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This week, David McNicoll, who has just completed an English degree gives us his lowdown on Durham University.
Being a student in Durham:
Durham is a small city that feels dominated by its student population. It is virtually impossible to separate the campus and the city, with university buildings extending right through the city centre. Despite - or perhaps because of – this, relations between students and locals can be on the frosty side. A genuine North-East accent will get you all sorts of benefits, with shop-keepers, bar-staff and taxi drivers bending over backwards to help you. An attempted Geordie accent - how-weigh the lads pet like – is more likely, however, to simply get you bent over backwards.
The city centre hosts the likes of Topshop, Miss Selfridges, River Island and Monsoon, but only small outlets of each. Fashionistas and shopaholics are likely to be more impressed by the MetroCentre, Europe’s largest shopping and leisure centre, 15 minutes by train from Newcastle, and containing over 300 shops.
Within Durham itself there are chain stores such as Waterstone’s, WH Smith and HMV, and numerous quirky smaller shops. The Indoor Market can always provide a surprising afternoon, while real finds come at the more traditional market held in the town square on weekends, and always worth a visit.
There are numerous places to eat from bog-standard fast-food joints (Burger King / McDonalds) to upmarket slower-food joints (Pizza Hut /Pizza Express) to restaurants with pasta like mama used to make (Emilios / Ristorante de Medicis). There is a curious lack of curry houses, an abundance of Italian eateries and a preposterous number of Greggs bakeries. Happy hour meals in places such as Emilios can come to as little as £4 a head – elsewhere expect to spend about a tenner on dinner.
The size of the city means you don’t have to worry about transport. Everyone in Durham walks everywhere - a gentle stroll will get you from any of the colleges to the centre, main library and both the science and humanities lecture sites well within thirty minutes, with most people “budgeting” for more like twenty. If you’re feeling particularly lazy a taxi will get you across town for less than £4. Buses connect the city to places like Newcastle and Sunderland, while Durham is on a train line connecting London, York and Edinburgh among others.
However, you should beware of boasts that Newcastle is “just down the road”. The train journey is only 15 minutes and a return ticket is well under £4 with a Young Person’s Railcard. Yes, this means day-trips to the Toon are cheap and easy, but getting back to Durham can sometimes be a problem, with the transport less than reliable, especially with regards to the last train.
The College System:
Durham has a collegiate system, meaning that every student belongs to one of 16 colleges. As physical places, each college acts as the living place of all its first year students and many others, with all the facilities you would expect in university halls. However, you remain a part of your college (on an administrative and spiritual level) even when you move out of the actual place for your second year. This is because each college has its own student organisation for deciding about the running of the college and its own sports teams.
There is fierce inter-college banter when it comes to sport, but relationships between students at different colleges have been known to blossom. Pride in your own college - indoctrinated into you during freshers’ week - is encouraged, but you quickly come to realise that there’s not much truth in the stereotypes. Certainly any rumours you’ve heard about the type of person who goes to certain colleges shouldn’t put you off applying anywhere. Surprisingly enough, everyone at Mary’s is not a lesbian and there are people at Hatfield whose Daddies do not own half of Hampshire. And, yes, University College is based in the Castle and the Castle was used in the Harry Potter films.
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I graduated in 1993 and still hold the fondest memories...but my main point is that I found the locals to be very friendly and welcoming and went drinking with some. It is like everything in life - if you treat people with respect and you are polite you normally find that this is reciprocated.
Al Scullion, Derby,
Durham is fantastic. Came as a mature student at 25, have had the time of my life. College (Cuth's) have been fantastic. Course is brilliant(combined social science) staff are unparralled, support excellent....what more can I say. Loved it!!!!
Tamara, Isle of Wight, UK
20% of Durham students are based here at Queen's. You cannot write four pages on Durham and a small section on Stockton, typical main campus snobbery, they don't realise we're just as important and perhaps this is the main reason why it's taken so long to get Durham back up towards the top 10!
Jonny, Stockton,
I was there in the Eighties. In retrospect, I can't see the attraction of doing the middle-class stuff most Durham students will be doing for the rest of their lives in the brief flower of their youth.
It's a tedious place, both as a town and a univeristy.
Look elsewhere.
Michael, Athens
Michael, Athens, Greece
I agree with Johnny Marr the Queens campus set shouldn't be looked down on because we are not at the main campus. I'm a memeber of Snow but to be honest all my friends are in Stevo which is weird because of the hatred they filled us up with during freshers week. We are in no way a Polytechnic!
Imriel Morgan, Stockton-on-tees,
I went to St. Chad's college which I would recommend for anyone who would like a close-knit student community where you feel part of a group very quickly! I graduated in 2002 and had three fantastic years in Durham! I loved every minute of it, apply now!
Y Lintner, London,
I went to Durham (way back) in the 1970s.... it still sounds basically the same but with more mod cons. I agree that the location is fantastic, but it is a very "ivory tower" setting: unfortunately I think I only appreciated this afterwards!!
Joan, Milan, Italy
Don't listen to anyone who puts Snow and Stephenson Colleges down, we're proud colleges (i'm a fresher at Stephenson) and even though we're not in Durham itself, we feel just as much a part of Durham as anyone else, it's a much less tense atmosphere, better facilities and residences and we aren't all public school boys and girls. Durham is a fantastic Uni and anyone who applies for it will enjoy it so much.
Jonny Marr, Stockton-on-Tees (Stephenson),
In response to Joel at the bottom of the thread;
"Don't go to Durham" - what a stupid thing to say. Are the readers of your comment going to be swayed by someone who clearly cannot adapt and settle to their environment ("I did two years at Aberdeen Uni before transferring here")?
I have just graduated from Durham and despite some reservations (yes, the public school feel to the colleges and sadly my course did not live up to my expectations) I had the time of my life and I am so sad to have left.
Whatever type of person you are there is a place for you in Durham --- all you have to do is show a little personal integrity and independence.
Well done to the writer; a very fair and realistic account of the best university city in the country!
Emma, Leeds, Yorkshire
I was interested by the comments made in this article for many reasons, not least that my daughter is about to embark on the whole "looking for uni" thing soon. However, as a local (albeit not having been back for about a couple of centuries), I found the comments about accents and fitting in with the locals rather superficial : I would have expected David McNicoll to know better, given that he is now an alumnus. Durham IS NOT ANYTHING to do with the group most people call Geordies !! They are from the Newcastle area. Durham people are simply Durham people, and anyway, the accent is completely different to antone with a discerning ear (which I would have hoped he had attuned in the time spent there).
I have always found it insulting to be labelled a Geordie, although I am happy to acknowledge my North Eastern roots.
Those who are pleasant are like that because they are simply pleasant people - it has bugger all to do with the accent!
Fearabbit, Exeter,
Joel Howells is partially correct in that that many, but not by any means all, of the people running the University are insufferable vulgarians with MBA's. However the colleges are emphatically not glorified halls of residence. With the exception of the former Polytechnic at Stockton and the new Josephine Butler college, which have the architectural charm of an airport departure lounge and which are more like halls of residence, the established colleges do a great deal in terms of admissions, pastoral care, library and academic provision and provide students with a network of friends and tutors that serve them for the rest of their lives. A great deal of behind-the-scenes work goes on at the colleges, at both student and staff levels, to thwart the Philistines who do wish to turn the colleges into halls of residence. Outside of Oxbridge very few academic institutions come close to providing the all-round education offered by Durham and its colleges.
Michael, Durham, UK
The whole public school thing really does depend on which college you go to. I would say, in general, you tend to find that the "hill" colleges (Mildert, Trevs, Collingwood) have more state school students, and the "bailey" colleges (castle, hatfield) have more private school students ("Rahs" as the more pashmina and pearl wearing ones are coined!). OK, I would agree that OVERALL there is a slightly greater proportion of pupils with a private school background, but in my experience it's pretty much down to chance how surrounded you are by this (the corridor you get placed in, who you happen to sit by in your lectures,etc etc). Your friends are your friends, and you can choose who to socialise with, so if you have a problem with private school people, or vice versa, then move on. I certainly wouldn't say it's a "concern". Variety is the spice of life after all :)
Jacqui, Durham Uni,
I definitely think it's a good idea to look around a few colleges before applying to one, but don't get stressed or spend too long deciding. Just get a vague idea of the size and atmosphere and if it seems OK then go for it. Everything changes once you get there, and you can't predict this at all. I know people who love and hate (well, never hate, but you know what I mean!) the same college, and it all depends on your friends and where you happen to be placed in your corridor. Most of these things are down to chance, and you can't plan for them at all. And if it all goes wrong you can change college once you get there anyway!! :)
Jacqui, Durham Uni,
"the fact that the Oxfam has just been replaced by a Jack Wills store serves to highlight this"
This is a silly thing to say. The Oxfam shop was located in a premium location for no particular reason and has now relocated to a new shop with (presumably) lower overheads and a more suitable layout; Jack Wills has moved into the old Oxfam building. To my mind this is not the same as replacing Oxfam.
However, the concerns about the public school nature of the university are certainly well-founded in my experience.
James, Durham,
I would have to echo Katherine's comments. I am a student who is about to enter his final year in Modern Languages at Collingwood College in Durham and am pleased that I chose Durham over places such as Nottingham and Leeds because I wanted to be a part of the collegiate system and all the camaraderie that comes with it. However, there is a strange feeling that you are part of a enormous public school-like insitution where everybody has more than you and, while this is a generalisation, the fact that the Oxfam has just been replaced by a Jack Wills store serves to highlight this. However, if you are an active, sporty student (ie you want to study at the same time as doing all those studenty things), you could do a lot worse than spend a few years in such beautiful and historic surroundings.
Chris, Bracknell, BERKSHIRE
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rick, durham,
I got accepted but didn't go to Durham - I regret this with regards to the course but not the town. I'd recommend a visit before you decide on Durham, for me it was a deal breaker, but for a friend of mine who didn't like 'the sound of it', it totally changed her mind and she loved her time there.
Kat, Manchester,
Pretty but not for people trying to move away from a public school feel...
Katherine, Llandudno,
Having experienced life in both American Halls of Residence and Durham Colleges, I can categorically say that there is an immense difference between the two. Durham colleges provide a unique atmosphere that is not as closed-off as Oxbridge colleges but still retain an incredibly strong sense of community. The sense of loyalty and pride in your college (and college bar) is certainly something to behold.
Any frostiness in town/gown relations, is almost certainly created by a minority of idiot 'rahs' who are stupid enough to be continually disparaging about those not as fortunate as themselves.
Ali B, Essex,
I love Durham. There are hundreds upon hundreds of societies and being in a college really gives you a sense of community. Admittedly there are a lot of "rahs" here, some of whom can be unbearable, but I have also met plenty of nice and interesting people. The student bars are aall really cheap and, unlike most universities, who generally just have their Union bar, there are a lot of them. Thus, bar crawls can be really cheap! This can lead to a lot of drunken behaviour but nearly all of it is good natured. I sometimes pity the residents, though - I beautiful historic city is swamped by pretentious students in term-time and nearly deserted in the holidays.
Jessica Elkin, Dorset,
Durham is a fabulous place to live and study. The City is beautiful and the collegiate system is a bonus - students get the social benefits of living with hundreds of other people, doing different things, whilst being able to mix with your subject peers from other colleges in lectures/tutorials. The uni has an excellent reputation as the standard of teaching is very high. What's more: Newcastle is just up the road, beer's cheap and there's a wealth of great scenery on the doorstep. What more could students want? I was very sad to leave.
c smith , london,
The Castle was not used in the Harry Potter the films. The Cathedral one hundred yards across Palace Green was used for filming.
Don't go to Durham - the colleges are glorified halls of residence and the people running the university tend to be insufferable vulgarians with MBAs who have never been academics and have no appreciation of tradition. I did two years at Aberdeen Uni before transferring here and there really is little difference.
Joel Howells, Durham/South Shields, United Kingdom