Ruth Gledhill, Religion Correspondent
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The Archbishop of Canterbury Dr Rowan Williams today blamed “human greed” for the financial crisis.
He joined Muslim leaders from around the world in calling for world leaders to work together to prevent the burden of the financial crisis from falling on “the weak and the poor.”
Dr Williams joined the Grant Mufti of Egypt Dr Ali Gomaa at Lambeth Palace in London to launch the communique from a meeting earlier this week in Cambridge, described by participants as “the most significant gathering of international Muslim leaders ever to take place in the United Kingdom.”
A Common Word, a conference of Christian and Muslim scholars, aimed at promoting better understanding between the two faiths.
The scholars examined areas on which both faiths agree, such as the need to speak out against persecution of Christians in Iraq and other minorities around the world, including Iran.
They also looked at the credit crunch from the perspective of Islam, which prohibits charging interest on lent money, and Christianity, which has changed its teaching to allow interest but still teaches against financial exploitation of the weak and vulnerable.
Asked which nation or human characteristic was most responsible for the credit crunch, Dr Williams joked: “I was going to suggest Satan.” But he added: “Clearly as religious leaders we want to say that the root of it is human greed.”
Dr Williams said he would like to see a dialogue with Islam about what constituted a just and reasonable rate of interest. “The Christian tradition has always been cautious about interest.” For many centuries, it was at one with the traditional Muslim approach, he said.
This changed around the time of the 16th century he said. The question since then was to work out “just and proper” rates of interest, rather than go for absolute prohibition.
Dr Williams said: “I would like very much to see a dialogue developing with Islam about this question of what a just, a reasonable rate of interest might look like in the light of a religious ethic but this is a work very much in its infancy, to put it mildly,” he said.
Dr Williams’ comments come after he and the Archbishop of York, Dr John Sentamu, attacked bankers and traders responsible for the financial crisis.
Dr Williams called for fresh scrutiny and regulation of the financial world and Dr Sentamu branded the traders who cashed in on falling share prices in HBOS as “bank robbers” and “asset strippers”.
Islamic banks, which operate within the restrictions set by Sharia, have been little affected by the credit crunch, according to Muslims at the conference, timed to coincide with the first anniversary of the publication of A Common Word Between Us and You, a letter from 138 Islamic scholars, clerics and intellectuals.
Addressed to Pope Benedict XVI and other Christian leaders, the letter warned that the survival of the world could be at stake if Muslims and Christians did not make peace with each other.
In their communique, the scholars said: “Meeting at a time of great turbulence in the world financial system our hearts go out to the many people throughout the world whose lives and livelihood are affected by the current crisis.
“When a crisis of this magnitude occurs, we are all tempted to think solely of ourselves and our families and ignore the treatment of minorities and the less fortunate. In this conference we are celebrating the shared values of love of God and love of neighbour, the basis of A Common Word, whilst reflecting self-critically on how often we fall short of these standards.
“We believe that the divine commandment to love our neighbour should prompt all people to act with compassion towards others, to fulfil their duty of helping to alleviate misery and hardship. It is out of an understanding of shared values that we urge world leaders and our faithful everywhere to act together to ensure that the burden of this financial crisis, and also the global environmental crisis, does not fall unevenly on the weak and the poor.”
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After the 1974 OPEC oil embargo and price shocks, the king of Saudi Arabia said that the increase in oil revenues would be used to help the poor and alleviate suffering. Aside from funding extremist madrassas, what else? The Archbishop needs a bit more "street smarts."
Sorry for having a memory.
Steven Gomprecht, Lodi, NY, USA
Splendid sentiments! But how do we drive out the Thatcerite incubus? Let's start with the evil of performance related pay. This method of incentivisiation has been shown up as the cause of so much wicked behaviour, like mortgage salesmen pushing 'ninja' loans. Equal salaries for equal jobs!
Conall, Margam, West Glamorgam
One thing to remember is that the 'Kingdom of God' or creation does not as far as I understand operate as a capialist democracy. A flawed system encouraged by flawed humans trying to avoid the truth of existence by money fueled ego's will always fail. We still have much to reflect upon.
Michael Pearce, Gloucester, UK
The Anglican Church is pure hypocrisy. It has £5bn in investments. When does it ever use even the interest on that capital to help victims of floods, wars, disease, tsunamis or earthquakes? Never. What is it for then? A present for Christ when he returns? The devils. He'll send all them all to hell.
R Carolus, Ft Lamy,
Yes, well human greed in it's essence is self-centeredness. The exact same impulse are destroying the Anglican Church. One might think the Archbishop might concern himself with his primary responsibilities and keep his church from implosion. That alone appears to be a plate-full to digest.
Dave H., Alexandria, VA, USA
So called islamic financial instruments have the same interest as their christian/western counterparts - it just has a different name.
I work for a company that sells financial software. The version of said software for an islamic market has different captions on the interest rate boxes...
Iain, Cambridge, UK
Dr Williams
More guilt trip
Let those who dont live in Bishops palaces and who actually have to WORK for a living throw the first stone.
kate, london, uk
I disagree with Faustino about interest rates. Many times the Federal reserve has made a decision to reduce the federal funds rate which always leads to a drop in interest rates. Thus the interest rate could be set, as the archbishop of Canterbury suggested, at a just & reasonable rate.
Rudy Parker, Cambridge, USA
Referring to Faustino, The Federal fund (interest) rate was dropped by the US Federal reserve in 2001 to stimulate growth & avoid recession. Many beleive that this led to the property boom, due to low mortgage rates, which in turn created the housing bubble bursting & our current financial crisis
Rudy Parker, Cambridge, USA
There is no "just and reasonable rate of interest." An interest rate is a price, which like other prices reflects supply, demand and risk. It has no spiritual element and no relevance to spiritual growth or lack thereof. Dr Williams' comments show ignorance both of economics and of religion.
Faustino, Brisbane, Australia
The West is suffering from Financial Obesity and the obsession with money is just pathetic.
What's the point of being buried with a full tank of petrol?
john, london,
Yeah, I'm sure Rowan WIlliams is the pre-eminent economic expert. And, going by what he has said in the past, he probably suggests that Sharia Law is a solution.
Mehul Kamdar, Des Plaines, IL, USA
'Human greed' is just as big a cop out as 'blaming society'. I played no part in this (no debts, no speculation). The irresponsibility/fraud of INDIVIDUALS is to blame. Like Gordon Brown and George Bush the good Archbishop has absolved them. Only the deluded could think they will 'go and sin no more
Eric Skelton, Cardiff, Wales
Well said Dr Williams,lets all stand up and be counted.
Mike B, Lincoln, UK