Ruth Gledhill, Religion Correspondent
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Religious people are more positive towards homosexual people than is claimed by conservative faith leaders, a report out today says.
According to academics at Leeds University, faith leaders are failing to reflect what the people in the pews really think about gays.
The report Love Thy Neighbour, commissioned by the gay rights lobby group Stonewall, says that Jewish, Muslim, Hindu and Christian believers are “significantly more moderate” in their views on homosexuality than is often alleged on their behalf.
The research has been published deliberately to coincide with the Lambeth Conference, the 10-yearly meeting of 650 Anglican bishops from around the world, at Canterbury, Kent. About 230 conservative and traditionalist bishops have boycotted the conference because of the Anglican Communion's move in a pro-gay liberal direction, marked by the 2003 consecration in the US of the Right Rev Gene Robinson, the openly gay bishop of New Hampshire.
In spite of attempts by the Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, to keep homosexuality as low down the agenda as possible, the subject is likely to dominate the conference. Bishop Robinson is not invited to the conference but is in Canterbury attending fringe events. On Wednesday, the US lobby group Integrity will release a video showing real-life stories of African gay Christians.
The report says: “When the perceived tension between faith and sexual orientation is discussed in public, the agenda often becomes so dominated by aggression and sensationalism that levels of respect between faith communities and gay communities are overlooked.”
Ben Summerskill, the Stonewall chief executive, said: “Witnessing the tragic divisions in the Church of England demonstrated at this week's Lambeth Conference, it's telling that so many people of faith say they actually live, work and socialise with lesbian and gay people, and that significantly reduces negative ideas about difference.
“Many Christians, Jews, Muslims and Hindus are clearly markedly more moderate that we are often allowed to believe. The stark conclusion to draw when it comes to religion and homosexuality is that it may be time to start listening to the voices of the many people of faith in Britain which have until now not been heard enough.”
Those interviewed for the report said that new legal protections for lesbian and gay people, including civil partnerships, have had a “civilising effect” on British society. The increased acceptance of gay people on a national and political level has also had a positive impact on attitudes at a local level, they said.
Last year a YouGov survey of 2,000 people published by Stonewall found that 84 per cent of people who identified as religious disagreed with the statement “homosexuality is morally unacceptable in all circumstances”. Interviewees suggested that organisations working towards community cohesion should make more effort to listen to all people of faith, not just religious leaders.
Catherine, 58, a Christian, told researchers: “It isn't, in my opinion, the Church's role to say to gays and lesbians: ‘You're not welcome, you can't serve God and you can't be a Christian.' That just doesn't make any sense to me at all.”
Nadish, 60, a Hindu, said: “Everybody has got the right to live life in his own way ... so if somebody is lesbian or homosexual, it's entirely up to them.”
Husna, 24, a Muslim, said: “I've come across some gay people and I think I have changed my opinion. I have worked with these people. They're really, really nice people ... they are people.”
Janet, 20, Jewish, said: “One gay man is from a very orthodox religious family and his family are fine with it and, you know, it was a bit of gossip, like people did talk about it, but now everyone's fine with it. And they've got boyfriends and it's fine.”
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It is true the Bible comments on homosexuality in Leviticus and the church cannot deny it; but the Bible also tells us to kill our neighbours if they work on the Sabbath and condones selling children into slavery and the Church cannot deny that but they do not practise it. This is cherry picking.
Keith, Rayleigh, England
Those that claim to be "orthodox" need to get "the mote out of their own eye." The retired Bishop of West Tennessee, Alex Dickson, is now married to a twice divorced woman who was not divorced on the grounds of adultery either time.The Book of Matthew tells us that Alex Dickson is living in adultery
sam cole, Memphis, TN., USA
But there are many, many millions of 'ordinary' people who deeply believe that homosexual behaviour is contrary to God's Word.
We believe the Scriptures are plain and clear on the subject. The Scriptures need no interpretation to suit the proclivities of a dying Western church.
PeterR, Australia,
Why is it that biblical proscriptions regarding homosexuality are upheld in all their literal rigour, while others (such as Christ's unambiguous veto of heterosexual divorce) are quietly waived? Divorcees are remarried in your Churches and cohabiting couples are welcome at your altars. Hypocrites!
Paul Bryant, London, UK
The bishops know two things. They know what the Bible says about homosexuality; they know they can't get round what it says, and, God knows, they've tried. It doesn't really matter what Anglicans in English pews think. It's what people around the world, Hindu, Muslim, Baptist and Anglican think.
Jim Guest, G. Manchester,
"Allowing ancient text(s) to justify shaming any minority is just wrong."
Yet the Biblical text can't reasonably be used to justify homophobia. In fact it's not at all clear what the relatively few relevant Biblical texts actually mean iin the context of our modern understanding of homosexuality.
andrew holden, oxford, uk
We should probably spend about as much time commenting on sexual matters as Jesus did, i.e. practically none at all.
Frank Upton, Solihull,
Our Faith leaders have bent so far they have broken the only thing they had left. Their Belief.
Mark, Gateshead, uk
Wake up., and move into in the real world...... Are we still living in the stone age!!!!!
Paul Blunden, Copenhagen , Denmark
Hey Ian, the study was commissioned by a gay rights group. What result would you expect them to find? More propoganda from the homosexual lobby, I see.
Ivory, Boston, USA
The point being made by the study and the article creates an incorrect "either/or" dichotomy based on the politicizing of this issue. At the center of Christian teaching is love; that was the central message of Jesus. It does not follow that loving the sinner means altering doctrine to accept sin.
Jonathan, Cleveland, US
Liberal society is always going to create liberal views. The problem is God's law is clear on homosexuality and the fact is, it is simply unacceptable. However confusion will remain on this issue.
Joseph, Rugby,
My boyfriend of 10 years is from a large Muslim family. Every single one of them is perfectly fine with the fact that we are a couple. There are MANY Muslims here in the UK nothing like the way the press tends to portray them. We need to stop seeing labels/categories and start seeing people.
James, Cardiff, UK
1) Opinion polls do not define the truth or otherwise of any particular belief.
2) The issue isn' that of homosexuality - rather 'homosexual practice'.
Andrew brown, derby, uk
Stonewall - a government funded gay lobby group, so what's new? For some genuine honest thinking on homosexuality:
http://www.danacentre.org.uk/events/2006/07/18/155
linked to the Science Museum, all secular pro gay thinkers
Fati, Dalston, UK
Bob Ericson,
Insofar as is indicated by the published statements of Stonewall (UK), Changing Attitude (UK) and Integrity (USA), or Bp. Robinson for that matter, it appears that none of the foregoing would agree with your implied prioritization.
Keith Toepfer, Bothell, Washington, USA
Ms. Gledhill,
First, as I would think you must be aware, the issue is not about inclination (by whatever term you wish to use) as about "manner of life." Second, again surely known to you, the church is not a democracy, but a kingdom, belonging to, and ruled by, the Lord. What matter surveys?
Keith Toepfer, Bothell, Washington, USA
Third, this is not about accepting in the church those who suffer from same sex attraction, it is about the ordination of those who do not wish to amend an aspect of their lives that is described by Roman Church, rightly in my opinion, as "profoundly disordered."
Keith Toepfer, Bothell, Washington, USA
Nuts!
Right is right, and wrong is wrong, and compromise only results in the firey pits of hell.
The bishops of the church have led the church astray - Jerimiah 23.
Richard, Cheneyville, LA, USA
The issue's not whether gay people are 'nice' or not, but whether such a lifestyle is what the Creator intended for us.
The YouGov survey needed to ask not 'are you religious?' and, 'do you think gay sex is acceptable?', but 'do you believe the Bible is a true record of God's will for our lives?'
Chris Nel, Ripon, England
It is staggering that in 2008, there are so many bloody-minded people holding onto their view of a literal translation of the bible. Born heterosexual or not, it is not a "choice" that one makes, it's our fundamental makeup. Allowing ancient text(s) to justify shaming any minority is just wrong.
Peter, Liverpool, England
The church is to be the moral light of the world for society even when taking a moral stand is not popular.
The church should not descend into the decadence and depravity of society, and become blind leading the blind into a ditch.
Jon Do, Fayetteville, TN, USA
Always wondered if Jesus was gay. He wasn't married in a culture where for a man to be 30 and never married was almost unknown. And there that group of male friends he surrounded himself with. The disciple that Jesus loved best. Now do you regret destroying the Gospel according to Philip?"
Andrew Milner, Karuizawa, Japan
Hypocricy is key here. St Paul did outlaw same sex but Jesus accepted the existence of Gays(Mat 19) and In the letter to Philipians their acceptance is on record. The relationship between Man and God is personal and no person must judge right and wrong but God. LOVE is the only God's primary Command
Joseph , South Harrow,
Strange. Very strange.Gay, Homosexual, lesbien, the very openly minded, extremely minded, worldly minded, all sprts of sexual participants - I have no problem with people. I love people. We are all equal but dont get it twisted, When its time to lift up Holy hands, will you be able to ?
Dele, forfar, UK
Religious leaders are surely supposed to reflect the teachings of their faith, not the views of their congregation.
And it's surely just coincidence that the study 'reflects' the view of its sponsor.
David Richards, London, UK
Since it is commissioned by Stonewall would you really expect the report to read otherwise?
Len, Shipley,
Most people who are interested in spiritual matters would say that there are far more pressing matters for faith leaders (and followers) to address than sexual orientation (or whether women can serve the Church - they have done so in some denominations for many years, or creationism etc).
Bob Ericson, Tewkesbury, Glos,
Spot on. Ordinary religious people are far more welcoming than their leaders, where hypocrisy rulesi in their un-godly quest for power over their religious flock..
barry, London, UK
Absolutely correct and us 'ordinary' people out here always knew that. It is the great and good in their ivory towers, who never ask us anything, who are the out of touch brigade.
ian payne, walsall,