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Sir, Lord Leach of Fairford’s letter (“The false certainties of climate change theory”, Dec 20) espouses a bizarre mixture of half-truths and misinformation. I find it entertaining that someone who in previous correspondence claims to be a non-scientist can so confidently list a series of “facts” that are wrong. The evidence for human-driven climate change is overwhelming: the world is warming up because of elevated greenhouse gases, the climate models can explain the cooling of the mid-20th century and if anything, projections for the future are conservative; reconstructions of the past imply the climate system is more sensitive to greenhouse gases than we might like to acknowledge.
No one is denying that scientists should be sceptical (that is our job), but to imply that those who deny climate change are somehow ahead of their time is wholly misleading. The greats who did so in the past put forward evidence that broke the consensus of the time and moved the science forward. Those who continue to deny climate change muddy the waters of action and delay the urgent measures we so desperately need. If Lord Leach still feels challenged by the science I suggest he reads some accessible blogs on climate change, such as www.celsias.com or www.realclimate.org. Once he has got up to speed on the science, Lord Leach might wake up to the considerable problems we face and make a more valuable contribution to the public debate: how to get ourselves out of the mess we’ve created.
Professor Chris Turney
University of Exeter
Sir, In the world inhabited by Lord Leach, that of making money, momentous decisions are taken daily on virtually no scientific evidence. In contrast, caution is the constant companion of scientists when drawing conclusions from the evidence they have accumulated. This caution is very evident in the recent IPCC report, in which all conclusions are expressed in terms of probabilities.
Far from being a new idea, the concept of greenhouse gases was described by Fourier in 1824 and the role of carbon dioxide and other compound gases in trapping the Sun’s radiation by Tyndall in 1860. For many decades this was simply regarded as an explanation of why life was able to develop on our planet and thought to be beneficial in terms of encouraging agriculture. But an exponential rise in carbon dioxide has been recorded since the early 1960s and ice-core atmospheric samples have now shown current concentrations to be almost double the highest found in the previous 400,000 years. There is currently a very serious imbalance between production of greenhouse gases and their removal by the oceans and vegetation.
No amount of special pleading by those whose livelihood depends on ever-increasing use of the Earth’s unrenewable resources can alter the facts that greenhouse gases are rising and that the effect of such a rise is to trap more of the Sun’s radiation in our planet. It is very unwise to attempt to persuade the scientifically unsophisticated that they need not worry.
Professor Anthony Seaton
Edinburgh
Sir, Perhaps taxpayers’ money would be better spent on tackling not the linear increase in CO2 emissions but the exponential increase in the world population.
Robert Freer
London SE21
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I'd like to see some qualifications and research/scientific grounds behind the comments posted on this and other times online sites. On one side, I read comments by scientists who state their position etc. The other, apparently random members of the public damning the information with absolutely no scientific rationale presented. In addition, the amount of emotion in the comments (such as those by Scott Durham) would indicate to that these are people who would be personally affected by a shift in policy to support reduction in fossel fuel use. It's sad that such comments find their way to these sites.
Kate, Sydney, Australia
If Professors Turney and Seaton are typical examples of academics supporting the alarmists "consensus", it's no wonder they find themselves being asked awkward questions. Prof. Turney's undemanding approach to "evidence" may be amusing, but he shows poor judgement in advocating realclimate.og; a website that's famously heavy on dogma but somewhat light on science. For those interested in scientific fact and quality of evidence, climateaudit would have been a more rational choice. Then Prof. Seaton inferrs that detractors belong to those "whose livelihood depends on ever-increasing use of the Earthâs unrenewable resources". A somewhat bizarre claim to make, particularly when the livelihoods of so many climate scientists depend on funding for promoting the doomsday scenario. Pots and kettles come to mind.
Alan Johnson, Alton, Hants
Vivienne O'Riain, Paris, France, please show us your calculations on concrete and C02, sounds interesting.
BobB, Chowchilla, USA/ California
"The Earth is Warming! The Earth is Warming!" sounds suspiciously like "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!" sounds suspiciously like "An ice age is coming! An ice age is coming!"
Correlation is not proof of Causation. Nor is the breast beating and self-love strutted about by Al Gore at Bali going to change that.
AGW is political science, not hard science.
Scott, Durham, NC, USA
The elephant in the room is human population growth. How is it that practically everyone ignores it?
David, Bromley,
Why do people think there's oil under the arctic sea? It's over 3 km deep there. Oil is found under the Continential shelf, not the deep ocean.
Revealing title: we "must", presumably because the believers say so. But I don't like to be told that I "must", or not, do something, just because someone who thinks he/she knows says so.
Bzw, last month I scrapped my old faithful bicycle. Just estimated that it and I have done about 40 thousand miles together over the past 15 years. Just to be clear: those miles were not done in my car.
Google on "earthshine project" and follow this link:
http://www.bbso.njit.edu/science_may28.html. The albedo (reflectivity) of the Earth has increased by more than 5% since 1998, and rising , because of changing cloud cover. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to know that that means that the Earth is going to cool a bit. A changing albedo is not included in any climate model used by the IPCC.
It's the climate maffia that peddles the half-truths.
Ed Zuiderwijk (PhD physics), Cambridge, UK
The major offendor is the cement industry which produces one ton of CO2 for every ton of cement. This means that in Europe alone 200 million tons of CO2 are generated by the cement industry.
www.ecocem.ie
Vivienne O'Riain, Paris, France
Typical academic response. Now there is proof of global cooling can we deal with the fact that A - climate change is a part of the way things are B - the powers that be want to use climate change to control and tax people because that is all politicians ever do
c - www dot climate police dot com
d - ALEX JONES ENDGAME http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1070329053600562261
E - Since the mid-19th century, the mean global temperature has increased by 0.7 degrees Celsius. This slight warming is not unusual, and lies well within the range of natural variation. Carbon dioxide continues to build in the atmosphere, but the mean planetary temperature hasn't increased significantly for nearly nine years. Antarctica is getting colder. Neither the intensity nor the frequency of hurricanes has increased. The 2007 season was the third-quietest since 1966. In 2006 not a single hurricane made landfall in the U.S.
Full Article: http://earthchangesmedia.com/secure/3247.326/article-9162519947.php
Peter Watson, Shaftesbury, Dorset
"The evidence for human-driven climate change is overwhelming"
Is this why there has been no increase in temperature since 2001?http://www.newstatesman.com/200712190004
"Global warming has, temporarily or permanently, ceased.
Temperatures across the world are not increasing as they should according to the fundamental theory behind global warming â the greenhouse effect. Something else is happening and it is vital that we find out what or else we may spend hundreds of billions of pounds needlessly. For the past decade the world has not warmed. Global warming has stopped.
Itâs not a viewpoint or a scepticâs inaccuracy. Itâs an observational fact.
The UK must have the wrong CO2, since 1659, the hottest Central England temperatures from Hadley are:
winter - 1869, followed by 1834
spring - 1893 followed by 1945
summer - 1976 followed by 1826.
autumn - at last success for global warming, 2006, but followed by 1730, 1731 and 1729. This year 2007 ranks at 42 out of 349
Harbinger, Newquay, Uk
Now that the Arctic ice is melting, we need to open the Arctic up to oil drilling. We need cheaper oil close to home. And because there are no trees there, we will not have to worry about the tree huggers.
Joseph, Bristol, CT
The evidence is not overwhelming and whether or not there is even consensus is debatable. http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.SenateReport
Tom, Billings, USA