Jeremy Clarkson
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An avenger hitting dealers where it hurts
As a general rule, you do not buy a Volvo because you want a sleek motorway cruiser or a machine that grips like a rabbit in flight. You buy one because you have many children, and because you occasionally need to transport wardrobes.
So why, you may be wondering, have they made the car you see in the pictures this morning? An all-wheel-drive saloon car with a big V8 at the front and no space for even medium-sized furniture at the back. Have they gone mad?
No. Not really. But to understand why, you need to know a little bit about how the car industry works. It’s very simple. The car maker makes cars that are then bought by a global network of dealers. Who then sell the cars on to you and I. This is known in financial circles as “a licence to print money”.
I’m being serious. Because once you’ve decided that you’d like, say, a BMW, realistically the only place you can buy it is from the one dealer in your area. You can go to a dealer further away, of course, but don’t expect your local chap to bend over backwards if something goes wrong.
All the dealer has to do then, is offer you a small discount to make you feel good. Then he takes this money straight back again by stitching you up with a load of extras you don’t want or need. And a finance deal that is designed to ruin you, your children and your children’s children. And then he offers to buy your old car for a pound. And you accept because selling it privately is such a godforsaken faff.
All those epsilons coming up the drive, kicking the tyres and trying to fob you off with a Nigerian bank draft that they assure you is as good as gold. Yeah right. Better to be rid of it for a pound . . . and try to forget it’s going to get a polish and be sitting on the dealer’s forecourt next week with a sticker price of £22,250.
Then it’s time for a service. And that’ll be £300. Unless some work needs to be done, in which case it will be £700. I know a chap who was charged the other day for someone to “examine” the tyres on his car.
So, life as a car dealer is normally pretty rosy. Except for one tiny thing. It’s okay if you have the franchise for BMW or Mercedes or Alfa Romeo because the car you use to go home at night will be fine and swanky. But what if your dealership sells Hyundais? Sure, you’re making plenty of cash, but every night you have to go home in an Accent.
And it’s the same story with Volvo. You bathe in the milk from a honey badger. You pour Cristal on your cornflakes and you gave your wife a diamond-studded vibrator for Christmas. You even have golf clubs made from an alloy of titanium, magnesium and mink. But you have to go to work every day in a ho-hum slab of Swedish ironmongery that has the pizzazz of a dead dog.
Oh sure, you’ve got the top of the range S80 with seats made from the bosom of a fin whale and an electric drinks dispenser. But it’s still a Volvo. And you are still being laughed at by Nozzer and Ozzer at the 19th hole every Saturday afternoon.
Which is why, at the last Volvo dealer convention, you pleaded with the high-ups in Sweden to make a big V8. “I could sell thousands,” you lied. And what’s more, every other Volvo dealer in the world was saying the same thing.
So Volvo relented. And put a V8 in the front of the new S80 and now every Volvo dealer on the planet is happy. But what about you and I? The multitudes who must now buy this car if Volvo’s investment is to pay off.
I suppose we should start with the engine. I assumed that since Jaguar and Volvo are both owned by Ford, it would be a Jag 4.2 under the bonnet. But it isn’t. It’s a jewel of a thing from Yamaha: 4.4 litres, silken power, no holes in the torque curve and a gorgeous V8 snuffle when you turn it on.
Twice in a day, chauffeurs waiting with Mercs outside expensive restaurants whipped round to see what had made the noise, and both times they looked amazed. Hearing this noise coming from a Volvo is like finding a baby that opens its mouth to scream, and then sounds like an antelope.
There isn’t a bucketload of power on tap but because of the four-wheel-drive system, none goes to waste. You stamp on the throttle and no matter how greasy the road might be, the car just sits up and voom. Like it’s been electrocuted.
This is a good thing because everything else on this car is a bit slow. The gearbox, for instance. You put your foot down and you have time to get through an Ian McEwan squash game before it kicks down.
Then there’s the cruise control off switch. Of all the things in life that have to be instantaneous, this is number one. Even above a gun. But it isn’t. Push it and the car sails on at 70 for what seems like two weeks before you get control back.
And then there’s the sat nav. Not a Volvo strong point this since it steadfastly refuses to acknowledge that either the Oxford ring road or the M40 exist, but to make matters worse, it doesn’t respond to your inputs properly.
“Mmmm,” it drawls, when you push the letter “L”. Then “Mmmm” again. And then: “So, you want an L do you? Mmmm. Let me think about that.” After a while I began to think it might be on smack.
Worse than the slowness of the controls, though, is the suspension. Three settings are available “comfort”, “sport” and something labelled “advanced”.
In the comfort setting, the car glides nicely from place to place, lulling you into a dreamy and creamy sense of security. And then, when you least expect it, you run over a manhole cover and all four wheels begin to pitter-patter like they’ve been connected to the San Andreas fault.
So you put it in sport and now there’s no sense of security at all because the wheels pitter-patter permanently. Even when there’s nothing for them to pitter-patter over.
In desperation, you go for the advanced setting, which offers a combination of sports and comfort, so you end up with something that is neither. “Advanced” over what, I wondered? An ox? A druid?
The problem is that Volvo is not intrinsically a maker of luxury cars. There is no culture, as there is at Jaguar, of making a car inherently sublime. And this can no more be achieved with trick electronics than you could make Ray Charles a cricketer by dressing him in white trousers and a box.
Some of the S80 is very nice. The interior, with its linen-look aluminium (I know, I didn’t know what they were on about either, but it works) and that cascading centre console is a lovely place to sit. Spacious too.
Then there’s the safety. Warning lights illuminate when someone is in your blind spot and then, on the dash, right in front of you is a huge red light that comes on from time to time. I have no idea why. But it doesn’t half wake you up.
I also think it’s a good looking car. And at £48,150 for the SE Sport model, fully loaded with options, you have to admit, it is exceptional value for money. Mind you, you’ll lose your trousers with the depreciation.
And that’s where you can be quite cunning. Because all of Volvo’s 145 British dealers will have ordered a V8 S80 with all the bells and whistles, and in about six months they’ll be flogging them. They know that to get them shifted they’ll have to be much cheaper than rival offerings from Mercedes and BMW so you should be able to do a good deal.
And, for the first time, drive away from a car dealer’s forecourt, knowing you ripped him off.
Vital statistics
Model Volvo S80 SE Sport
Engine 4414cc, eight cylinders
Power 311bhp @ 5950rpm
Torque 325lb ft @ 3950rpm
Transmission Six-speed automatic
Fuel 23.7mpg (combined cycle)
CO2 284g/km
Acceleration 0-60mph: 6.0sec
Top speed 155mph Price £39,950

Verdict Great engine, shame about the rest
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my 2.5t S80 SE, 3.5 years old, £7,000.
I think I'll wait a bit more than 6 months for this one thanks.
matthew, london,
If ever in doubt about the correct usage of "you and me" or "you and I", remove the "you and" from the phrase. The correct one becomes obvious.
Patrick McGrath, Cambourne, UK
David, London, England says 'please don't try to tell the English about the use of grammar in our own language. Jeremy is correct in his use of "you and I'.
Which is why those who were raised reading Paddington Bear don't know how to read or write ... :-)
DrEdwardo, Vancouver, BC Canada
David of Londno, are you REALLY sure that it isn't you and me.
It was when I was at school in the grimy North...
northern exile , London, UK
It will never be as good as an old Volvo 460 GL 1.8 -91
Nils Karlsson Pyssling, Fredrikstad, Finland
Jeremy, you know perfectly well that dealers make about fourpence each on selling individual new cars. They only make proper money on manufacturer's bonuses, for which they have to unload a lot those models that the manufacturers want to produce, rather than those models that customers want to buy.
Frank Upton, Solihull,
Nope: it's you and me in this instance
James Harve, London, UK
Sorry David, Mr Quinsey is absolutely right. "You and I then buy the cars" would be correct, but the dealer doesn't sell a car to I, he sells it to me.
Matt, London,
John R. Quinsey, Dania Beach, FL - please don't try to tell the English about the use of grammar in our own language. Jeremy is correct in his use of "you and I". People think that Americans are thick? What on earth gives them that impression?!
David, London, England
Spot on Jeremy
A six month old Volvo S80 V8 and A year oldVW Phaeton 6 litre petrol at £32K, must be the best value for money " Supre Saloons" on the road
I have already seen the S80 V8 dramatically reduced
07 Plate had a ticket price of £29K in Taggarts Glasgow North
It would still be difficult to sell as this dealership shares a showroom with Range Rover and Jaguar
Regards
Fraser McKay, Glasgow, UK
In New Zealand,where, like the UK, everyone in retail follows W.C. Fields sensible advice of never giving a sucker an even break,the starting price is NZ$109,990(US$84000).
AC, Auckland, NZ
In my opinion, I think Clarkson has hit the nail on the head -- concerning both the industry and the vehicle in question.
I say this as a Volvo enthusiast, author of Volvo tech books, and having driven the car. That said, I agree about the potential "good value"; it just depends on what your values are.
Volvos used to be brilliantly practical. Now some, like the S80 V8, aspire to be pseudo-snooty land-yachts with no more utility than the average Chrysler. Their dynamics mid-pack (at best) and fuel economy that is absurd in today's terms.
Volvo would be far better off spending more time developing cars like the C30 or improving the S60 and the V70 (estate) than pretending to aspire to a role that it has neither the resources nor inclination to assume.
Paul, Ottawa, Canada
Could it be that JC (Jeezesss - some initials!) is a guy who's grown so much into prejudices like: if it's BMW or Merc it's OK or only the Brits (is there actually still a British manufacturer?) know how to build luxury cars (some Germans there, no?), ...
Or is it simply his media-profile, you know, like being expected to be funny.
Well, funny he is, really, great laughs! Congrats! Very British...
But it doesn't really matter if he talks about, aaahmmm, let's say kitchen furniture, or dog food, or ah yes: cars...
It's OK, JC (Jeeezesss...), really - keep on doing your thing: I'm always having a lot of fun!
Brgds - a happy S80 driver (by the way: I also drove BMW 5ers - way too little value for money, but you already knew that, didn't you!).
D. Hilven, Zolder, Belgium
Why is it more expensive in the UK?
One reason is that due toe the left side driving, all cars sold there has to be produced with special dashboard, steering assembly etc.
Anders, Tartu, Estonia
I had a set of bunk beds in the back of my Volvo estate last week. Had to take the kids car seats out to fold the rear seats down though.......
Jude, Blackpool, England
O I like Volvo much ,it's special and BMW or Benz are used too much . Anyway everyone has his favorit .
Ben Wu, Nanjing CN,
Britons seem to be flocking to Florida, where the real estate market is depressed, boat dealers are desperate, and the dealers along Okeechobee road in West Palm Beach offer discounts that make it worth visiting an otherwise depressed old street. Colombian food (La Fonda Paisa), Cuban (Don Ramon's) is available nearby on Military Trail, along with Nissans, Subarus and Fords. For some reason the better cars cluster on Okeechobee. And yes, the US version of that 8-cylinder S-80 seems to cost in dollars what the British version does in pounds. How is that possible?
Dave, Vero Beach, US/Florida
£48,000 Good value for money! I think Clarkson is the one on Smack.
It'd be cheaper to buy one from the USA, ship it 5 times around the world, get it converted to RHD and you'd still have enough left over to buy a small cottage in Somerset.
Phill Barlow, The Wirral, England
Thanks JC, perfect description of volvos and their owners there.
One thing tho, is it really possible that car-critic nr. 1 does'nt know how to use cruise control?
Above again is mentioned how slowly cruise control button works (when regaining control of speed is needed). Similar story was in Alfa 159 review (I think).
Every person who has driven car with CC knows that you can over-ride it by using pedals (brake or throttle).
Of course, could be that macho-bloke JC doesn't need to read manuals or discuss about this kind of issues with anyone.....
Karhu, Finland,
Guess What ? - at £40k+ IT WON'T SELL !!
Steve, Kidderminster, Worcs
The UK has been known as "Treasure Island", in the motor industry, for exactly the reasons clearly identified by Al. Such cynical pricing extends into many other aspects of retail marketing in the UK.
Anthony Lloyd-Weston, Crewe, UK
"Who then sell the cars on to you and I." Who then sell the cars to I? Me don't think so.
John R. Quinsey, Dania Beach, FL
The price here in the US is a bit steep at $49,955. That's the on-the-road price. Then I saw the price quoted in the article above in the UK - between £39,950 and £48,150. That's a staggering $81,000 - $98,000. Can anyone explain to me why the Brits have to pay nearly twice for the same car? Yes, there are subtle differences, but not $40K's worth! Unfortunately, it's true of most car manufacturers these days in the UK. I've heard the term 'rip-off Britain'. I guess it's true.
Al, St. Petersburg, USA/Florida
We pay about 1.7 time what you do for petrol too.
Makes owning a car a very expensive option.
I know US forces guys who have brought these massive hulking trucks ver here and then drive them once a month as the cost of fuel is so high.
Damian, Leamington, England