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Top marks in the new Advanced diploma for 14 to 19-year-olds will be worth more than three A levels, the Government confirmed yesterday in a move plainly designed to boost acceptance of the new qualification among middle-class families and universities.
The diplomas, which will be introduced next year, are designed to end the divide between practical and academic learning. Ed Balls, the Schools Secretary, hopes that they will become the “jewel in the crown” of the education system, making the A level redundant.
Confirmation of the new scoring system for the diploma comes after a report last month from the Nuffield Review, led by the University of Oxford, which said that the introduction of the new qualification had been rushed and that middle-class families would continue to favour traditional courses, such as GCSEs and A levels, as long as they remained available.
Ministers believe that the diplomas, which will include practical skills, work placements and classroom learning, could replace A levels and GCSEs as the most popular courses in schools.
However, they have insisted that existing qualifications should stay until a review in 2013. The University and Colleges Admissions Service (Ucas) confirmed yesterday that the Advanced-level diploma would be worth a maximum of 420 Ucas points, compared with the 360 available for scoring top marks in three A levels.
By ensuring that the new diploma is broadly competitive with A levels, the Government has placed the diplomas firmly within the spectrum of routes for university entry.
Many universities stipulate that students must score a certain number of points to win places on degree courses. As diplomas will compete against A levels, getting universities to accept them will be crucial to their success. A survey this summer suggested that fewer than four in ten university admissions officers saw the diploma as a “good alternative” to A levels, although there are signs that the mood is gradually changing.
Anthony McClaren, the chief executive of Ucas, said it was encouraging that some universities were beginning to signal an acceptance in principle of the new qualifications. So far, at least seven universities, including Leeds and Nottingham, have said that they would accept the engineering diploma as a way on to relevant degree courses, providing that students also took a maths qualification.
Head teachers said that the new information from Ucas would encourage more students to choose to study for diplomas.
John Dunford, general secretary of the Association of School and College Leaders, said: “This will give a big boost to the recruitment of the diploma courses.”
Bill Rammell, the Higher Education Minister, said that the diplomas should be a preparation for “the most demanding university courses”. The diplomas will be offered from next year at 900 schools and colleges. They have been welcomed by several big businesses, including Land Rover, Vodafone and BT. The first five diplomas will be in construction, media, engineering, IT and health.
The Advanced diploma will be studied by 16-18 year-olds from next September and take two years to complete, the same time as three A levels. Students will also be able to study for a Progression level diploma, worth the equivalent of two A levels, or 300 Ucas points.
There will also be diplomas for 14 to 16-year-olds. The Foundation level diploma will be worth the equivalent of five GCSEs, grade A*-G. A Higher level diploma will be worth seven GCSEs, grade A*-C. Students can mix old and new by taking diplomas and GCSEs at the same time, or higher-level diplomas with A levels.
In order to provide 17 different diplomas alongside GCSEs and A levels, schools and colleges that have traditionally competed against each other for students will have to form partnerships to offer joint teaching of courses.
The Government announced an extra £1,000 funding yesterday for schools teaching diplomas to 14 to 16-year-olds to help the formation of such partnerships.
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It is very disconcerting to gain above 95% on an A-level exam and to have no proof that you excelled above those scraping an A at 80%.
Government is a body, which requires great elasticity when demanded, but it has not yet introduced the A*, which would exhibit a great divide in the A level results and their statistics and regain some of A levels' reputation.
And how will a single vocational diploma be more favourable to education in practical and academic terms, against 3 or 4 academic A levels? Surely if a diploma is worth 3 A levels, it ought to consume nearly as much time as them. If so, then how many students will undertake more than one Diploma when A levels are no longer a choice?
It was the same government, which made the astute decision to fractionate exams in modules namely to diversify student's choices. One of a few commendable steps reversed?
LG, London,
Stop all this talk of the 'new' replacing the 'old'; move on from those wanting change to those fighting against it and focus on the real issue. And that is whether these diplomas will prepare young people better than A levels for the world of work?
A levels or diplomas for many are just the next step in their eduaction i.e. getting to University and too many see that as the end result - it is not. Education is no longer an end unto itself, but it must now prepare young people to succeed in life which includes for almost all..work!
The real debate which needs answering, not just talking about, is what does our education system needs to deliver and I would argue, at a society level, it is individuals who can contribute into that society and for the individual it needs to be a ticket to a successful life and that for most means being able and knowing how to succeed in the work place.
Simon Reichwald, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
The best universities in England seldom if ever ask for UCAS points: when I was an admissions tutor we always asked for specific grades (e.g. AAB), and often specified the subject (so if your fourth A level was Media Studies, or Dance, forget it.) I doubt this will change.
John, London/UK,
The USA does have 7 out of the 10 best universities in the world (the other three are in the UK, as it happens) so it does have a credible claim to have the "best higher education system in the world". On the other hand, in proportion to population, 3 in the UK vs 7 in the USA is pretty impressive, so we in the UK may have an equally valid claim. As far as there being a "world of difference" between the best and the worst in the USA, that is also true in the UK - consider, for instance, Thames Valley University (say) and Cambridge!
Martin, Newmarket, Suffolk
The problem with the introduction of diplomas is that as is the typical British fashion it is being done on the cheap. A levels allow for the in depth study of of two or three subjects closely linked to a prospective degree course. The depth of the A level takes in the equivalent of the first year of a a continental 5 year degree. Now that depth will be diluted with many more subjects at diploma level but the length of the degree course in the UK will not be extended to 5 years.
It will be even more detrimental to to all science courses. This is an idea dreamed up by arts people.
Rick, London, United Kingdom
Joe Kolar: you say that the US has the 'best Higher Education system in the world'. You are deluded. The gap between, let us say, Williams College and Short Planks College is unbridgeable, and I suspect that you know it. When I taught for a US college (now a University) I was told that is I must NEVER fail a student, not matter how hopeless the student's work was. Believe me , Princeton and a respectable land grant University are not exactly on the same level.
Dectora, London, UK
Ok, am I really the only person who sees a problem with the fact that these diplomas are designed to "end the divide between practical and academic learning" - this divide is good. It means that people who want to do academic subjects can (without having to compete for places/teaching time with people who don't want to) and people who want to do vocational courses also can (without the same problem). I'm in my second year of college and enjoying my very much academic courses - I don't want to be forced into doing vocational stuff, any more than someone who wants to do vocational construction might want to be forced into studying English Lit and History. It's also worth remembering that the UCAS tariff, while not pointless, is not actually commonly used for offering places at Uni - I only know one person who has had a single offer based on tariff points rather than A Level grades
sam, farnham, uk
Most good universities (that I've seen) don't do the tariff points- you have to get at least the minimum grades required or you don't get in, because there have been problems with people who've just done extra AS levels or something to get the number of points required.
They also said that a small number of those GNVQs(?) would be worth 16 GCSEs a few years ago, but they're virtually worthless
Bryony, London,
There is no point declaring by fiat that a vocational qualification in vehicle maintenance is worth a Maths A level.
If you want to design car engines you have to be comfortable with differential calculus. That's beyond what most people can do, but the average person can learn enough to maintain engines designed by someone else, according to instructions written by someone else. It's a perfectly honest way of earning a living, but not of equal status to engineering.
Malcolm McLean, Bradford, UK
It's interesting to read about your struggles with different types of high school diplomas. In the States, students receive a general high school diploma, academic ability is determined by national college entrance exams using either the ACT or the SAT. Colleges and Universities look at these scores, the students GPA and the quality of the high school attended to determine admission.
We have the best higher education system in the world and have one of the worst secondary systems of any industrialized country. We need all the help we can get. Maybe our educational leaders should watch what is happening in the UK. Maybe it could help a failing, government supported, public school system in desperate need of improvement.
The Bush "No Child Left Behind" policy is a failure and hopefully a new administration will bring much needed improvement to US education at the secondary level.
Joe Kolar, LaGrange, USA / Illinois
Equivalent to three of the current A levels? Ah.....5 old GCE's then.
Judy , Liverpool, england
This report does not pick up what appears to be a deliberate mis-statement by the Schools and Children Department given the BBC gives the same account.
Tue the diplomas will be worth up to 420 points compared with 360 for 3 A levels but A level students typically take a fourth subject at AS level in their first year, worth up to 60 points. So an A level programme is worth, surprise, surprise, up 420 points.
The Government should have said the two programmes have equal worth and their intention is to achieve parity of esteem. Why didn't they say this?
Mike Cushman, London,