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Middle-class parents who spend thousands of pounds on private school fees should be prepared to find more money for their children’s university education, the Chancellor of Oxford said yesterday.
Lord Patten of Barnes, the former Governor of Hong Kong, said that such parents “should not object to being asked to pay rather more on university”.
He told independent school head teachers at the Headmasters’ and Headmistresses’ Conference (HMC) that universities should be allowed to charge limitless tuition fees.
Lord Patten, who was a Conservative education minister under Margaret Thatcher, criticised the “intolerable” cap set by the Government, which restricts university top-up tuition fees to a maximum of £3,000 annually.
Addressing the HMC’s annual conference in Kensington, West London, he said that the independent sector could feel “pretty pleased with itself”.
He added: “Your own cup runneth over. The choices that so many parents make [in sending their children to independent schools] may be deplored, but parents seem to be behaving rationally.
“They can pay money to purchase what they reckon is a better education with smaller classes, more teachers, less disruptive children, a broader curriculum, more facilities, better results. Is that a fair picture? Not entirely. Is it what many parents think? Yes, it is. Are they wrong? Too often, alas, they have it exactly right.
“The unacceptable feature is that for all the public money, for all the rhetoric, for all the well-meaning effort, our maintained secondary schools are not better. That is what we should focus on, not the rights and wrongs of the purchase of a good education.”
Lord Patten, who is also Chancellor of the University of Newcastle, said that Oxford and Cambridge endured “populist venom” and were an “easy cheap shot for left-wing politicians on a quiet weekend”.
Universities should be concerned with widening participation, he said. He added, however, that they “should not be treated like local social security offices”, saying that universities could not “make up for the deficiencies of secondary education”.
It was difficult for Oxford and Cambridge to take on more students from state schools, he said, while the proportion of them achieving A grades in traditional subjects, when compared with independent schools, remained the same.
Meanwhile, a new report suggests that independent schools achieve the highest academic standards because they are free from government interference, not because they choose the brightest pupils.
The research by Professor Alan Smithers and Dr Pamela Robinson, of the University of Buckingham, claims that even when selection by ability and background is taken into account autonomy is the more crucial factor.
“Interviews with head teachers indicate that the key feature of autonomy is that it enables teaching and learning decisions to be taken close to the classroom, rather than being handed down through central directives,” they said.
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As a current 3rd year student enrolled on a Psychology course, I would not begrudge the cost if I could see where it was used. I have only 6 hours of contact time per week. I appreciate that university is geared toward independent learning, but this seems absurd! Especially as all this involves...
Helen O'Hara, Colchester,
... is being read to from a sheet, directly copied from the course text. What a waste of my time and theirs! Even then I have to pay for said sheet on top of my course fees.
It just doesn't seem justified at the current level, let alone a higher cost.
Helen O'Hara, Colchester,
The state benefits from people attending university as the country needs well educated skilled employees. So it should pay for a first degree like it used to. Tuition fees should be abolished and the numbers of students reduced - why do we need 50% going to uni? We need on the job training too.
Helen, Fleet, UK
Many parents, as we did, make considerable sacrifices to enable their children to attend independent schools, at the same time paying taxes to support the state system. There is no way we could have managed university as well. Lord Patten is pretty well-off, but not all are in his position.
Peter, Cambridge,
Government decreed the age of majority to be 18, bringing full legal independance, so why is my income anything to do with the contract between the university and my daughter?.
Seems like double standards to me.
Richard, Worcester,
We already pay vast amounts to school our children (nursery fees: at least £10k/year, school fees can be even more), so why are people so opposed to university fees? In my opinion, it would benefit society more to reduce nursery fees and let university students take responsibility for their own ed.
Ben Holmes, Cambridge,
I paid for my own university career and there were some spoilt public school kids who got student loans but were able to stick them in a high interest account, whilst Daddy paid their fees, but I still think this is ridiculous. Not everyone who sends their kids to public school is made of money!!
Gemma, Burton-on-Trent,
Lord Patten's remarks would have more effect if universities did what they contract to do. They take public money but do not have consistant arrangements for students with disabilities, complaints systems and to quote the HEFCE Chief Executive,'the degree grading system is not fit for purpose'.
James, Corwen, UK
The irony is that university fees and better access to higher education do not necessarily clash as objectives. If you look at the US system the large endowments accrued, ensure that universities are independent AND provide more financial aid than their UK counterparts. SET THE UNIVERSITIES FREE
Alexander James Hamilton, University of Oxford,
It really angers me when people discuss money as if everyone has plenty to spend. University should be free to all who want to attend, when I asked the government to have an option for people to pay fees after university I didn't expect Tony Blair to abuse this idea. Makes my blood boil!
Richard, Bristol, UK
Its ok for Lord Patten of Barnes to make this statement. He can afford to send his children to private schools and to a increased fee oxbridge. Students who went to a normal school like myself would suffer, I recieved 4 A's at A level, but couldnt afford to go to Oxbridge if they increased fees too.
Sarah, Cambridge,
Parental income should be irrelevant for university fees. Students are adults and therefore independent (or pathetic and not deserving of a place). Fees should be higher, to reflect the economic cost of the education, but they should be levied on all students, irrespective of background.
John Scott, London,