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Lambeth Conference: July 28-30
Bishop Mouneer Anis of Eygpt, Primate of the Episcopal Church in Jerusalem and the Middle East:
"I found the presidential address of Archbishop Rowan very clear. He clearly described what is happening and the thinking of people on both sides. I found his address helpful and very honest in expressing both sides of the conflict. While some very positive things are happening at the conference, some unresolved issues are still dividing the Communion. Those issues are still very much unresolved and untackled. I wonder if during the next few days we will do something about these unresolved issues. I have some doubts. The positives are that we are sitting down together, we are studying the Bible together, we are talking to each other and we are listening to each other.
Yet I see that a big wall still divides us. It is big because it involves the essentials, the foundation of our faith. We are not divided by mere trivialities, or issues on the periphery of faith. We are finding it very hard to come together in the essentials. This diversity of opinion is about the heart of our faith, the faith which we received from the saints. I speak the mind of many of my colleagues in the Global South, especially in the Diocese of Eygpt. I am aware that not all of us in the Province of Jerusalem and the Middle East have the same mind. I respect and love them.
I find that many of our North American friends blame us and criticise us for bringing in the issues of sexuality and homosexuality but in fact they are the ones who are bringing these issues in. Here at Lambeth, you come across many advertisements for events organised by gay and Lesbian activists which are sponsored by the North American Church. If you visit the marketplace at the conference, you will notice that almost half the events promoted on the noticeboard promote homosexuality and are sponsored by the North Americans. And in the end, we, the people who remain loyal to the original teaching of the Anglican Communion, which we received from the Apostles, are blamed. They say that we talk a lot about sexuality and that we need to talk more about poverty, about AIDs, and injustice. They are the ones who are bringing sexuality into this conference. It’s not us. We want to talk about the heart of the issues which divide us, not only sexuality. That is just a symptom of a deeper problem.
They talk about the slavery and say that 200 years ago Christians were opposed to the freedom of slaves and they compare us to those Christians for our attitude to gay and lesbian practises. To be honest, I think this is inviting us to another kind of slavery, slavery of the flesh, to go and do whatever our lusts dictate. Sometimes, I think that maybe because of the pressure in Western culture to push the practise of homosexuality, our friends in the West are pushing these issues. But, on the other hand, I see many who live in the West and still want to preserve the faith and the tradition of the Church. Should we allow culture to pressure the Church or should the Church be distinctive, light and salt to the world? Cardinal Ivan Dias said that we didn’t bring the Gospel to the culture we could end up suffering from spiritual Alzheimers."
Catharine Roskam, Suffragan bishop of New York:
“I was at Lambeth in 1998, and there is a wonderful atmosphere at this one despite the differences. It is much more spiritually grounded than last time. The Archbishop’s retreat was the perfect way to start us off and that prayerfulness has continued.”
Kirk Smith, bishop of Arizona: “I’ve really enjoyed it. I’ve had a great time in the Bible Studies groups. We now have to get on with the serious stuff. We’ve had a week now to get to know and trust one another. It is now time to do some hard work. As of today, we’ve now got to get on with the serious stuff. I’m still optimistic, though less optimistic than yesterday but I’m still optimistic because now we have to really prove we can do this over the next few days. It’s like being invited to a dinner party: everyone is happy to be there, and having a good time, drinking and eating the food. Then someone brings up politics, and the atmosphere changes. We have hope that the goodwill built up in the first half of the conference can sustain us through the process.”
Barry Morgan, Archbishop of Wales: “You realise when you come here why the Anglican Communion matters, as old friendships are renewed and new ones are forged from people who on the face of it have very little in common but who are fellow members of the Body of Christ. You realise how much the Communion matters to people in minority situations. There’s a tendency in Britain to underplay the significance of the Anglican Communion but if you are the Church in a part of the world where the Church is persecuted by the state but being part of the Church protects you because the state realises you are part of something bigger. This time, there is a more leisurely pace than the last one, it has been a chance to get to know one another. People underestimate the value of talking leisurely and at length to all sorts of people. No doubt that has helped to lessen the tensions.”
Ian Ernest, Archbishop of the Indian Ocean, Bishop of Mauritius: “I’ve been part of the design group amid the prevailing tensions and we thought this process would focus on togetherness to share in prayer and to address issues together. We have to do this in a spirit of frankness, humility and would love the Communion to express its faithfulness to the Word of God, because it has the capacity to be comphrehensive, but there are limits to our actions and to our decision or else they threaten the bonds of unity that hold us together. The Covenant is a base for mutual respect and to how our freedom is limited by the freedom of the other. If we are all eager to be humble in this process, communion will grow for Jesus Christ himself is love for the salvation of all people.”
Todd Mcgregor, Bishop of Madagascar: “People are interacting extremely well at this point, it is very positive.”
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The teachings of the saint, that is to say our ancestors and elders, are definitely worth looking at, keeping, studying and remembering. However, those saints didn't live in my context and some of their teachings are simply not relevant to my context. Perhaps the slavery is in idolizing the past.
Donald Whipple Fox, Minneapolis, United States
Well said, Bishop Anis. Gay activists have infiltrated the English and USA churches. They have one item on their agenda - to force everyone to approve gay sex.
So because you keep to the historic faith, you are accused of being un-Christian. Rather the innovators should prove their novel doctrines.
Bernard O'Callaghan, Chorley, Lancs
To Walter from Oak Island: One need not reject St. Paul in order to assert that homosexual behaviour is permissible. One need only look at his writings in context, coupled with the fact that the concept of sexual orientation was one that was not available to him.
Tom, London, UK
rjb said:
"Shouldn't Bishop Anis be sharing his concerns with his fellow bishops in the prayerful space created at Canterbury rather than blabbing to the media?"
The issue here is that our dear ++Rowan has organised things so that there is no open forum to discuss these essential issues
Jack, Adelaide, Australia
When David from Atlanta states, "Saint Paul will head the anti-gay church. Jesus will head the church that welcomes everyone," he shows how, in order to embrace the pan-sexuality of theological liberalism, one must reject the teaching of Holy Scripture. He just dropped 1/3 of the New Testament.
Walter, Oak Island, NC, USA
Saint Paul will head the anti-gay church. Jesus will head the church that welcomes everyone.
David, Atlanta, USA
Thank you Abp Mouneer Anis for sharing the "sights & sounds" of the Lambeth Conference venue. We are praying for you that you will continue to speak the truth in love.
Jacob, Perth, Australia
Shouldn't Bishop Anis be sharing his concerns with his fellow bishops in the prayerful space created at Canterbury rather than blabbing to the media? The culture of 'blogging bishops' and semi-public feuds that have surrounded this conference is stirred up by a news media desperate for a story.
rjb, Cambridge, England
To blame all North Americans for being supportive of the gay issue with a broad stroke is not fair. There are plenty of N.A. Episcopalians who are decidedly against Katherine Schori and what she stands for. A split in the church is imminent from this side of the Atlantic.
P. Renfors Smith, Beaufort, USA
Thank you Bishop Mouneer Anis for your clear, honest and acurate insight on the real issue.
Its good to see there is more to Lambeth than just, a feel good, everything is OK, do wht ever you like, peace at any cost attitude.
Clem, Perth, Australia