William Rees-Mogg
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After three centuries, this seems likely to be the year of Scotland’s revenge. In 1707 the last Scottish Parliament of the old order dissolved itself and Scottish sovereignty was transferred from Edinburgh to London.
In their hearts many Scots never accepted this English predominance. They rebelled in 1715 and 1745, but it was not until May of this year that they elected, with a plurality of only one seat, a Scottish government committed to Scottish independence. I admire Alex Salmond’s achievement as leader of the Scottish National Party.
In a month’s time in Lisbon, Gordon Brown, who is a Scottish Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, will go to the European summit to approve a treaty that will transfer many of the remaining powers of British sovereignty to the European Union.
Although the Scottish people were given two constitutional referendums to establish Scottish devolution, no such consideration will be given to the British people, if the Prime Minister can avoid it. Certainly, the English people, however much they might object to becoming one of the western provinces of a European empire, will be allowed no chance to decide the matter for themselves.
It is extraordinary how many Scots are involved in this end game of English independence. Tony Blair, the Prime Minister who signed the original European constitution and negotiated the new European treaty, comes from a Scottish family and went to Fettes, a school sometimes called the Eton of Scotland. Gordon Brown is himself a deeply Scottish personality: he was born and bred in the Scottish culture. It is not clear that this culture, admirable as it is, includes an understanding of the English. He has not heard the magic of Camelot.
The leader of the Liberal Democrats, Sir Menzies Campbell, is another admirable Scot, Glasgow-educated, with a Fife seat. Even the Minister for Europe, Jim Murphy, is another Scot.
The immediate argument concerns the issue of a European referendum. All three parties at the 2005 general election promised to hold a referendum on the European constitutional treaty. France and the Netherlands duly held referendums and voted against the treaty. The treaty has subsequently been renegotiated and cosmetic changes have been made – the sinister old tart of a treaty has changed the colour of her lipstick, but she is still a witch.
The Prime Minister pretends this is no longer a constitutional treaty, but it still contains 40 substantial constitutional changes, and they are the same as are in the original constitutional treaty itself. It is a fraud to pretend that the new treaty does not have the same significance as the treaty that the French and Dutch both voted down.
It would be a breach of confidence for a Government elected on a promise to hold a referendum now not to have one. If the treaty becomes law, we shall be living in a different country: we shall have lost our independence in 2007, as Scotland did in 1707.
I am sympathetic to the principle of independence. I have never doubted that the existence of the United Kingdom was a benefit to England, that it helped the English to achieve great things.
Nor have I ever doubted that the British helped to save the world from tyranny in the Napoleonic wars, and in the two world wars of the 20th century. The United Kingdom has, on balance, been a force for good in the world. Yet the Scottish, whom I also admire, should have an unfettered right to regain their independence if they so wish. That is a matter for the whole Scottish people.
I certainly do not believe that the issue of Scottish independence is a matter for me, or for the English generally. However much we may admire the Scots, we do not have the right to take their national decisions on independence away from them. The English are not Scottish: we cannot really understand Scottish nationalism.
I am sure that Gordon Brown is a British patriot: no doubt we would share many sympathies and loyalties which spring from that. Yet I do not believe that Mr Brown is an English nationalist any more than I am a Scottish nationalist. He has failed to measure the reality of English nationalism.
The British Empire was itself too distant and detached about the nationalism of its constituent peoples. Two of our greatest mistakes were made in the creation of the United Kingdom itself. They were the abolition of the Scottish Parliament in 1707 and of the Irish Parliament in 1798. England persuaded or bribed both of those parliaments to legislate themselves out of existence. In both countries there were vigorous protests: in Ireland there was the 1798 Rebellion, followed by two centuries of simmering revolt.
The lesson of English law and history is that independence does not belong to the monarch, or even to the parliament; it belongs to the people. That is why a national referendum is the only right way to decide whether national independence should be transferred to a foreign power, or should be reclaimed.
No one now doubts that it was right to hold referendums on the issue of Scottish and Welsh devolution. It is astonishing that anyone doubts that a European treaty that transfers extensive constitutional powers to the European Union, with an open-ended clause to extend those powers, cannot be legitimately ratified without a referendum.
Some people, perhaps the English people in particular, are worried by English nationalism. I am not. I think that a healthy nationalism is the shield of liberty. We know what the English people want. The latest poll for Great Britain shows that 60 per cent want a referendum on a European treaty: only 16 per cent are opposed.
I do not think that Gordon Brown is English, or that he understands that English nationalism is just as attached to independence as Scottish. He cannot afford, even as a politician, to go back on his manifesto promise of a referendum. That could destroy him and his party. All sound politics is based on trust.

William Rees-Mogg has had a distinguished career with The Times and The Sunday Times. He was Deputy Editor of The Sunday Times before becoming Editor of The Times in 1967, a position he held until 1981. He was made a life peer in 1988. Since 1992 he has been a columnist for The Times, writing on a variety of issues. He has also been chairman of the Broadcast Standards Council and British Arts Council
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If you are as keen to be independent as you say you are,please,please do something about it!This Scot would love you all the more!!
Probably the Welsh,the Irish too!
I realise that there are many parts of your country which suffer from London rule, the South East forever portrays itself as the money maker,while the rest of us sit cap in hand waiting for crumbs from the table.
Please,please start rumbling south of the border and demand attention!
Remember that politicians are there to serve the public and not themselves!
Disgruntled Dorothy, Glasgow, Scotland
As a British Scot I agreed with much of the piece. However an entrenched mindset was revealed " the existence of the United Kingdom helped the English (rather than the British) to achieve great things.".
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I am old enough to remember when Scot Nats. were figures of fun in Scotland and most Scots would have put âBritishâ as their nationality on official documents while being secure in their own heritage. But nationalism is no recent phenomenon among the English; it has been their historical default position for three centuries so it ill becomes them to be huffy now
Jan Stewart, Pinner, Middlesex
William Rees-Mogg's article articulated the English case very well.
I for one am sure that there is a hidden agenda when it comes to debating the 'West Lothian' question, as the English are obviously governed by the Scots..
It would appear that most English people agree with Scottish independence, but purely as a means to us getting ours.
By the same token, were we not to be given the promised referendum on the proposed 'constitution' it will provoke a backlash that will haunt Brown as Iraq has come to haunt Blair.
Amryform, Littlehampton, UK
As a Scot living in England, I say roll on the day that England finally realises that England and Britain are not synonyms. The greatest disaster in British history is the suppression of purely English history and tradition to the dictates of empire-building. The looming disaster is that the English are going to sleep-walk into an empire that isn't theirs and from which they will never be able to depart - for evidence look into the real reasons for the US Civil War; slavery was a bandwagon, not an underlying cause.
The greatest single issue in this episode of history is the blatant disregard for the people by our so-called democratic government. I agree with an earlier commentator - get on the web site and sign the petition. Lobby tour local MP by email and telephone. Let the politicians know that, in a democracy, we pay them to do what we say - their job is to make sure the civil servants don't rob us blind. Unless they were elected under false pretences of course.
KR, Stockport,
Loss of our Nation is too Valuable to risk on a Silly vote, we need to tear up the 1972 Treaty and Just Leave the EU...NOW...
Will the Germans stop selling us their cars, will the Bulgarians stop selling us their wine....Will the Spaniarrs say we can't sit on their Beachesany more....It's all a con...Just Leave, I wouold not trust such an important Iue to a vote...Get Out...we are a Great (if declining nation)....we can be so again....the British People just need to get back to our roots....as an Industrious, Innovative Nation....without the Hinderance of Mass Mass Soviet Style Beaurocracy....
Adrian Peirson, Luton, Beds
In the same way the English don't like being ruled by the Scots. We Cornish don't like being ruled by the English. If the UK is to be devolved than any English parliament should have it laws possibly vetoed by the Cornish Stannary Parliament in sovreignty for the Cornish people. Fair is fair old boy.
Terence, St Ives, Kernow
Mr Moorhouse - you chose, I assume, to be governed by the French did you not?
What is wrong about the rest of us wanting a similar choice, rather than having foreign control foisted upon us?
I McNeice, Craigavon,
England is a much more multicultural country than scotland and a new reborn english cultural awareness should take account of this. As for Glen beckett who still says the English confuse english identity for british identity.... i agree how many times have we heard the british forces esp. in WW2 (in which a disproportionate number of scots fought) we here refered to as English ie England stood alone in 1940 - quite insulting really. It seems the confusion of identity was quite selective. When English soccer fans invariably cause riots aroad then we are all british all of a sudden.
douglas mcdonnell, auckland, NZ
Our consitution is based on parliamentary sovereignty which means that no one decision taken by parliament is written in stone. All of the "constitutional" changes made in the last 30 years, such as membership of the EU and devolution can be revoked. What force would a referendum of the EU constitution really have. We base the practice of our government on what works. If the proposed changes to the EU rules do not work for us - let's review it when we know this. Of course, all this talk of loss of sovereignty is premised on preferred withdrawal from the Union by those that advocate this view. Give me an alternative to British membership (make that English membership as the Scots and Welsh are fervent supporters) and euro phobes might sound less negative. As regards English nationalism. The concept is based on what we are NOT, unlike the Scots and Welsh. Let them have it. I don't want another layer of government telling me what to do.
DC, London,
Please give us, the English our independance so that we can wave our little flags, celebrate St. Georges day without the guilt of the Union or the Empire.
William Lyons, Liverpool,
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