Sarah-Kate Templeton, Health Editor
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The government will take on the medical profession this week by pressing ahead with reforms that will see greater power being transferred from doctors to nurses.
Alan Johnson, the health secretary, is expected to follow up plans to introduce at least 150 large health centres, known as polyclinics, by announcing an expansion of surgeries run by nurses. The centres will replace lone GPs, many of whom the government believes are unable to provide evening surgeries or other modern patient services.
This is likely to escalate a row between the government and doctors over reform. Lord Darzi, the health minister in charge of a review of the National Health Service, has accused some doctors of being “laggards” and protecting their “professional boundaries”.
Darzi has already said he wants to see nurses doing minor surgery in hospitals. This week he is expected to lay out proposals for more nurses to set up surgeries. They will be encouraged to establish not-for-profit firms to run the practices by being allowed to opt out of the NHS without losing pension rights.
Darzi will also outline plans to publish the death rates of hospital doctors so patients can compare their chance of survival according to who treats them.
Death rates at NHS hospitals are available for heart surgery. Success rates for about 50 other conditions are expected to be published on the internet to allow patients to shop around.
Patients are also expected to be given personal health budgets and will decide how the money is spent on treating long-term conditions, such as diabetes and heart disease.
An “NHS constitution” will set out patients’ rights and responsibilities, including the right to be told why they have been denied a drug a doctor recommends.
Johnson has admitted that access to NHS drugs is a lottery and will order the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (Nice), the government’s rationing watchdog, to assess drugs more quickly. He said: “What we have heard from patients is that one of their major concerns is the perceived ‘postcode lottery’ in access to drugs.
“The draft constitution will address this by making it explicit that patients have the right to Nice-approved drugs and treatment if clinically appropriate.
“We will also speed up the national process for appraising new drugs. If a decision is then taken not to fund a drug then your local NHS will have to explain that decision to you.”
Hamish Meldrum, chair of the British Medical Association, suggested the government’s plans for nurses to run surgeries would have limited impact because patients would choose to be treated by doctors.
Meldrum said: “There are obviously certain things that only doctors can do.
“It is all very well saying patients should have choice about where they are treated but there are certain treatments nurses cannot do, so there will be a limited choice. Patients usually prefer to see doctors.”
Peter Carter, general secretary of the Royal College of Nursing, said increasing numbers of nurses would run local surgeries in future.
Carter added: “We never want to get into confrontations over territory. However, good progressive doctors recognise there are roles for nurses who do highly complex work.”
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It's bad enough trying to get to see a Doctor now. I am always redirected to a nurse who in turn invariably directs me back to the Doctor. The only thing that happens is that you are sick for two days longer than you need to be.
judy, Liverpool, England
It sounded like a good idea until the bit that says "can opt out of the NHS" If the nurses opt out to run a business, we will end up in the same situation that we have with dentists. There will be no nurses left in the NHS and the people that need them will not be able to afford them.
Tom Henderson, Stapleford,
Here we go again. The government ignores experts and initiates another disaster. How do they think they can possibly know better? Perhaps they wasted a tranch of cash on a committee.
Charles Bockett-Pugh, Sandhurst,
We had these so called 'polyclinics' once before, they were called cottage hospitals then, run by nurses with doctors from local surgeries calling in. That was 50 years ago and I believe it was a Labour Government that closed them.
Paul, Rochester, UK
should butchers replace surgeons perhaps?
peter c, Devizes, Wessex
Honestly I don't know where we are going with these NHS reforms. What on earth is it for ? What will we get out of it ? What about all those unemployed junior doctors (18,000 of them) ? What about what the staff in the NHS think ? Why can't the government just make petrol cheaper instead ?
RR Welbury, York, UK
Classroom asistant in charge of classes, Community officers policing the streets, nurses in charge of Doctors surgeries, well its better than having clerks in charge of hospitals.
Dave, Derby, England
Can we relace Alan Johnson with a nurse ? That would be much better for patients, doctors, nurses, students etc. We could even pay nurses a bit more - they even work in a miserable environment now thanks to all these "reforms" and "changes".
M M Christie, York, UK
Does anyone think that a nurse who can qualify in 3 years can have anywhere near the amount of knowledge as a GP who requires almost 10 years to train??? Remember saving money wont necessarily save lives or improve care. Pay peanuts and you will get monkeys
JS Bains, Southall, UK
Isn't it time that we replaced Ministers, even the Prime Minister, with a more appropriate organization which is given the power to opt-out of any process of election and accountability, but yet whose members would preserve the right to ministerial pensions? Bye Lord Darzi and Alan Johnson et al....
Henryk Nowicki, Choppington, England
David, upon which figures do you base your analysis of PHC doctor salaries, as far as I am aware the only EU countries with similar provision to the UK are Ireland and Denmark? Jon has a very valid point: keep treating our doctors with this level of disdain and see their good faith towards us go!
peter johnstone, Hull, UK
Strikes me that this is simply driven by the fact that Nurses are cheaper then Doctors. Everything this cheapskate government does at the moment is driven by the fact that they have spent themselves into a hole and know that the country is virtually bankrupt.
Graeme, Warrington, UK
David
Sadly you have been mislead, the government included expenses (ie staff salaries, premises etc) as income, leading to an apparantly massive increase in pay, but an actual and very real reduction in take home!
Andy Bracegirdle, Manchester, UK
This is getting more and more ridiculous. Will somebody ask the patient as whether he wants surgery conducted by a Nurse or a doctor ? What happens to somebody training as a doctor.....everyone could now train as Nurses and few courses!!...as that is all that is required to treat and prescribe now !
S J P, Sheffield, UK
what happens if a nurse dosent pick up a rare condition or reaction that kills a patient and then blames it on lack of medical training? !!
will they be charged for manslaughter or will it be criminal negligence?
Andrew, london, uk
I agree that the government needs to break the overweening power of the medical profession and change the focus from self oriented decision making to patient and outcome focused decision making...but they need to ensure that enough nurses actually nurse ie help the patient feed and keep clean!
David Cartright, Birmingham,
Jon, as a GP you have had massive pay rises elevating you, with little improvement in working practices, to far and away the most highly paid in Europe. And with your total monopoly power and threatening hold over the government and the public you are now wanting even more pay from the tax payer??
David Cartright, Birmingham,
Doing surgery. What. Cutting off arms and legs?
You have a lousy health care system. I never would want to be
in a position where I needed health care in the UK.
Jerry Scroggin, Phoenix, Arizona/USA
Fantastic idea. As a GP I can't wait till the DOH totally mess up primary care and the private sector move in. Thats when I get paid what I am really worth as a professional rather than what a monopoly employer like the NHS dictates. God bless New Labour.
jon, London,
Will nurses be paid more by any chance for taking on these extra duties?
Stephen, St. Ives, England