sleeze mongers, the sooner the BNP are in power the better. When I started working in the 1970s the standerd of life was good but today I can understand why so many people are getting out of England for far flung places as Austrailia.
The majority of people want England back as it was, I know who I'm voting for, the only people who will save the country are the BNP.
Rick, Tenterden , Kent
Perhaps the reason why the three identical parties refuse to listen to anybody is because they are affraid of what we will find out in politics. That it's all just a big con for the Elite to get richer while forsaking the peoples concerns. Money talks in Government these days and capitalist sentiment runs deep.Maybe just maybe though the BNP can turn this corrupt system around before its too late?.
Robert, Warwickshire, UK
"UN Declaration of Indigenous Rights of Indigenous Peoples
As adopted by the General Assembly on 13th September 2007.
The Declaration establishes a universal framework of minimum standards for the survival, dignity, well-being and rights of the world's indigenous peoples. The Declaration addresses both individual and collective rights; cultural rights and identity; rights to education, health, employment, language, and others. It outlaws discrimination against indigenous peoples and promotes their full and effective participation in all matters that concern them. It also ensures their right to remain distinct and to pursue their own priorities in economic, social and cultural development.
Includes :
Article 7.2 "Indigenous peoples have the collective right to live in freedom, peace and security as distinct peoples"
Article 8.1 "Indigenous peoples and individuals have the right not to be subjected to forced assimilation or destruction of their culture."
Article 8.2 "States shall provide effective mechanisms for prevention of, and redress for:
(a) Any action which has the aim or effect of depriving them of their integrity as distinct peoples, or of their cultural values or ethnic identities;
(b) Any action which has the aim or effect of dispossessing them of their lands, territories or resources;
(d) Any form of forced assimilation or integration;
(e) Any form of propaganda directed against them
Further as the following shows the Liberal notion of the British population as successive waves of immigrants is simply a BIG LIE
"The genetic evidence shows that three quarters of our ancestors came to this corner of Europe as hunter-gatherers, between 15,000 and 7,500 years ago, after the melting of the ice caps but before the land broke away from the mainland and divided into islands."
http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/article_details.php?id=7817
james burrows, London, UK
I rather fear that the Labour and Conservative parties have been the best election agents the BNP could ever have.The present Government whines on that it 'listens to the people'but we all know this is a charade.The BNP knows voter marginalisation with the main parties will only work to its advantage and MP's laziness and complacency will continue to fuel this.I fear that the BNP will do very well in the May elections,I just hope they have the decency to thank Brown et al for their help.
Peter Jones, Birmingham, UK
It's true the BNP state the truth where other parties fail to. It's their intention that matters though.
A stable government paves the way for a civilised society. Too many times in history and angry and desperate nation has voted extremists into power.
The civil, tolerant, open minded nature of British society is what makes it a better place than other wealthy nations in the northern hemisphere.
Its too easy to agree with the facts they are providing. They are not publicising their insular and ignorant views at this significant time.
One sould consider what we really want for Britain, and which party can do that, is at least in the right direction, with the right intention.
Ian Dunham, Yorkshire,UK,
If the British National Party are growing strong, it is because the people are voting for them. I am a Christian, peace-loving member of the BNP, and I feel that we have been treated badly for many years by the main stream parties. Frankly I have had a gut full and it seems I am not alone. Being a member of The British National Party has restored a sense of hope and a rare sense of empowerment that no other political party can provide today in the UK. Power to the people! At long last.
Vincent, Hope. Wrexham, UK
What I think is most hilarious about the BNP's policy statement, is that they claim to want only to look after Britain and its 'indigenous' people (will everyone have to produce geneolgy records back to Viking times??) but they claim that in the long run they wish to welcome "Eire" - a very patronising term - back into the British Isles.
Why would they want to involve themselves in another independent country's politics? I'm sensing a beginning to British imperialism once again, a policy that destroyed half the world.
AnneMarie McCarthy, Cork,
The BNPers seem well organised here; they know how to use Google and always turn up en masse whenever their party is mentioned. They have just had a small cluster of respectable local by-election results, but their general trend for the last 18 months has been downwards. At the local elections last May, they claimed they would double their number of councillors nationwide - which would have meant a net increase of about 50. In the event they gained 10, but lost nine of their sitting councillors, so the net gain was only one. The reason their sitting councillors only rarely get re-elected is that they are generally totally useless. They get elected by promising the earth to frustrated angry voters, but few then turn up regularly to local council meetings, even fewer make any sort of contribution and a surprising number get done for social security fraud or assault during their terms of office. The voters twig that they are a waste of space and sling them out second time around.
Tom Wilde, London,
I would be interested to hear which of the policies in the BNP manifesto is so "evil" & "vile" ?? Having read the manifesto I tend to agree with much of what they say ..... I suspect these kind of comments stem from a desire not to be assocaited with a controversial party..anyway if a considerable number vote for them in may that is Democracy is it not
Andy Cooper, Oxford,
The time has come for the Media to stop villIfying the BNP - calling it Nazi, Fascist etc. It clearly is no such thing and commands the support of a significant number of ordinary people who are in no way are Nazi, Fascist, nor stupid. It is simply undemocratic to use such terms and not give the legal BNP any opportunity for it to have its arguments read or heard in the Media. This state of affairs begs the question 'Who are the real Fascists here.'
Incidentally, I am a highly qualified professional person that supports the BNP and would face loss of job and career were I to make my support public, though this is almost certainly contrary to European law and of course democracy. I consider my views to be in no way extreme, but as normal as preferring tea to coffee or chocolate cake to jam sponge.
Peter, London, UK
The BNP always do well under a Labour government. Reaction of the working-class to their perception of preferable treatment to new arrivals.
Gordon Hickley, Melbourne, Australia
Some people are very quick to use words such as "vile" or "evile". I wonder if these people have actually taken the time to read through the BNP manifesto, which they can do by visiting http://www.bnp.org.uk
Toby Johnson, Hastings,
No other party is prepared to stand up for the ordinary British people. The white working class have been stabbed in the back by the Labour Party and the Conservative Party are a bunch of mealy-mouthed cowards. Cameron refuses to say anything on the subject of immigration for fear of offending the liberal-biased BBC which would call him nasty. The BBC has broken its covenant with the British people by being a propaganda machine for liberals. Let's hope a massive vote for the BNP will shake them all up before it's too late.
James, Rickmansworth, GB
What is so surprising is that this particular gennie has taken so long to come out of the bottle.When it does it will be impossible to replace it.How long was it going to be before ordinary voters reacted against being force feed Political Correctness night and day?At elections only PC parties are promoted by the media.Folk in the past have been confined to having only the three PC paties to vote for.Where is the choice in that?Now people are begining to have a serious look at the BNP and don`t mind what they see.The truth is that its the PC parties(NU Lab,Nu Con,Nu Limp Dims) who look extremist not the BNP.You can call me a racist,you can call me anything you like,but you cannot call me a fool.Only a fool would seriously consider voting for more PC.I used to vote for these people(fool that I was) who are just corrupt cheats,liars and theives called Nu Labour and so called Conservatives.Never again I say.
Norman, Notts,
of course the growing popularity of the bnp has nothing to do with the flood of third world immigrants to britain over the past fifty years, does it mr hames. people are finally beginning to wake up. hope it's not too late. should have listened to good old enoch.
darren, christchurch, new zealand
i remember quite a few years ago,
feeling seedy as i shuffled out of the polling station looking at my feet after placing my vote against the BNP candidate.
i had heard the local labour mp blatantly lying about the numbers of asylum seekers in my town on national radio.
i had phoned in to ask him why there were more than double the number he quoted (and why they were all 20 something males) standing on my street corner at that very moment? he virtually accused me of lying? but i was stood in my window couting them...he was 200 miles away in london!
the difference this time?
i cant wait for may!
ill march into the polling booth,proud to place my cross against the brave BNP candidate.
everytime since that first vote the labour government have justified my initial decision more and more,
now im a member and more importantly a proud member knowing im trying to build a future for my children and can rest at night knowing my grandfathers generation didnt die in vain.
mr benn, grimsby, uk
Come on people, get it right, it's not about living in a multi cultural society anymore, now it's all about social cohesion.
So that's okay then, problem solved, no need for the BNP.
Running on Empty, Gerrards Cross, Leafy Bucks
The BNP is not a neo-fascist party any more than Ghandi and Mandela were fascists.
It stands up for the indiginous people of this country.
Anyone can see that the mass immigration, multiculturalism and community breakdown inspired by the main parties in order to fracture and divide our society so that the political "elite" can do what they want is what te BNP opposes. The BNP cares about the British people.
Who else does?
Certainly not the LibLAb Con parties.
If anyone wants to find out the truth about the BNP (rather than the tired whining of liberal posters here) then look at the award winning website, speak to its officers. They are a much more decent and honest bunch than any you will find in Westrminster.
And they stand up for YOU.
Geoff M, London, England
I don't know if the published responses to this article are representative of those received, but if they are, I fear for this country. By all means oppose unbridled immigration, and press for greater control on numbers - even the Labour Govt agrees with that. But to vote for a group like the BNP is morally wrong. However skilled their PR machine becomes, the BNP's views are based on those Little Englander racist attitudes which were so lampooned in Til Death Us Do Part. They are ignorant and ridiculous, but can still be dangerous.
Cathy, Bristol, UK
Why should it be a shock? The political establishment seem (and I include journalists) to be out of touch with the ordinary voter. More than out of touch, living on a different planet.
Carol, London UK,
I have not voted since this corrupt government came to power and the tories morphed into new labour clones. How can any rational person be surprised that the BNP are advancing in leaps and bounds. They are the only party honest enough to spell out how they will protect the interests of the British people.
John, Lincoln,
If Politicians and MEDIA ignore the BNP, then they will enable the BNP to promulgate specious statements and get away with stupid policies. They should subject the BNPâs statements and policies to the microscope.
Has Simone Clarke and Richard Barnbrook read and understood the BNP constitution?: By giving preference to the âindigenousâ people (i.e. whites); it would be legal to discriminate against their mixed race children in which school they can go to, which public places and spaces they allowed to be and which occupation they allowed to work-APARTHEID.
How exactly are the BNP going to âRestore our economy and land to British ownershipâ? If they selectively exclude foreign imports, then most likely those countries will retaliate, by excluding our exports.
pauline, luton,
For too long the Media lovies have tried to brainwash the country into thinking the multi-cultural dream would be just that, but the dream hasn't been the reality, it turned out to be a nightmare and thatâs not an exaggeration it really is hell living in Britain today despite how the Gov & they're friends in the media try to turn a blind eye. It sickens me to think of the country we have left for our children. The situation is worse than you can imagine because it's not just Britain it's all of Europe thatâs descending into chaos. Sometimes I think there is some Orwellian Master plan to destroy Europeâs identity so the puppet masters can take control. âItâs like watching a country busily building up itâs own funeral pyreâ. God was Enoch right & look what they did to the poor man.
Micky B, Lancs, GB
I'm always impressed at how the BNP are so actively organised on the internet.
It's a shame they're so evil, because otherwise they'd be a paragon for modern technocratic democracy.
Mark, Woking, UK
The BNP are a party of some vile policies and their officers, in power, are usually incapable of doing their job.
However, they do for the disaffected white working-class what Respect does for disaffected Muslims - it gives them a voice.
Dave, Slough,
Reason why BNP is getting more votes is because the present clear policy message and make it short.
Labour has no policy at all, just keeps jumping three times a day out of TV box with new (empty) ideas, which are forgotten five minutes after that.
Conservatives do not know what to offer to win so, they will increase and reduce taxes, stop and allow immigration, stop and appease Brussels, etc.
Lib-dem is a party just in name, they do not know what they stand for and it is about time they close the shop.
Just as a protest vote, BNP will take at least 10%+ across the country.
Savo, London, UK
An interesting item about the Party I am a member of.An especially interesting remark from a resident of Lewes which is a place where many residents have never travelled beyond the Chailey gap believing as they do that they will fall off the edge of the World should they go through the gap.
Lewes is the very example which the BNP seek to preserve for future generations otherwise in three generations by means of demographic alteration(immigration without controls) and education restriction(not educating and training English children) there will be a Govt which will rule through the many extra laws and thought police Blair and Brown etc have created these last ten years whilst permitting and encouraging mass immigration of all typed but especially unskilled and poor people from anywhere.
I canvassed in yapton and whilst receiving two rude replies but no violence receibved only thanks and encouragement from the many people I spoke to.
David Little, Worthing,Sussex, UK
Prepare for a shock 'Most Commented' article!
Jez W, Leeds,
looks like the BNP trolls have been busy...muhammed voting for the BNP?? I think its more likely that Hitler would vote for Ehud Olmert.
Jarrar , b'ham,
As a resident of Wellingborough mentioned in the article I know exactly why this has happened. Wellingborough has always had a high level of immigration for a small town - around 10% of the population is from an ethnic minority - and has had relatively good integration and few racial problems.
However, 1 in 4 houses in my street is now occupied by Eastern Europeans, my shop sells as much polish food as English, Estate agents boards and notices all round the town are in Polish and one shop in the centre even gives its staff announcements on the tannoy in Polish. I sat for a coffee in the cafe in the middle of the centre the other Saturday and I couldn't hear a single word of English being spoken.
Wellingborough has always been a tolerant and accepting town but this is too much even for us. As my best friend (who is Czech) says the last time there were this many foreigners in the Czech Republic it WAS an invasion.
The BNP suddenly seems the only acceptable option.
Sue, Wellingborough, UK
I would never have considered voting BNP until I read that the Communist Party of Wales and an obscure group called "Searchlight" are using the Welsh Assembly facillities in April to host a conference ordering people NOT to vote BNP. Although a life long Labour voter I have always supported the principles of democracy, yet here, in 2008, we have the Communists and their fellow travellers, people responsible for the Bolshevik Red Revolution and the worst atrocities of the twentieth century with millions killed in Russia and the Soviet Union, opposing our right to vote. That's when it dawned on me that maybe, just maybe, the conspiracy theories about Communism's role in the deliberate destruction of Western values and Western society by mass immigration and political correctness might be true. It seems that some of us have been blinded for years to what has been going on.
James
James Williams, Swansea, uk
The BNP is hardly a fascist party. This trope - raised again here in what is otherwise a fair article - really is very misleading.
Fascism is an Italian political philosophy drawn from the writings of d'Annunzio and given a statist form by Mussolini. The leadership of the BNP have about as much understanding of philosophy as a they do of human bio-diversity. Both exist. Understanding of both are necessary in the battle against liberalism and race-replacement. But the BNP shuns them, and is only interested in "bashing" Islam.
Also, it needs to be understood that the small clique of party leaders outside London have revealed their moral qualities in recent months, and the sight was unedifying. These are not people like you and I. But ...
The party they run is the ONLY representative of English ethnic rights and interests in an age when the English are expected to simply go away. For all the flaws, the BNP still has to be supported. We will get something better later, I hope.
Guessedworker, Lewes, England
It amazes me that the Government protect the ever more aggressive and dangerous Islamics whilst vilifying the BNP which simply applies the democratic process? They are an elected political party, and as part of democracy have the right to exist.
People are so disillusioned with the mainstream parties, that the BNP is an ever more interesting proposition. I would certainly give them my vote.
Will, Oxford, UK
The BNP's 'popularity', such as it may be, is more a symptom of the left failing to address why so many people in Britain feel completely disenfranchised. Thankfully there are alternatives like the Independent Working Class Association, but they are not very well established.
Paul, Coventry,
What is fascinating is how much the BNP's policies are becoming exciting to the mainstream. For example, its 'gas-up-and-go' approach to removing illegal migrants and terrorist-supporting migrants from the UK, is not only being carried out in a small way by Labour, but also makes a hell of a lot of sense as a future measure.
Most Brits do not want to see their country end up like the lawless hellhole portrayed in the film 'Children of Men'. The film showed what would happen to a UK which could not control its borders and how quickly it would be flooded with people from all over the world.
I think voting BNP makes a lot of sense.
Frank Fields, London,
This LibLabConEUIslam trick has decimated this one proud country in recent years.
I am PROUD to be British - and it's quite clear those in power regard decent hardworking people in this land as contemptible scum and would much rather allow all the detritus in to this land instead, paid for by guess who.
The BNP is the only party who genuinely cares for me, my wife, my kids' future.
The worm has finally turned, fantastic stuff!
Mike Bor, Welling, Kent,
Very good article!
But what you fail to mention is the huge number of minorities and immgrants are intending to vote for the BNP.
The mainstream parties have become so out of touch that they are simply blind to the reality on the ground and that is the immigrant population want and need a firm and fair party who will stop the uncontroled flood of third world immigration, this sounds farfetched doesnt it? No! The recent surge in immigration hurts longer resident immigrants the most and people are blind to that fact! The Big three are going to be shocked at the huge increase in immigrant support for the BNP come election time and that is a very good thing because it will be a massive wake up call to our blind and arrogant and deluded political class.
Stephanie King, Larnaca, Cyprus
The PC elite of British politics have shown their contempt for
the working classes.
Labours weasel words and slick justifications for
undermining the traditional British values which working
people like me hold dear, have made me and many
thousands of others B N P voters.
The B N P are open and honest about their intentions,
New Labour don't know the meaning of these words.
J Mckay, Wellington,
It used to be unthinkable to vote BNP but not any more. It is now unthinkable to vote Labour, for the party that has broken its promise to hold a referendum. And why vote for the Tories when they are just copying New Labour? I consider it perfectly respectable to vote for the BNP and predict that it will soon be a mainstream party.
Voter, Bolton, England
As a taxpayer & voter who has been utterly disenfranchised by the three main political parties for years I can almost see a logic beneath these BNP votes.
Voting for the BNP is utterly offensive in so many ways, but it is just about the only type of protest vote people have any more which Westminster politicians take notice of.
With over 40% of the electorate refusing to even bother voting any more, and the three main parties openly cock-fighting over just 3% of votes in marginal wards, an increase in BNP representation should be a warning to all of them to start re-engaging with real voters again.
A vote for the BNP may not be intended as a vote for fascism, but more as a electoral slap in the face to the main parties to begin offering a real choice of ideology once again.
Everyone in Westminster talks about political reform; the prospect of Mr Griffin's party being granted office is the voters' yellow card to the Westminster parties.
John, Bournemouth,
Why on earth is this surprising? The only surprise is that it has taken this long to manifest itself! When indigenous people with a long and proud history feel that their deep concerns are ignored by the major parties, and they see their homeland invaded by alien forces which are perceived to be given preferential treatment to boot, the resentment will spill over at election time. Obvious, innit?
Archie, Thrapston, England
"Prepare for a shock BNP victory" - what is so shocking?
Mike, Sydney,
The problem with extreme right wing parties is that whilst people recognise that some people will be worse off under them, they assume that it will be someone else. It's like the interests of disabled people - they're not a priority because most people don't think they'll ever become disabled. Likewise, most people don't think they'll ever become one of the discriminated-against minorities under an extremist government. That's fine until they become ill, or retire, or get made redundant, or want to marry someone of a different race, then they find out, but by then, it's too late.
Sue, Birmingham, UK
I do not support BNP, but I wish they will win every seat and then we will see how they will transform Britain. A lot of people I meet tell me they will vote BNP at the next election, may be it is me but it always comes out as some kind of veiled threat to kind of send everyone into some sort of panic. I vote for candidates instead of parties, but whenever the BNP puts forward a candidate I will surely vote for them.
Muhammad, Northamptonshire,
The existing parties are now so remote from the electorate that something has to be done to rescue the country. I know of life ong socialists who believe that the BNP are the only way to stop the rot. A strong BNP would along way to restoring popular control over British politics.
JohnW, Oldham,
The Left is utterly dedicated to eradicating any vestiges of European ethnonationalism. Opponents of immigration are routinely labeled âracistsâ or âNazisâ for advocating policies that are, in fact, the norm in the rest of the world. The response of the Left has been to entrench a culture of âpolitical correctnessâ in which expressions of ethnocentrism by Europeans are proscribed. Organizations such as the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Anti-Defamation League seek draconian penalties against such expressions by Europeansâand only Europeans.
AL, LONDON, UK
Mr "Muhammad, Northamptonshire" should be aware that this is the argument that voted Hitler into power.
Rosemary, Germany,
The reason why the BNP are starting to do so well is because of the awful, brutal reality of multicultural Britain.
Political correctness denies us a voice of dissent, but the one open to us is through the ballot box. Both mainstream parties are equaly weak and flaccid on mass immigration, only BNP seem to recognise the acuteness of the situation and are willing to deal with them.
I think it would help if more journalists [and politicians] were forced to experience what the common British person has to experience on the streets every day - it is a living nightmare where the indigenous British feel a stranger in their own country, where basic services are stretched and non-functional, where crime is predatory and at epidemic proportions, where costs soar but wages are reduced.
Maybe if this was the reality for both journalists and politicians then they would actually start to listen to the common person. Some chance!
Phil, Scunthorpe, England
As a new member of the BNP I was out with a leafleting team in a small industrial town in the East Midlands recently and it was almost like being in the vanguard of a liberating army. People, especially the working class, have a deep feeling of betrayal by Labour and the political establishment. Lots of little things that add up to show they are at the bottom of the pile and ignored until their votes are wanted. They are desperate for a real alternative - for a party that respects the English community and will do all it can to serve that community.
Jack, Nottingham, UK
I'll vote BNP if they promise to re-position the smoking ban as originally put forward in Labors' Manifesto. Am I a racist? No! but I'll vote for any party that that promises to leave me alone and let me live the life I have lived as a Native Briton these past 50 years and not the bullied state I live in now!
John, Southend, UK
The growth of the BNP in electoral support is inevitable. They are the only ones who stand up against the onslaught of mass immigration, Islamisation of the country, unfettered globalism and so forth. The native peoples of these islands have been subjected to continuous denial of their heritage and traditions. Free speech is under threat. What other party is there to turn to?
Tony, Chicago, USA
Maybe releasing convicted terrorists early from prison sentences,or maybe not holding promised refurendums on Europe. These issues may something to do with the support now being seen for BNP. May 2 wil see all the main stream parties shaking the heads blabbbing on how this is not right etc etc but sorry to say, this is the British silent majority again saying NUTS to Mr Brown and NU Labours policy of giving the British country away to he PC brigade.
peterandrew, Montreal, Canada
The third factor, that you don't mention is maybe the most important and perhaps the most obvious. It is that when all the main parties ignore issues of great concern to the average voter, whether or not such concern is "PC ", for example, immigration, then fringe parties will fill the gap.
Stan(expat), USA, USA
90% of the people who BNP vote for them because they are sick of the main parties.
The BNP get votes in areas where there are low populations of minorities because local British people do not want the area to become just like the areas many have recently moved from.
Richard, London, England