Ruth Gledhill, Religion Correspondent
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Anglicans stand in the middle of “one of the most severe challenges” to have faced the Church in history, the Archbishop of Canterbury said last night.
Dr Rowan Williams, addressing 650 bishops at the ten-yearly Lambeth Conference, at the University of Kent in Canterbury, set out his vision for the Church. He said that there had never been a golden age for Anglicans and the Church because its very foundation was divided by dispute.
He said that the Church was at a “deeply significant turning point” and that the controversies over same-sex blessings and gay consecrations demanded a new approach.
Advocating the path of council and covenant, meaning the agreement of a unifying set of doctrines and principles to help to prevent discord, Dr Williams said: “We cannot ignore the fact that what is seen to be a new doctrine and policy about same-sex relations, one that is not the same as that of the vast majority at the last Lambeth Conference, is causing pain and perplexity.”
The Archbishop was speaking as the bishops emerged from three days of retreat and a service featuring Buddhist chants and grass-skirted Melanesian dancers in Canterbury Cathedral.
Before his talk a liberal bishop from Sri Lanka struck a lighthearted note when he suggested that a way to settle their theological differences could be a game of cricket. The Right Rev Duleep de Chickera, Bishop of Colombo, said: “Sri Lanka is a land of five world religions: Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, Christianity and cricket. Those of us who organised this conference planned an afternoon aside for cricket, and a game called baseball for the uninitiated.”
Today the bishops, who are reduced in number because 230 boycotted the event, will begin discussing their difficulties in indaba groups, based on a Zulu model of talk-based conflict resolution. When the conference ends in two weeks Dr Williams will produce a document to help bishops to promote unity when they return to the 38 provinces around the world. The Archbishop countered criticisms that the indaba process was an attempt to avoid tough decisions and would have the effect of replacing substance with process.
“To such people, I’d simply say, ‘How effective have the old methods really been?’. Earlier Lambeth Conferences issued weighty reports and passed scores of resolutions,” he said. “If you look at the resolutions that have been passed since 1867, you’ll find many of them, on really important subjects, have never been acted on.”
Dr Williams said: “We need to get beyond the reciprocal impatience that shows itself in the ways in which both liberals and traditionalists are ready – almost eager at times, it appears – to assume that the other is not actually listening to Jesus.
“We also know that how we think about that unity is itself affected by the urgency of the calls on our compassion and imagination; some sorts of division undoubtedly will seem a luxury in the face of certain challenges – as many Christians in Germany found when confronted by Hitler. We have to think and pray hard about what the essentials really are.”
The sermon marked the official start of the conference and confirmed the liberal direction of the Church. Bishop de Chickera, who was preaching at the personal invitation of the Archbishop of Canterbury, freely admitted the reality of the current divisions over gay consecrations and same-sex blessings. “The reality is that we are a wounded Anglican Communion,” he said. “Some of us are not here and that is an indication that all is not well.”
Speaking quietly but with passionate insistence, the slightly built bishop said: “Certainly the crisis is complex. It is not a crisis that can be resolved instantly and the journey ahead is a long and arduous one.”
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I can thoroughly recommend Bishop Gene Robinson's book 'In the Eye of the Storm'. Bishop Gene is a very sincere, caring, compassionate man of God, he understands, he listens, he goes alongside people and has respect for everyone. He is uniting the church as a disciple of Jesus.
Pam Megson, Dronfield, Derbyshire
Schism is the only way forward. One church for gays and "progressives" and one for Christian traditionalists.
Christianity is under threat from secularism, liberalism, marxism and Islamism.
Only by purging itself of a minority who are trying to pervert the scriptures will Christianity survive.
Geoff M, Birmingham, England
What is this Church that does not preach the Good News, denies the Resurrection and is afraid of death? Why do we need bishops to authorise the distribution of plain bread and wine in a nice setting and give guidance on social issues?
Dave, DC, USA
Have your say
Name Name, Town,
Doesn't anyone see anything weird in the fact that these guys are trying to follow "a Zulu model of talk-based conflict resolution"?
Didn't it ever occur to them to use the principles at, for example, James 1:19, Matt 5:23,24, or Gal 6:1? These bishops all prefer man's advice to God's.
John Smith, Lancashire, UK
To Alex London,
So a group of self interested parties noncontemporaneously wrote that Jesus said to ignore the harsh teachings of the OT God and just listen to what he says. Bit like 'NEW' Labour spin really. Truth is that this debate is irrelevant to the majority (atheists) and laughable at best
AKULA, london, UK
Again I ask "was Adam circumsised?' If so, who did it?
m wilson, bidache, france
Eric Kossian: Why bear false witness against a group of people(The Episcopal Church- or did you intend another group) whom you can't possibly know and have obviously not really listened to?
That (they) "do not believe the Bible is the Word of God " is
nonsense. You just want your own idol raised
W. Joseph Trickey, Stuart Florida, USA
Gay sex is really important: the single issue now insisted on by our western episcopate. All else is secondary 'adiaphora'.
Tom, Witney, UK
I watched the BBC documentry about the rebels-the Churches are bursting at the seams,faith is strong& growing with people ready to lay down their lives for their faith
The Church in England is dying on her feet whilst the nation just ignores it and like Nero just fiddles.
John, Durham, UK
The Bishops and Priests of the Anglican Comminion who
think that the Roman Catholic Church Curia has the answer to their concerns would be wise to read "Disputed Truth"
---Memoirs of Hans Kung. It has just been released in English by Novalis Publishing Inc. Toronto, Canada, 2008.
H.F. Southcott, Ottawa Ontario, Canada
"been seduced away from the truth of the Bible"
Where did this all too human notion that "The Bible" is the source of all truth come from? Not from the Bible (please don't quote 2 Tim 3:16!! yes scripture is useful!), certainly not from Jesus, so where? From those who crave certainty perhaps?
Daniel Heslop, Bournemouth, UK
The CoE is not a Church, the CoE is a religious institution created by Henry VIII to attend his political needs. No more then that.
Fabio C, London, UK
So many are quick to condemn the Archbishop of Canterbury on this issue of homosexuality. This is diverting him from far more important issues that require the Anglican Church's attention. When will the schismists realise that satan is playing the fiddle and that they are dancing to his tune?
Jon, Purley,
The Anglican leadership has been seduced away from the truth of the Bible by human reasoning and God is in the process of separating the chaff from the wheat. He wants a pure church not one given over to it's own lusts. Jesus loved but effected change in everyone around him.. go and sin no more...
Dave Anderson, Seattle,
What is really important is eradicating superstition. Ecrasez l'infame!
Paul Freeman, London, England
The problem lies in the very roots of the church. The only possible resolution might come from a true Christian leader unafraid to say he believes the Bible.
Pacha Nagnaka, Gsganka, Mali
The Anglican Church is like a marriage. Unity for life, for better for worse, in sickness and in health, till death us do part.
Communication through conversation is the only way to work through our differences and the words that Jesus gave to us all 'Love one another as I haved loved you'.
Pam Megson, Dronfield, Derbsyhire, UK
the best new the current archbishop of canterbury could give anglicans, is that he has decided to resign.
this man has done more damage to his religion than all the previous encumbents before him.he has divided the church, and will preside over its break up with his liberal ideas.
r.down, london, uk
An "indaba" after Buddhist chants & grass-skirted Melanesian dancers in the Canterbury Cathedral? The investiture of the Archbishop of York amidst Ugandan Bwola dancers & African singing? No wonder the Anglican Church, bereft of its cultural compass, sees its British membership dwindle rapidly.
Bob Evans, Anaheim, California
Scripture, Tradition & Reason are valuable means for imparting religious knowledge but they are 'means' to an end, that of - life in God's presence - not ends in themselves. We must not make 'idols' out of either Scripture or Tradition or Reason. Worldly doctrines such as "Biblical infallibility"
Daniel Heslop, Bournemouth, UK
"The Word was made flesh - a dwelt among us". No longer do we worship the written word - but the Logos, who is the Word.
The Bible is like the Parables of Jesus. Believers need to 'read, mark, learn and inwardly digest it ' - but not worship it!,
Father Ron Smith, Christchurch, New Zealand
archbishop of canterbury says "now we must work out what really is important". i would have thought that was the easy part, you accept the bible and (try) and life by it, that is, if you are a christian. the c o e has tried to be something for everyone and become nothing for anyone.
stephen baron, leith, tasmania
Wade, you're missing the point a little with those comments. The Old Testament law is not considered fully relevant since Christ in the way it was - Jesus said in the New Testament he had come to fulfil the law. Homosexuality, on the other hand, is clearly opposed in the New Testament too
Alex, London,
Christianity has its own morality norms clearly marked on the tin. Female ordination is arguable, homosexuality is not. That tin is marked forbidden fruit. OK, so why not have a separate Gay Anglican Communion church, afterall we have plenty of spare churches these days and trial it for 20 yrs?
Dennis, Sydney, Australia
It is obvious that there is no room to agree to disagree and the ultimate end must be a split. I wish they would just get on with it. The whining of religionist conservatives is so tedious.
Mike Homfray, Liverpool,
The bible claims to be the word of God!
"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness" (2 Timothy 3:16)
If the Church of England rejects the word of God, another people will take their place. God help England if that happens.
Mark, Maidstone, England
What new issues? "There's nothing new under the sun"
It's through mercy, not sacrifice we visit the sick or those in prison. But if what if the sickness or crime is an unnecessary invention of this world?
"many have sinned for a small thing; those seeking abundence will turn their eyes away"
Mrs.Josephine Hyde-Hartley, Bacup, UK
If Rowan Williams had abided by the Windsor REport and excluded America for consecrating a practising homosexual bishop, then the communion would be in stronger shape.
Instead, he has fudged and fudged and fudged, and the communion will be weaker and break into different pieces.
Thank God for GAFCON
James, Heathfield, East Sussex
What would Jesus do?, What did Jesus say? What do we think he would say to all the Bishops in attendence and those who chose to boycott. You can't have a relationship with someone who refuses to come to the table to talk. That's what we see here in the U.S.
Susan Marengo, Lexington, MI USA
Susan Marengo, Lexington, MI, USA
The Church of England is out of touch.The C of E by trying to cater for every Tom, Dick and Harry has made the Catholic Church more appealing to traditionalists. Like our public services, the C of E is trying to social engineer us all into conformity, and pity indeed the dissenter !!
slade wallis, Retford, Great Britain
Of course the whole debate is very silly, but why to right wing Christians bang on about: you can't go against what's written in the Bible when gthey are quite happy with going against a whole bunch of precepts such as stoning rape and pillage etc which are also in the Bible and much more stated
Wade, Croydon, UK
The AnglicanChurch is the Laodicean church of Revelation 3:14 Hot nor cold Rich bit wretched and pitiable. They even have a famous picture of a man they call Jesus knoocking at the door. Very apt. This is the dieing age of all these churches because thet refuse to obey Yahweh and his word.
Jas, Alders , UK
The Bible is not raw material which could be interpreted by who-ever and hence end up with various "view points". No, the Bible IS an interpretation! The Bible interprets itself with apostolic authority and thát interpretation is the true Christian Faith to which all Christians should bow the knee.
Chris, Cape Town, SA
Eric Kossian, God's word comes to us in many ways and it's our task to interpret it in each succeeding generation. You may believe you have The Truth, the unique interpretation of the Bible and of God's word; others use their God-given gifts of intellect to reach different conclusions.
Jane, Brighton,
Hard to see what sort of conflict resolution there can be with GAFCON not there. The truth is that schism has already happened and Lambeth is just putting the best gloss on it that it can. Better that way. Luke 9:5.
Terry Hamblin, Bournemouth,
Buddhist chants?, resolutions that have been passed since 1867 youll find many of them on really important subjects have never been acted on?, no votes?, the crisis is complex?
Mmmm maybe GAFCON is the answer
Creator/Evolution -mmm sounds a bit like which came first the chicken or the egg?
Clem, Perth, Australia
This Archbishop wants inclusivity above all things. But the bible says the following:
Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword...see Matthew 10:34-39.
Jesus wasnt advocating violence but he was drawing a line in the sand...not inclusivity
JohnW, Oldham,
I can not agree more. The Anglican Church has lost it way and is hurting all churches. Does the Anglican Church believe the Bible is the Inspired Word of God? Is the Anglican Church a Christian Church? If homosexual sex and unions is ok, what is next? Multiple partner?
Samuel K. Farmer, Hazlehurst, USA
Such a simplistic approach to the literal truth of everything in the Bible would mean the world would still have to condone slavery, adulterers would be stoned to death and people could be put to death for wearing the wrong sort of clothes.
Mark Dolahenty, Sydney, Australia
Most people deny modern Physics but it has a strong element of proved truth which is Last page of Bible.
The Great Creator of all the Universe and Space starts at Absolute zero of temperature in Infinite time which means there is no boundary however long time or great distance.
Evolution-Earth.
Dr MI Barton MA. MBA.PhD, Oxon., uk
Perdon Eric,
But the so-called Christians have been editing the Bible, as we know it since it came into being. It has always been man´s word of god, not the other way around.
RD, San Miguel de Allende, Mexico
Why call yourself a Christian Church if you don't believe the Bible as the Word of God? Once you start picking what parts of the Bible you want to obey, then you've removed God from the throne & placed yourself on it. Jesus will say, "Away from me, I never knew you!" Without Him you can do nothing.
Eric Kossian, Leavenworth, USA/WA