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Sir, The question of who believes in God (Matthew Parris, Dec 22) is ridiculous unless you define God. For most practising Christians, God is merely a reflection of their own virtuous aspirations, certainly not the external intelligence, keeping in being a real afterlife, which is traditional teaching.
Most practising Christians, including some of the clergy, would rather suffer martyrdom than sit down and analyse what they think God is and what they actually believe in. And at risk of atheistic scorn, there is something to be said for going to church and not troubling your head over it.
Roger Copley
Orpington, Kent
Sir, There is only one answer a politician of any party and any faith should give to the question “do you believe in God?” and that is “None of your business.” This is the same, by the way, as the answer to the question “Are you gay?” — however desirably succinct both questions may be.
For the normally sane, clear-thinking Matthew Parris to get such an important issue both so muddled and so wrong is disappointing. First, the principle of the separation of Church and State should be absolute. Paine, Mill, Jefferson etc are all turning in their graves. Surely we only have to look at religious states such as Saudi Arabia and several looming theocracies to understand precisely why more than 400 years ago men of greatness and wisdom adumbrated this principle with passion.
Secondly, and more pragmatically, if you insist on asking politicians about their religious beliefs, you are simply asking to be lied to, a bit like
asking whether they believe in Santa Claus. We must judge politicians on their actions not their intentions.
It was precisely the appeal to religious sanction for the invasion of Iraq that should have led to an implacable Senate and House of Commons flatly rejecting the plans of Mr Bush and Mr Blair. But both bodies profoundly failed their respective peoples and deepest democratic traditions by allowing a lethal mixture of quasi-religious rhetoric and self-aggrandising hubris to launch the most dangerous, anti-democratic war in my lifetime.
How can we expect to resist the evils of fundamentalism if we do not hold true to 2,000 years of hard-won wisdom?
Keith Farman
St Albans, Herts
Sir, What a pity Matthew Parris repeats the same banal reductionism that characterises so much of the debate about religion. I am a religious person and I affirm the Christian creed. But I would need an entire issue of The Times to explain what that creed means for me — how my religious beliefs, sentiments and intuitions express themselves in different times and contexts, how they have evolved and are still evolving, and how I understand God, the Gospels, the Spirit in history and religious values.
At a moment when Tony Blair has been received into the Catholic Church after 20 years of reflection, how can the metaphysical beliefs of anyone, let alone prime ministers, be summed up with such crude terminology as “unlikely” and “probably not”? I would prefer to judge them tolerantly by their policies and decisions, rather than seeking windows into their souls. One wonders which non-believers Mr Parris thinks he is speaking for when he uses that weasel word “we”.
Jonathan Luxmoore
Catholic News Service, Warsaw
Sir, Matthew Parris refers dismissively to Harold Macmillan’s “somewhat theatrical interest in the Church”.
He confined the theatrical to the political realm. Throughout his life he took Communion regularly, describing his faith as “the strong thing in my life”. He should be numbered among those to whom Parris awards a “Yes” for belief.
Alistair Cooke
London SWI
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Yes, Christians - in whatever position they have in society - should be open about holding faith in Christ Jesus. Why? Because Jesus Christ teaches them that this is what they should do!
Jesus Christ is 'good news', news of eternal salvation. Do you keep any other news of salvation to yourself, selfishly hiding it as if it were some private secret? No, you share it with others for their benefit - so too with faith. True faith in Christ must be shared.
Bishop Dominic Stockford, Teddington, Middlesex
In response to Dane from Oxford, regarding a creator god, surely a god who created all the universe which he referred to is able to spend some time showing an interest in 'the star around which our cosmic dot of a planet orbits' and indeed the inhabitants of that planet. The argument that the universe is an awfully big place and therefore God would have his hands too full to spend time on human beings is an anthropomorphism. If God is God then of course he can!
Bill, Yeovil, UK
Roger Copley's contention that for most practising Christians, God is not an external intelligence promising an afterlife, accords with my belief but I doubt that there is evidence that this is yet the majority view. It seems even less likely in the case of the Muslim faith. My hope is that in time, all people will see sense.
John Barry, Cromer, England
What people seem to mean by the question "Do you believe in a god" is "Do you believe in a creator god of the universe which is concerned with human lives collectively and individually and which is in some sense involved in the idea of life after death."
Given that the Sun, the star around which our cosmic dot of a planet Earth orbits, is one of about a hundred thousand million other stars in our Milky Way galaxy and that our Milky Way galaxy is one of about a hundred thousand million other galaxies in our Universe, the common sense answer must be "No". Except, that is, as a wishful-thinking idea in the minds of those human beings for whom the answer is Yes".
Dane Clouston, Oxford,
Mr Luxmoore - in saying "we", Matthew Parris speaks for me and many, many other people who are not adherents of any of your superstitions (organised or otherwise), as you would see from the many, many comments supporting his article.
Sue Burnett, Pontypridd, Wales
believe in the best leave the rest
Noel, kochi, india