Ruth Gledhill, Religion Correspondent of The Times
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The Pope was expected to challenge King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia about the severe restrictions on religious freedom for non-Muslims at an historic audience at the Vatican today.
Pope Benedict XVI is understood to be concerned about the rights of Christians in Saudi Arabia and about Muslim-Christian relations. The two states do not have formal diplomatic relations.
This morning's meeting – the first visit by a Saudi monarch to the Vatican – came a little more than a year after the Pope's controversial Regensburg address when he quoted a 14th-century Byzantine emperor who said that Muhammad had brought only “evil and inhuman” things.
The Pope later expressed regret for any offence his words had caused and a series of subsequent initiatives, including a high-profile visit to Turkey, have led to a rapprochement between the Roman Catholic Church and the Muslim world.
The King — known officially as Custodian of the Sacred Mosques, a title which refers to Mecca and Medina — is regarded as a cautious reformer. He is on the third leg of a European tour, after London and Geneva, and will travel next to Germany and Turkey. About one million Catholics live in Saudi Arabia. Most are immigrant workers from countries such as the Philippines and they suffer severe restrictions on practising their faith. Although permitted to worship in private, public worship is banned along with non-Muslim items of dress such as crucifixes.
This year, the US State Department's annual report on religious freedoms noted some improvement in “specific areas” in Saudi Arabia but said “overall government policies continue to place severe restrictions on religious freedom”.
The report mentioned discrimination against non-Muslims. Other Muslims whose practices vary from the conservative Saudi Wahhabism are also discriminated against.
“Non-Muslims and Muslims who do not adhere to the Government's interpretation of Islam continued to face significant political, economic, legal, social, and religious discrimination,” the report said.
“Charges of harassment, abuse, and even killings at the hands of the muttawa 0religious police) continued to surface. Saudi textbooks continued to contain statements of intolerance.”
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To 'Abda': Some of us were watching Channel 4 Dispatches programme "Undercover Mosques" on Jan 13, 2007 and distinctly heard the iman of the Green Lane Mosque, Birmingham say, of your "choice" of Moslem apparel that: "By the age of 10 it becomes obligation on us to force her to wear it. If she doesn't, we beat her." Some of us also know that the historical reason for it is that Mahomet, your warlord founder, used it to distinguish between those women he captured in battle and used as his 'wives' (to be covered) and those he used as his sex slaves (uncovered). Some of us know the Muslim Brotherhood uses it to assert Sharia law and the further Islamisation of societies. Some of us know mosques pay Moslem families to force their daughters to wear it and threaten non-Moslem women living in predominantly Moslem 'enclaves' to wear it to keep from being harrassed. Some of us are very knowledgeable about Islam. We are readers of THE TIMES. "da'wa" (prosyletising) won't work here.
Caro, london,
I have certain contradictory thoughts about this issue and would welcome some polite input;
I like niqaab and am glad that the law of this country allows me to wear it if I want, when I want. I sometimes wear religious jewellery of an Islamic nature.
I understand the law allows other religions the right to wear their religious stuff if they want.
My inner contradiction is that I feel that even in this country I only want to see people wearing the Islamic stuff and would prefer other religions to be discrete and I applaud the Saudi stance on religious matters. This is despite having the desire for religious tolerance and freedom. I stand up for other faiths rights if I feel they are being violated even if they are opposed to mine. I keep my contradictictory thoughts to myself for the most part as I don't really understand them. I think it is because I would like everybody to be a Muslim as I believe that the world would be a better place if they were and so we would all be happy.
abda, bournemouth, dorset
I hope can persuade that religious zealot into doing the right thing and giving the freedom that the Saudis yearn.
Felix Turner, Penang, Malaysia
Monsters' ball, fancy dress optional.
Andrew Milner, Yokohama, Japan
I believe in an eye for an eye like the muslims.I believe in when in rome do as the romans,also in fairness,If christians can't have a church in saudia arabia or any other muslim country,why the hell are they allowed and demand mosques and schools in the west.when they allow us churches then i would allow them mosques here.It's not a question of religion ,it's about fairness,which dosn't exit in the middle east.
mario, london, uk