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A gay man was rejected for a post as a youth worker because of his sexual lifestyle, not his sexual orientation, a Church of England bishop told an employment tribunal yesterday.
The Right Rev Anthony Priddis, the Bishop of Hereford, said that John Reaney did not get the job because he had admitted having had sex outside marriage.
The Bishop denied unlawfully discriminating against Mr Reaney, saying that he had been complying with the teachings of the Church.
He said that he told Mr Reaney that any person in a sexual relationship outside marriage, whether they were heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual or transgender, would have been rejected for the post.
“Such sexuality in itself was not an issue, but Mr Reaney’s lifestyle had the potential to impact on the spiritual, moral and ethical leadership within the diocese,” he said yesterday.
He added that his views on sex outside marriage were backed by the Archbishop of Canterbury, the General Synod, the national assembly of the Church of England, and the Lambeth Conference.
Mr Reaney, 41, from Llandud-no, North Wales, claims that being openly gay cost him the job. His claim for unlawful discrimination against the Hereford Diocesan Board of Finance is being backed by the gay rights group Stonewall.
Under equality legislation introduced in 2003, it is illegal to discriminate against people because of their sexual orientation, although organised religions were given exemptions. The hearing is believed to be the first test case of how it applies to the Church of England.
The tribunal in Cardiff was told that Mr Reaney had been offered the job last July after an interview before a panel of eight. The Bishop, 59, was told that he had indicated on his form that he was homosexual.
Mr Reaney was called in for a discussion, during which it emerged that he had recently ended a five-year homosexual relationship.
The Bishop said that, although Mr Reaney undertook not to start a new gay relationship, he felt that he was not emotionally in a position to be making such a promise.
He told the tribunal: “The end of a five-year relationship leads to a lot of grieving and it can take much time for someone to recover. It would not have been right for me to take an undertaking of his head that his heart could not keep. It remains my judgment that Mr Reaney had not met the standards required. It was not a risk I was prepared to take.”
He said that Mr Reaney did not seem overwrought, humiliated or distressed when he was told that his application was being turned down.
The tribunal was told that the job was not offered to anyone else. Bishop Priddis said that, because of the diocese’s limited finances, even if Mr Reaney had been appointed he might have been made redundant “sooner rather than later”.
The Bishop denied that he had breached the diocese’s equal opportunities policy. He said: “The Church’s teaching draws distinction between sexual orientation and practice and lifestyle. We didn’t discriminate against Mr Reaney on the grounds of sexuality. Had we done so we wouldn’t have called him for an interview.
“What is at issue is the lifestyle, practice and sexual behaviour, whether the applicant is homosexual, heterosexual or transsexual.”
The Bishop added that his diocese had ordained a transsexual woman as a priest. In September 2005 Sarah Jones, who was a man for 29 years, was described by Bishop Priddis as a “superb candidate” for the post.
The hearing continues.
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John Reaney was my youth worker when I was a teenager and he always tried to impose strong Christian morals on our group. He was everything the church could want in a youth leader and his sexuality never did, or should, become an issue. I think the attitude of the Bishop and most of the comments on here are very narrow minded and don't even seem to consider for one moment whether or not he would have been a strong, Christian influence in the youth group. I fear the church and the children have missed out as it is sadly inevitable that the church will not be forced to back down.
Carolyn Salter, Wellingborough, England
When civil partnership became law, we were told that, "marriage is the ideal". Distinction exists in that civil partnership cannot be dissolved on the grounds of adultery. As a christian, it will never be acceptable that the two are the same, neither will legislation change my view. Can a relationship, where adultery is lawful and multiple partners condoned be deemed to be stable for the purposes of child care ? Is it reasonable in a situation where people, wish to spend their own money on adherance to the values or making known their faith, should have that faith undermined by government edict ? Should Christian teachers be compelled to say that marriage is of the same value as same sex partnerships, when clearly the government does not agree with it's own regulation ?
Perhaps the time has come when Christians will have to choose between the righteousness of God and the folly of man and without seeking to injure or marginalise people, simply to say, "I will not".
David Percy, Rochdale,
Anthony Priddis appears to be acting within the teachings of the church but this is the Church of England. The Bible clearly states that homosexuality is wrong and it was once illegal in this country to be a homosexual. At the heart of this matter is the issue of sexuality and it is disingenuous of the bishop to suggest otherwise. The Church of England has tied itself in knots over the issue of homosexuality and one is left with the inevitable conclusion that were Mr Reaney in a Civil Partnership, now recognised in law, he would be entitled to practise sodomy with his partner and be fit for the post of youth worker. You cannot be married to someone of the same sex so the bishop's argument holds no credibility whatsoever!
Stephen Blowers, Bournemouth, England
The government seems to believe that equality is important for all except those who hold and practice deeply held beliefs.
The Equality Law provides equality for all types of sexuality but does not allow christians to believe and practise their faith.
The Bishop of Hereford was made a bishop before the government decided to make it illegal for him to follow and preach his beliefs.
This country did very well as a christian country. What harm did it suffer when it acknowledged God as its Lord? We seem to be suffering plenty now that we feel we can do without Him.
Jock & Mamie Freitag, Stockton , Cleveland
There is a delicate balance to be struck between freedom of religion/religious organisations to employ whomsoever they choose and the welfare of society at large, e.g. anti-discrimination. Christian organisations bring immense benefit to British society, employing many youth workers, care workers and others - at their own expense. It is wrong to suggest that they should be asked to provide such services not only at financial expense but also at the expense of their conscience. This is not ultimately a question of human rights, after all there are many other youthwork posts available to Mr Reaney. This is a question of freedom of choice and is as much a legal issue as a theological one.
Anna Buchanan, Cardiff, Wales
This is bizarre! Why are we eroding the very thing that has made us so attractive to others around the world from the beginning of civilisation - our Christians principles? This country has benefitted and is still benefitting from some profound principles such as faithfulness in all we do, honesty and integrity taught and practiced in the Christian faith. Yet, what is being good and needed in a country that is fast losing its identity is what is being cast out. What lind of legacy are we leaving for our children? After we have done this we turn around and cringe at how promiscuous, unfaithful and disrespectful they have become. I have worked amongst young people who are Christians and its their belief is what is largely allowing them to make sensible decisions/ choices. It break my heart to hear members of the government profess to be Christians yet make the decisions they do. Christians are not cowards. Stop declaring this if you are not prepared to uphold the principles.
Fed up, London,
Well, you're from Texas, Philip, you would!
No-one is arbitrarily forcing you to believe anything against your conscience. I am sure homosexual people would wish no employment opportunity be closed to you just because you are a Catholic. So why should jobs be denied others just because they are gay, and your petty little concience might thus get offended if they were employed?
You can believe what you like in your own home and church, but that doesn't give you the right to practise your prejudices and discrimination in the wider public sphere.
rgrey, glasgow, scotland
Dear Sir/Ma'am
The Archbishop of Canterbury, the General Synod, the national assembly of the Church of England, and the Lambeth Conference, are not definitive or normative for Christianity, only the Bible sets its genetic code, being absolutely supreme in all matters of conduct, belief and doctrine, and regarding sexual sin, the Bible makes no distinction between sexual sin of either the homosexual or heterosexual varieties. Sin is sin is sin is sin is...............and the wages of sin is death. Sin is really bad news, and only Christianity has good news for sinners, they can be forgiven by the the God revealed in the printed words of the Bible, and supremely revealed in the Living Word of God, Jesus Christ, and I look forward to hearing the Bishop saying so.
Barry Holroyd, Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
The reference to Mr Reaney's human rights causes me to ask the question, what about the human rights of Christians? Our beliefs are constantly being rubbished. The Bishop has made it clear that the issue was not Mr Reaney's sexuality but his lifestyle. The church wouldn't employ a single person who was sleeping around, nor a married person known to be committing adultery. The bible is clear that sexual acts outside a married relationship is fornication. Fornication is sin. Those who pursue it, with no sign of repentance have no place on the staff of a church.
James Hall, Worcester, UK
Dear Sir/Ma'am
The Archbishop of Canterbury, the General Synod, the national assembly of the Church of England, and the Lambeth Conference, are not definitive or normative for Christianity, only the Bible is absolutely supreme in all matters of conduct, belief and doctrine, and in referring to sexual sin, the Bible makes no distinction between sexual sin of either the homosexual or heterosexual varieties. Sin is sin is sin is sin is......................and the wages of sin is death. Sin really is bad news, and only Christianity has good news for sinners, they can be forgiven by the God we worship, and I look forward to hearing the Bishop saying so.
Barry Holroyd, Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
In my country, a person who isn't upright is rejected even in government positions. For example, a practicing homosexual cannot become an agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
So if some people on account of their immoral sexual acts can be rejected for government positions, then, surely religions should have the same rights to reject such people.
One more thing, people should always have the right to state what he believes is moral and immoral. I became a Catholic because I agreed with the Catholic positions. So when I defend Catholic positions, I do it because my conscience dictates it, and not simply because the Catholic Church teaches it. I believe everyone should respect my conscience just as I respect the conscience of my neighbor. No one should arbitrarily force me to believe their way if I think their way is immoral. Yes, I believe the practice of homosexual acts is evil.
Philip, Mathis, USA-Texas