Valerie Elliott, Consumer Editor
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With as many as 27 village pubs closing every week, the Prince of Wales has taken up the cudgels on behalf of beleaguered locals across the country, pointing out the pub’s importance to society and local economies.
He has invited Hilary Benn, the Rural Affairs Minister, to accompany him today on a visit to The Black Swan Hotel in Ravenstonedale, Cumbria, to see how an ailing pub can transform its fortunes.
Two years ago The Black Swan was run down and for sale. However, under its new owners, Alan and Louise Dinnes, the pub has a turnover of more than £600,000 a year and is an essential part of the community.
Mrs Dinnes said that they knew from the outset that they could not rely on drinks sales for an income. She said: “We knew, too, it was important to be part of the local community. So we asked people what they would like us to do and got them involved.
“We have put in broadband and there is free internet access. We have installed a coffee machine and provide newspapers each day.”
With a £6,000 grant from the Prince’s Business in the Community programme the couple have converted a downstairs bedroom into a new general store, which is now a showcase for local food, crafts and gifts.
The Prince’s “Pub is the Hub” campaign, which began six years ago, was intended to ensure the viability of what are seen as essential amenities in rural areas. Already about 350 English pubs have benefited from small grants and expertise offered by his Business in the Community scheme. However, an industry survey claims that traditional pubs are disappearing at the rate of 4 a day. Many villages face the prospect of becoming permanently “dry”, but the threat is just as great to pubs in town and suburbs.
The British, Beer and Pub Association (BBPA) says that at least another 1,000 will close before the end of this year. The rise in duty in the Budget is the catalyst for the latest gloom among Britain’s publicans, who number about 57,000. The credit squeeze had already depressed takings this year and comes on the heels of the smoking ban, increased red tape and promotions of very cheap alcohol by supermarkets. Caroline Nodder, editor of The Publican, said: “Publicans just feel they have been stabbed in the back.”
David Cameron said that the Conservatives would tackle red tape. He also urged people to stop complaining about losing pubs and start visiting them. He said: “If you want to keep your local pub you have to use it.”
Mr Benn also offered support. He said: “The rural pub is more than just a business, it is the heart of the rural community.”
Among the 27 pubs that will close this week is the Roseneath in Gillingham, Kent, where Helen Dodson called time yesterday after 20 years in the business. Ms Dodson said that the smoking ban had made life difficult, but cheap alcohol in supermarkets had been the final straw. “We used to get 50 or 60 in a night and now it’s 10 to 15,” she said. “I really lay the blame on cheap supermarket alcohol.”
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I wish the owners well with their venture, however the Black Swan was already transformed by the previous owners. My wife and I visited the Inn a few years ago and it was very quiet.
Then we went again a year later and the place was buzzing. This was before the current owners took over, run down it certainly had been, but not immediately before Mr & Mrs Dinnes took over. It is a shame that they could not give credit to the previous owners for putting life back into the Black Swan
Mike Bowler, Bournemouth, UK
Fewer, better pubs? If only that were the case. The "local" is being replaced by soulless beer barns that have zero atmosphere and where people don't intermingle.
Smokers are staying away, or at least, not visiting as often an the repercussions are being felt.
RTS, Worcester, UK
If you'll allow a foreigner to have a say, there is some truth to everything said. I've always agreed with the smoking ban but not a total smoking ban. I think there should be Smoke Bars, similar to the Cigar Bars found in New York City. A bar whose primary purpose is smoking. They would sell cigars, cigarettes, and alcohol.
In addition were possible existing Pubs could have a separate and isolated smoking room. If you choose to go in the smoking room, no whining or crying about smoke or it's ill affects will be allowed, nor will any law suits.
Next, indeed Pubs need to adapt. They need to modify themselves to more family friendly and youth friendly establishments. As can be seen above in the example of The Black Swan.
The prices need to be reasonable. You can set the prices as high as you please, but remember, we don't have to pay if we don't want to.
Sadly too many businesses have become money printing machines, but tend to forget where that money comes from.
Steve, MN, USA
In the 1970s, at the the height of recessionary times, the number of pubs did not contract, but in fact expanded to a peak in 1979.
That is to say, when money was tight, unemployment higher than now, when the trade was suffering competition from cheap off-licence booze, when costs were high, when the breathalizer was being introduced; in other words, when all of those things that are NOW being alleged as causes for permanent pub closures - the pub trade expanded.
The only new element, in 2008, is the SMOKER BAN. The very vast majority of regular REAL PUB customers are also smokers. Rather, they were - up to July 2008. They are not there anymore; they were disowned by the trade and 'denormalised' by the government. Pubs are closing at an alarming rate.
Rocket science, isn't it?
Donal Mac, cork/chingford,
Mr Benn ... said: âThe rural pub is more than just a business, it is the heart of the rural community.â
If he really believes this then he is wallowing in the same 'neo-Gothic nostalgia' which, it seems, Charles permanently inhabits. Gone, mercifully, are the days when the 'rural community' packed into their smoke filled public bar rather than go home to their barely heated houses. Gone too the days when you could stop off for a couple of pints on the way home : most people no longer live and work locally so drinking and driving is a major issue.
The golden age of the traditional pub - if it ever existed - has gone. The social and commercial factors which sustained it have gone forever. It's sad that Monarchy and Ministers are apparently trying to turn the clock back rather than move forward.
john, Oxford, England
The Prince of Wales certainly has a genuine care for the people of Britain. He'll make a good King oneday.
Paul Martin, Brisbane, Qld. Australia
Is there any wonder that pubs go out of business when you consider the prices? It used to be a working person's regular pastime, a few hours in the pub. Not any more, it seems. I don't blame the landlords so much as the government and the breweries. I can't afford to drink in a pub, so don't. But I would if I could.
Apart from the prices, the ubiquitous gaming machines and loud widescreen tellies are driving away a lot of traditional drinkers who liked a pint and a natter to put the world to rights. There aren't any pubs any more - not many, anyhow.
Andy Armitage, Hebron, Whitland, West Wales, UK
Trust an Aussie to find culture in a wetherspoons.
Bob, London, UK
Fewer, better, pubs is a blessing. The best will be thriving.
Those that don't innovate, those that think that because the 'pub is the pillar of the community' it has some kind of divine right to exist, those that play victim and blame budgets, supermarkets, smoking bans, those - well they need to rethink.
Here's to Alan and Louise. Well done for thinking of your customers. And to those of you that are moaning, it's your choice, change or be forced to change, or look for another way to earn your living. What are you doing to make your pub somewhere 50 or 60 people a night want to go to?
Think about it before you answer!
Rose n'Crown, Chipping Sodbury,
I used to drink in the Roseneath mentioned in this article. Five years ago it was packed every night, but by this time last year (BEFORE the smoking ban) it was empty every night.
The price of drinks in pubs has not risen enough in five years to cause this change and the pubs were empty long before the smoking ban. There is simply a cultural change going on.
Gareth Rees, Gillingham, Kent
The smoking ban is similar to the invasion of Iraq. No thought given to the after effects.
chas, suffolk, england
Weatherspoons, a pub. Jesus, a Weathersoons 'pub' is a cost centre, revenue earner, not a part of the make up of community life. Avoid them at all costs, poor ale, Harvester/Little Chef menu and complete lack of atmosphere. But being British, the lowest common denominator is desirable. Mediocrity rules
jack Sodbury, bristol,
Any chance of Charles going to see some urban communities?
Chris, Birmingham,
Pubs are for men smokers not women. Wetherspoons are not pubs, but for the public and that includes women.
jane, Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire
Lets hope that pubs keep closing at this phenominal rate as it prepares us for New Labours dual objectives of Sharia Law and of course eliminating binge drinking.
A sobering thought too, that the bars might be shut in the Houses of Parliament.
Sober M.P.'s?
Doesn't that sound like a bridge too far?
jane bond, morecambe, england
wow, I love pubs but I can't think of 2 worse people to have a pint with than strange eco-freak Prince Charles and dull rich lefty Hilarity Benn.
Neil McF, Southampton, England
as a visitor to uk . regarding pubs. you only have to take weatherspoons as a classical excample. good quality food and drinks in a reasonable atmosphere. from 1 pub to 700 in 10 -11 yrs.
p williams, batemans bay, australia