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British firms are increasingly following American companies in using the internet to dig up “digital dirt” on potential future employees.
In March, in a poll of 500 employers by Poolia, recruitment agency two thirds admitted regularly carrying out internet searches, including checking social networking sites such as MySpace, Facebook and YouTube. An even larger poll, of 2,000 workers and 600 employers, by the social networking site Viadeo suggested that one organisation in five carries out such checks — and that a quarter of those that did had rejected applicants as a result.
Common internet reputation — or “NetRep” — black marks cited in the poll included “alcohol abuse”, showing a lack of respect for your job, or that the candidate was “personally into some activities that did not fit ethically into the company”.
So far as she is aware, Helen Simmons, a 25-year-old London PA in financial services, has never been vetted online by an employer and makes clear that she would have nothing to hide in any case. Nevertheless, she has taken steps to ensure that her online personal life remains private. “I had a MySpace and a Facebook account but because of all these stories I’ve closed them,” she says. “A lot of my friends are worried about this, too. People are closing accounts or making them private so that only friends can access them.”
But it’s not a one-way street. Helen has “googled” employers to whom she has applied. “I look for anything that might put me off — high staff turnover, for instance,” she says. “I’ll also see if there are any blogs on them. If I’d been offered an interview and found something off-putting, it would stay at the back of my mind.”
Companies should be wary, says Shaun Greenfield, sales director at Poolia. “You’d have to be very careful about rejecting someone because of something posted online, particularly if it related to age, religion or sexual orientation.”
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I was vetted this week by a well known company that will remain nameless. I was so thrilled when they offered me a job, as I can't claim benefits because of my partners wage and have been living off practically nothing. Unfortunately the next day they called and said because they had seen on my facebook profile that I had applied for another job too, they didn't want me anymore. Apparently it was because I "seemed to prefer the other job" I had applied for. I still have no idea how they got onto my facebook profile as it is set to friends only. As you can imagine, I was extremely let down. This was the first job I had been offered in months of hunting. It was very, very distressing and I wasnt even given a chance to speak to the company about it as they did it all through an indepedent recruitment company. I feel violated and sickened by their attitude. I think I have had a lucky escape not to work for them. Good riddance.
Annoyed, Yorkshire, UK
I usually post with a handle anyway! And any horrible arguments I've had with people have been via email, I'm not mad enough to post stuff like that on googlable forums.
Although I did post something about yoghurt on the BBC HYS forums the other day, under my real name.
Woe is me!
starling, Lancaster,
The trick is to either use a common name (which could be your own) or a pseudonym while blogging or such. Unless there are specific unique behaviours or traits associated with you, your name will be lost in the shuffle. If you want to check your "needle in a haystack" factor, google your own name and see how many times you come up. If you can't spot anything up there to uniquely identify you, you're probably safe.
This applies to individuals as well as corporates trying to find things about you. Generally most places like MySpace and Livejournal will not release confidential data to either party. It goes against their ethos.
Your picture and name are probably the worst things to have associated with you. If you show one, don't show the other together - or, if you do, don't reveal anything incriminating that you don't mind being associated with you. It could be an idea to create fake data on yourself for a job interview with this method! While keeping your "rant" journal anonymous.
Cailean Darkwater, Adelaide, Australia
In life there are givers and takers, one would think that exhibitionists online were the givers - quite the reverse.
rob, faversham, uk
What do people expect? you put on-line your most intimate thoughts or most embaressing moments for everyone in the world with an internet connection to see and then you complain when your future employer checks it out?! I work in recruitment and know for a fact that people aren't always honest in interviews.
As for Maggie in Bittany, remember, it's not just the company reading your reviews, there's also freaks and weirdos out there who also know as much about you as the person giving the interview!!!
Jut, London,
Anything that is put on the internet, even in "private" posts, is effectively shouted from the rooftops. Expectations of any real degree of privacy are quite naive.
It could be thought of as a bit like reading someone's diary, but only after they've published it first.
Chris, Derby,
Nonsense, utter nonsense. Employers are given rules against invading one's personal life worldwide in countless different professions. Just because the technology is available doesn't justfiy using it for employment purposes. I have the right to a personal life and employers have strict rules about it not affecting your work already in place, which employees are expected to follow. It takes a special kind of arrogance to work dilligently for a company to enforce a rule they have no qualms of not following themselves.
Ease up, you uptight blokes. :P
Sage Collins, Long Beach, CA, USA
Surely the simple solution is to take off all web content relating to yourself, for a brief period, until the application process has been completed?
Stew, Worthing,
This is probably the first time in my life that I'm glad I have a very generic name.
John F, London,
dirty!!!
dionersour, luzhou, Chinese
Surely users should just set their My Space and Facebook profiles to private and have a fairly sensible main profile picture.
Sarah, Nottingham, UK
Nice try James we're onto you. The clumsy use of capitals is a bit much don't you think?
Allen, Roswell, USA
Yes I was Googled & shocked when I was told that all my comments
& reviews came up.
It would never have entered my mind to do such a thing, it seems
sneaky in the extreme , like looking into someone's diary.
Had the person in question asked, I probably would have laughed & said
go ahead you wont find anything, but to be told about myself by a stranger was a bit unnerving & has now coloured my comments , meaning I feel
have lost my anonimity .
Maggie, Brittany , France
You will never take me alive!
Mr X, London, Uk
NetRep, "digital dirt", and folks basically arming themselves with info from the net somehow mad the phrase "I.T. Wars" jump into my mind. Sure enough, when I Amazoned it, there is indeed a book called "I.T. Wars" (subtitle, Managing the Business-Technology Weave in the New Millennium). In reading some reviews and excerpts (on Amazon), it seems the author covers quite a bit of this stuff - and then some... I ordered it.
Frank, Baltimore, MD
James is not my real name, so I'm safe.
James, london, uK
I was going to respond to this, but I don't want to mess up my chances if I apply for a job at the Times.
Thom Payne, Lincoln, NE, USA
Ah! Ah! At last the age if perfect information about employers and employees is here (read supply and demand)...
A Smith. Now burling in his grave.
Jim Moore, Nizwa, Oman