Ruth Gledhill - Religion Correspondent
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Britain's leading Roman Catholic monk has accused campaigning atheist Richard Dawkins of being stuck in the 19th century. Father Timothy Radcliffe OP, former worldwide head of the Dominican religious order, said the biggest threat facing Christianity today was not atheism, but the loss of hope among the young. He said the declining birth rate in the West was down to youngsters not wanting to bring children into a world without hope.
He said the atheists had their time in the 19th century, but had little appeal now. "People have seen in in many parts of the world, particularly China and the Soviet Union, what the effects are of trying to live in a world without God."
The biggest task facing the Christian Church today was not to counter the arguments of Professor Dawkins and his fellows, but to restore hope to the young, he said.
Father Radcliffe, aged 62, is expected to be among those considered as a successor to the Archbishop of Westminster, Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor, when he retires. An announcement that Cardinal Murphy-O'Connor, who is 80 this summer, is stepping down could come early next year.
The Oxford-based monk was speaking to The Times after being awarded the £15,000 Michael Ramsey Prize for theological writing by the Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, at the Christian Resources Exhibition in Esher, Surrey this morning.
Father Radcliffe, now working as an itinerant preacher, said he would enjoy holding the cheque in his hands for about ten seconds, before passing it over to the bursar of his religious house. It was enough to support the work of two monks for two years, he said.
He was awarded the prize for his book, What is the Point of Being a Christian? published two years ago.
Referring to recent assaults on the Christian faith from philosophers, scientists and others such as AC Grayling, Christopher Hitchens and Professor Dawkins, he said: "I do not think we should be the slightest bit alarmed. It would be a great mistake to cast ourselves in the role of some persecuted group. When people criticise Christianity, we should welcome this as an opportunity to engage in debate."
He said the greatest challenge facing Christianity today was a loss of hope. "It is tempting for people to see no way forward. The two main stories the young encounter are the 'war on terror' and ecological disaster. Faced with that, they may well inclined to wonder what future they have. They wonder what future their children will have. So it is very important that as Christians, we are seen to believe in the future of humanity."
The prize is sponsored by the Archbishop's Lambeth Fund in partnership with the religious publishers SPCK and commemorates Dr Ramsey, who was Archbishop from 1961-1974.
The same conference heard how churches in Britain are beginning to welcome prostitutes into their midst, rather than condemning them as sinners.
Churches leaders are increasingly seeing the issue of prostitution as one of "justice" rather than "morality", according to the leading organisation working in the field.
But research shows that clergy still need educating on how to respond when prostitutes turn up in the congregations seeking spiritual solace.
Mark Wakeling, of the National Christian Alliance on Prostitution, compared the issue to that of slavery. Mr Wakeling said: "The Church has in the past been perceived as a judgemental institution. But in reality the Church is engaging with this issue."
He noted that from the early 12th century, the Church in England owned and collected rent from 18 legal brothels in Southwark.
A survey carried out by the alliance of 18 churches in east London found that just six churches were welcoming to prostitutes. The remaining two-thirds found their presence in the congregation theatening and worrying.
Following the Ipswich murders, a further 15 towns and cities are to be surveyed by the Alliance in a joint project with the Salvation Army to discover the full extent and work out ways for the churces to do more to help.
About 80,000 people are thought to be working in the sex industry in Britain, with many of these also
involved in substance abuse, mostly of heroin and crack cocaine. Already, there are 44 church projects in 24 towns and cities, working to help prostitutes and others in the sex industry.
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All seem to have a really inaccurate feel for the American Bible Belt... This area is more religious than the coasts. What does this mean? We go to church on Sundays. We aren't "militant". We don't march and chant. In the midwest ,it is considered bad manners to aggressively speak of religious views
Shannon, Indiana, USA
The commonality between atheism and communism, national socialism and fascism is their "blind" faith in the so-called "goodness" of man. In reality, they are all, as C.S. Lewis said, "Men without chests".
Dale, Hood River, USA
I not sure what kind of arrogance or misconception leads someone to believe their unfounded superstitions represent the existence of "hope". All of our best standards of freedom and democracy and scientific advance were condemmed time after time by Mr. Radcliff's own organisation.
Tabor Finnders, Dublin, Ireland
The point is the 1st century ideas of Father Radcliffe have grown up over the past 2,000 years. They have evolved. Dawkin's Atheism is nothing more then the recycled Atheism of the 19th century & if anything it has devolved.
Jim Scott , Queens, USA
I am fascinated that the militant atheist and the Fundamentalist Christian seem to have the same tyrannical God. I am also aware that many church people are scientists - some eminent in their respective fields like John Polkinghorn. Groups such as the Quakers have promoted science and continue to so
Gerard Guiton, Melbourne, Australia
Father Radcliffe claims that 'atheists had their time in the 19th century, but had little appeal now'. Atheists truly capture the Zeitgeist of the new century. Their books sell hugely; their lectures are packed. Traditional churches empty and few wish to become priests or to enter holy orders
Geoffrey Lake, Carbost, Scotland
It is always a surprise to me how vehemently the atheist expresses his or her view. My experience in life has been that when someone responds so negatively it is because their point of view is seriously challenged.
The experience of a Christian cannot be disputed, it is his experience. It is everyone's free will to say they cannot or will not believe in the Christian God of Love but not to deny the experience of another.
It seems to take up an inordinate amount of atheist energy and usually anger in the effort. Why is this?
What is it that drives Mr Dawkins and others to spend so much time on this?. Perhaps his need to be proved wrong. There is an inherent need in man to know, to experience unconditional Love. I believe this is the search that all men are making negatively and positively and I pray that we will all eventually have the experience of this love that God is pouring out at this time of Easter through his son Jesus Christ. It is available to anyone who wants it.
Marianne Wilson, Reading , UK
I can hardly see how being an atheist is 19th century when the advances made in the 20th century with relativity and quantum physics show even less evidence of the existence of God and the scientific forum has widely accepted evolution by natural selection. Currently in mainstream science there is no position for God. Anyone who reads this should check out "God: The Failed Hypothesis by Victor Stenger"
It is also laughable how this man equates godlessness with communism and attributes their problems to not believing in an imaginary friend. How droll...
Alogy, London, UK
Why are so many Christian apologetics still reiterating the same tired old fallacious comparison between atheism and communism?
Is it, perhaps, that they are so used to repeating the same 2000-year-old nonsense over and over regardless of reality or new evidence, that they have forgotten how to have a rational debate anymore?
Justin Megawarne, Denver, CO, USA
Atheists only seem to have the ability to mock and ridicule Christians. Are you afraid to engage in civilised debate? Or is that you do not have any rational arguments? I believe both.
Can I suggest you debate Timothy Radcliffe OP? I need a good belly laugh. You would not last 5 minutes.
MGH, Syney, Australia
"That monk is soooo 1st Century"
Joshua, London, UK
How interesting. Most of the atheists who commented on this article sounded like a school child's argument.
""Britain's leading Roman Catholic monk..."
Do we get to hear from Britain's leading flat-earther as well?"
I rather think we did, Minerva. Well done.
Martin, Telford, UK
If Atheists are 'stuck' in the 19th Century then believers are defenately stuck in the 1st Century. If the world was controlled by believers of the main faiths then it would be a very bleak place indeed. Galileo was branded a heretic for centuries for telling the truth. A truth the church didn't like. Imagine a world without contraceptives, the pope tells millions of people its wrong and evil yet they have save millions of lives from disease. If the theologians had their way we would never have discovered how the human body works through disection. We would be praying and getting blessed and told to have faith. I would rather have a pain killer than a bible.
Konrad, Belfast, Northern Ireland
"Britain's leading Roman Catholic monk..."
Do we get to hear from Britain's leading flat-earther as well?
Minerva, Germany,
Father Radcliffe is right. Dawkin's campaigning is an irrelevance when compared with the decline of morality and decency in western society. His thesis has been adequately dismissed by John Cornwell's "Darwins Angel".
Unfortuneately, he is part of a historical fanatical trend, with some very dubious 20th century antecedants, and there are others such as Phillip Pullman who have the zeal to promote their confused and limited world frame upon all of us. Dawkins is a biologist, and there are as many ways of knowing the complexity of the world as there are ways of knowing. All have equal justification, and biology has no god given supremacy or privilage to express the truth. Those of us who were born after the war - the spoilt and media savvy baby boomers, have been responsible for complete moral cowardice and a real abandonment of civilised values in the face of the enormous threats to the freedoms we profess to treasure so much. The real battle is being fought in the inner city.
John Nutt, Taunton, Somerset
Did not the Lord say to the woman taken in adultery (after saying" let him who is pure and sinless cast the first stone")"Go they way, and sin no more"? What would Mr Wakeling say, "carry on"?
Christian, London, England
Ruth Gledhill as an expert on religion should get it right. Timothy Radcliffe OP is a friar not a monk. The Order of Preachers (aka Domincans) , Carmelites and the Franciscans are orders of friars. Carthusians, Benedictines and Cistercians are monks. Jesuits, Redemptorists, Salvatorians etc. are clerks regular.
Tom, Cambridge,
If Richard Dawkins' ideas are from the 19th century, what century are Father Radcliffe's from? Seems the professor is about nine centuries ahead of the monk.
Terry Sanderson, London, UK