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An ultra-violent video game set in Manchester Cathedral has led Church leaders to threaten legal action against the makers of the "sick" game unless they remove it from sale immediately and donate to the diocese's work with young people.
The ultimatum is made in a letter, seen by Times Online, from the The Very Rev Rogers Govender, on behalf of the Dean and Canons of Manchester Cathedral, to the entertainment giant Sony. It comes after three people were shot in the city in the last 72 hours. Sony used the cathedral as the backdrop to the gunfight in the PlayStation 3 game 'Resistance:The Fall of Man'.
Dean Govender met church officials and drew up a letter of demands which ends "We are currently seeking the advice of our lawyers in this matter and reserve our legal position in relation to the same".
The Church demands that Sony, who allegedly did not seek permission for use images of the cathedral, makes a "substantial donation" to be used in the cathedral's youth work in "resisting the culture of gun crime and other forms of violence in our society".
The Church also calls for the immediate withdrawal of the game and "furthermore, that Sony do not re-issue it without modifying the section of the game to remove the cathedral interior," the letter says.
Dean Govender brands the unapproved use of images of the cathedral as “virtual desecration” after the firm set one of its top-selling games inside the place of worship.
The letter emphasises that the Church is taking advice from lawyers and urges Sony to contact them for a meeting so there can be a "mutually satisfactory conclusion to this matter".
The new PlayStation 3 game, which has sold more than one million copies, sees a virtual shoot-out between rival gunmen with hundreds killed during a battle inside the cathedral. Church officials have described Sony’s use of the building as sick and sacrilegious.
Sony did not ask for permission to use the cathedral according to the Church. David Marshall, spokesman for Manchester Cathedral said the church had received many e-mails in support of its stance against the multinational.
David Wilson, a Sony spokesman, told The Times: “It is game-created footage, it is not video or photography. It is entertainment, like Doctor Who or any other science fiction. It is not based on reality at all. Throughout the whole process we have sought permission where necessary.”
In a further statement the Japanese multinational said they believed they had the permission necessary to create the game and that they were aware of the concerns raised by the cathedral authorities, "We naturally take the concerns very seriously," the statement said. "We are now in contact with the cathedral authorities and will be dealing with them directly.”
Manchester has suffered from a plague of gun violence in recent years with three shootings taking place within the last 72 hours. The row began on Friday when church leaders were told the inside of the church was used as a backdrop for one section of the game where soldiers take part in a virtual shoot-out with aliens trying to take over the planet.
Players adopt the role of an American soldier fighting the alien invaders in cities across the UK. A spokesman for Sony said no other religious buildings featured in the game. The computer game shows scenes of bloody violence where players must shoot dead a host of enemies using weapons such as a Rossmore 236 close-quarter combat shotgun, the L23 fareye sniper rifle and an XR-005 Hailstorm chaingun. Graphic scenes of virtual violence from the game were shown on the video-sharing website YouTube.
Dean Govender said the footage on the internet "dismayed" cathedral officials beyond belief. “We are shocked to see a place of worship, prayer, learning and heritage being presented to the youth of today as a location where guns can be fired," he said.
"Every year we invite hundreds of teenagers to come and see the cathedral so that they might appreciate an alternative to the violence that they experience in their daily lives. It is a shame to have a game like this undermining such important work."
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I think that the problem lies not with video games promoting violence, but with the people who are mentally unstable enough to be encouraged to go and assault people after a few hours on grand theft auto, or to go and rob a bank after playing kane and lynch.
Alistair Coombes, Ringwood, Hampshire
heh heh heh...funny. The church is just using this as an excuse to grab cash. I mean, come on?? Do you expect commanders and soldiers to avoid religous establishments in a war? Its time for gamers to stand up to religious zealots abusing their religious immunity. Boycott the church of England until they remove their money hungry claims and idiotic case.
Philip, Hong Kong, Singapore
keith...are you claiming that sony are terrorists that want to do you harm? ive been trying to think of a word to describe how stupid that is, but havent been able to come up with one strong enough. Also, if you think it reasonable for people of faith to boycott Sony due to this offence, i would like to call on everyone offended by the various misdeeds of organized religion to boycott their local place of worship.
john, toronto, canada
I become increasingly exasperated when people blame video games for crime. I don't understand how escapism into a virtual world that is no different to reading a book, watching a film, tv etc gains so much negative press. I'd say the game is no more violent than 'Silence of the Lambs' or 'The Terminator'.
I suppose road developers will want to sue Sony next for using them in the game too! Bravo to Neil from Coalville. I am 26 played since C64 days.
The big bug bear is that there are irresponsible parents who buy the 15/18 cert rated games for their children. Thats where the real problem lies!!!
Paul, Guernsey,
the zealots have their own game based on fantasy that they like to play there. pity for them that most young people can tell the difference between reality and some fanciful invented storyline. hence the empty pews.
does the church think that if aliens actually invaded they would take religious sensibilities into account and limit the annihilation to the streets and government buildings? I think that's a little unrealistic myself. perhaps they should design their own game where the church is defended by a heroic priest calling down bolts of lightning through the power of prayer? although more likely they would simply send a letter of gentle admonishment to the mothership with a polite request to desist.
jem, london, uk
People who don't know what they're talking about shouldn't try to bring legal punishment down on businesses. The game in question is an alternate history shooter, the enemies are aliens, and the shooting within the church is in an effort to keep the aliens from overrunning humanity. There is no manner in which Resistance: Fall of Man supports or condones, let alone encourages, real life shootings.
Not only that, but the game was made, published, released, and played long before these shootings occurred, and is in no way sick or depraved. Regardless of our religious sentiments, setting one stage in the defense of the human race within a church should offend nobody.
Do these people honestly believe that violence is spurred by a video game in which one must shoot aliens--no matter their form--who are intent on murdering the player and every other human being? And do they think there is any legal basis for targeting one video game alone when other media show the same things?
Michelle, State College, PA
I have full confidence that no one in the church or the press played the game or even understands the storyline and just uses this supposed "moral outrage" to cover up their own greed by asking for donations (with a substantial kickback).
Mike, London,
when it comes to fantasy and the chances that it will cause people to go out an act violently in the real world, it would be hard to find a bigger offender than religion.
presumably, we should all think about suing.
jem, london, uk
I can see why the Church would be worried about a game involving aliens, given it exists to draw desperate people into its own fantasy world. Unfortunately for the Church, most young people can tell the difference between reality and a far-fetched storyline, hence the empty pews.
I wonder whether the Dean thinks that, in the event aliens did attack, they would take care not to offend religious sensibilities and would keep the fighting outside? I think not.
jem, london, uk
An ultra violent videogame? I'm going to assume the writer here did not play the game, and has neglected to research their article. Regardless, this is an absolute joke and a mockery of our society. The game is not real, it is a 'recreation' of reality, and is not in any way, shape or form insulting the Church.
Of course, this is what I have come to expect from the Church of England, so there we go. What's new?
Ross Joseph, Newton Aycliffe,
What is the problem with a GAME set in a real life location? I see no issue with this in any way, apart from the fact that its a cgi representation of the cathedral? Its about fighting aliens nearly 70yrs ago. Now forgive me if Im wrong, but I dont think this is based on reality!
As for Keiths comment above, you want people to no longer buy products from one of the biggest electronic equipment suppliers in the world over one game and you want the police to investigate? Thats really not going to happen is it, if it does then every film and game made would have to be investigated. We wouldn't be sat here reading this as the internet would be banned because of the amount of inappropriate material available.
I'm 28, played video games for the last 14 yrs and never once had the urge to kill some one after playing a game. People need to stop moving the blame for societys problems on video games. Maybe if there was more discipline in childrens lives we would not have this problem!
Neil, Coalville, Leicestershire
They do it in movies all the time. What is the difference?
S, Twinsburg, OH
I wonder how game designers could expect no complaints on a misused(computer simulated religious) image or structure given today's sensitivities? Was there a reason to select a Christian structure, or was it mere chance? If so, can anyone calculate confidence levels that the structure would be a Christian one by chance?
Cyprinius, Indialantic, Fl
I will not buy an further Sony products until this is resolved with an apology and ask people of faith who are offended by this around the world to join me in finding alternative providers of electrical household appliances and games.
Is this a way in which people who wish to do us harm are getting around the new UK anti-terrorism incitement criminal laws? Please will the Police investigate?
Keith, London , England