Jill Sherman, Whitehall Editor
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Grossly overweight children may be taken from their families and put into care if Britain’s obesity epidemic continues to escalate, council chiefs said yesterday.
The Local Government Association argued that parents who allowed their children to eat too much could be as guilty of neglect as those who did not feed their children at all.
The association said that until now there had been only a few cases when social services had intervened in obesity cases. But it gave warning that local councils may have to take action much more often and, if necessary, put obese children on “at risk” registers or take them into care. It called for new guidelines to be drawn up to help authorities deal with the issue.
There have been some reported cases where children under 10 have weighed up to 14st (89kg) and a three-year-old has weighed 10st – putting them at a high risk of diabetes and heart disease. Only last week a 15-year-old girl in Wales was told by doctors that she could “drop dead at any moment” after tipping the scales at 33st.
David Rogers, the Local Government Association’s public health spokesman, said that by 2012 an estimated million children would be obese and by 2025 about a quarter of all boys would be grossly overweight.
“Councils are increasingly having to consider taking action where parents are putting children’s health in real danger,” he said. “As the obesity epidemic grows, these tricky cases will keep on cropping up. Councils would step in to deal with an undernourished and neglected child, so should a case with a morbidly obese child be different? If parents consistently place their children at risk through bad diet and lack of exercise, is it right that a council should step in to keep the child’s health under review?”
“The nation’s expanding waistline threatens to have a devastating impact on our public services. It’s a huge issue for public health, but it also risks placing an unprecedented amount of pressure on council services.”
The association called for a national debate on how much local authorities should intervene in obesity cases. As a basic minimum, social services or health visitors should talk to the families involved, give them advice and show them how to provide healthy meals. “But in the worst cases [the children] would need to be put on ‘at risk’ registers or taken into care.”
Last year Cumbria County Council put an eight-year old girl into care as she was dangerously overweight.
Anne Ridgway, of Cumbria Primary Care Trust, said that it was extremely rare for a child to be put into care just because of their weight. “Even then the care proceedings may well have been instigated because of related problems rather than exclusively because of their weight,” she said. Extreme cases of obesity could become a child protection issue because obesity “can have very serious consequences for a child’s health and the parental behaviour that leads to childhood obesity can be a form of neglect”.
Tam Fry, of the National Obesity Forum, said: “Children who are dangerously overweight should be brought into hospital, where they can be given 24-hour care for several weeks or months. But their parents should have access to them.”
The Conservative Party said that taking children into care was a serious step. Andrew Landsley, the Shadow Health Secretary, said that in many cases “it would be better to help the parents provide better nutrition for their child rather than break up the family”.
Deadly facts
— Councils are spending tens of thousands of pounds widening crematorium furnaces to deal with fatter corpses
— Standard coffins are between 16 and 20ins wide (40-50cm) but coffins twice that size are being ordered to fit larger bodies
— Lewisham Council has ordered a 44in cremator from America and is taking coffins from the Midlands. A furnace has just been installed at King’s Lynn, Norfolk, for coffins a metre wide and Blackburn is to buy a 42in cremator
— New ambulances have been introduced across Wales with special equipment for fat patients, including a winch and an extra wide strengthened stretcher
— Fire services are threatening to charge police or hospitals a fee if they are called in to move grossly overweight people out of dangerous buildings
— Many schools are having to adapt their furniture to cope with heavier, wider children. Each larger table and chair costs about £30
— It is estimated that nearly 2,000 people are too fat to work
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Give the 'we are so oppressed' rubbish a rest would you?
We live in a democracy where we have freedom of information (for the most part) and the freedom of choice.
It is because we are a nation of lazy bums who take no responsibility for our lives that actions like this have to be considered.
James, Manchester, UK
Why don't the Council's just legislate all of your lives? Check your minds and spirit at the door, please. You folks are just the unwashed masses. We, the elist rulers, will do everything for you.
Gods....if that's not Orwellian, I don't know what is.
Brian, West Islip, USA
In the United States, well-intentioned arrogant ignorant bureaucrats are our greatest danger to liberty. It should be a requirement of your government servants (as well as ours) to read through F.A. Hayek's "The Road to Serfdom". Using the force of government to solve any problem should be a well thought-out last resort.
Kevin, Napa, United States
Being an American who used to weigh 350 # or 160 kg. I realized diet was the problem. Today I am around 280# - I am a rather large fellow. 6'3" and a 60" chest, 20" arms. I stay away from soda, corn syrup, highly processed breads, gluten, etc. Demand better, cleaner foods.
jason, Lawrence, Kansas, USA
How about send the legislators to prison for letting fast food companies into your country? How about sending your legislators to prison for allowing our food to be combined with chemicals with no testing? Obesity isn't always overeating, it can be eating the same thing with chemical additives.
Richard, McLean,
Yet more hypocrisy from our political leaders. How many of these are overweight. I rest my case. I suspect if people dug a little deeper, they will find something even more sinister. How about child sexual abuse and if taken into care, some of them will never be seen again.
Steven, Newcastle, United Kingdom
And we all know how well councils bring up children in their care!!! There is a higher incidence of drug abuse, homelessness and unemployment amongst 'care kids'
Andy, London,
Why not put the children into labour camp? Or execute the parents? For God's sake - this is not the nanny state - it's National Socialism gone mad.
Jill, Bognor Regis,
And the obese children already in care - where should they go?
Diana, Derby, uk
Fat children should exercise!
Farrukh, Woking,
There will not be enough suitable potential employees who would want a job taking care of such kids. Enter stage left the child sex pervs who will exploit this weakness in yet another hairbrained PC fascist scheme. The busybodies will be so desparate for employees, the screening'll be a little lax
ste, manchester, uk
How about eliminating MSG and high fructose corn syrup from diets? That, along with teaching children that there is more to life than consuming.
Sal, Sedona, AZ, USA
What are you going to do with the fat Social Workers?
wilson, London, uk
Fascist Britain more like
Mike, London, UK
Wake up, Britain! You are rapidly descending into totalitarianism. If you don't reclaim your country soon, you will all be reduced to serfs. Sadly, we Americans are only a few years behind you. If we in the West don't find our inner William Wallace we are doomed.
Bob Phillips, Clarksburg, WV, USA
so this will end all problems?am ashamed to be a british citizen i mean is is all you people can come up with? instead y help should be provided to families such as someone who can give advice on healthy eating and arrangeing activities monitoring weight. sensible stuff .
rabia makhdumi, north finchley, uk
Judy ,
Stalin was not known for taking people into care, exactly the opposite. Training of the parents is the solution here .
Dave Madley, Alicante, Spain
What a great Idea!! On the assumption that there are thousands of obese kids , there are three main issues
1. Where will the children be cared for?
2. Who will look after them?
3. Who will pay?
Go help us all. Who are the lunatics that come up with these ideas? Education is the issue, not car
Dave Lathan, Carterton, UK
And just where will HM government locate the Gulag for the fat? Will there be any special requirments on the staff, such as a weight limit of 10 st, so all can serve as role models? Will the poor dears be brainwashed into emulating anorexics? Truly another instance of the death of common sense.
Dennis Eagan, Colorado Springs, US
I am horrified that councils are contemplating such action. Parents with obese children , need our help to adopt healthier lifestyles, make leisure facilities nicer and cheaper!! places to visit. and campagin for better food standards natonwide in our supermarkets. I agree with Marcella ohio
Anne, Belfast, Antrim
Hmmm, I'll bet the only fat kids taken into care come from single parent,on benefit type parents. Middle class families with fat kids wont be harrassed at all.
This country stinks. And guess what? We've all sat back and let successive governments erode our liberty like a load of neutered dogs.
Wendy Lamb, warrington, UK
My partner is a social worker, he is able to take children into care for being underweight, yet he has had children die of obesity before the age of 8, as he is not allowed to do anything to help these children, just watch as their parents slowly kill them. It is neglect, plain and simple.
Anne, Nottingham,
About five, perhaps ten parents need to be publicly whipped for letting thier precious snowflakes get so fat. At the same time, every member of this Local Gov't Assn. should be henceforth banned from ever serving in a public venue, and the press warned about quoting any of these hyper-statists.
Steve A., Louisville KY, USA
Lock everybody up!! Throw the key away!! You are all criminals!!!
But remember, we in China live in an oppressive state and we have little girls who sing others girls songs live on TV. Scandal!!!
Britain, you are really, really funny........
Pu Li, Guangxi, PRC
from the usa
....patients with Anorexia are typically hospitalized. Severely overweight children may also need hospitalization to get their situation under control ..The parents need access to their children and educating the entire family is critical to long-term success
well said
trish niblock, Edinburgh, Midlothian
And who is going to take over the care of these fat children, who -- thanks to the government, the "in" society and weight-loss marketers -- are loathed, derided and looked upon with disgust? It will only open the door to more abuse and less affection for these children by their hired caregivers.
Marcella, OHIO, USA
Strange ain't it. The same day we read about Newark council in Europe threatening to fine boys if they play football in the street. So the Local Authorities go out of their way to encourage obesity whilst Local Authority Social Services get to snatch obese kids into care. Funny that. So like Labour.
Richard England, Stockport, UK
They are actually cases of extreme neglect. If a parent allowed a child to become malnourised there would be an intervention by social services. These are extreme cases, no-one suggested that they would start rounding up all the chubby kids!
Tina10, Dublin, Ireland
shame on all of you! YOU let these people get away with it and now you cant stop it! They have enough power now so if you speak out against them they can have you put in jail for putting your trash to close to the curb or something!
Terry, Noblesville, U.S.
Given that being taken into care is probably a whole lot more damaging for the child than merely being fat, I can't see what purpose this policy serves apart from arrogating yet another power to the twits in the council.
william, ilkley,
Severely underweight patients with Anorexia are typically hospitalized. Severely overweight children may also need hospitalization to get their situation under control and receive education. The parents need access to their children and educating the entire family is critical to long-term success.
kami gray, Portland, USA
It is nice to know government has finally stopped crime dead in its tracks and have begun to tackle the real issues. I mean why worry about stabbings when there are fat kids running about, well I guess not really running, but you know what I mean.
Mike, Athens,
It's happening over here too. Kids are being told...
"Don't run, you'll fall and hurt yourself."
"Don't ride your bike,, there are predators out there."
"Don't play tag, someone will get hurt.'
"Organized sports are bad because they hurt people's feelings."
Is it any wonder why the kids are fat?
Sue, Dearborn, USA
Competitive sport in school is baned due to it "hurting kids feelings". Climbing treas and playing tag is baned because of health and safety. Running in park is banned due to fear of pedofiles lurking everywhere So tell me how are kids supposed to exercise when all is baned due to political maddnes?
Mike, bristol,
We sanction a state which is legally obliged to intervene, to protect children at risk. Parents who have chosen not to take responsibility for the health of their children, & put them at risk, so the state has to intervene have, per se, chosen to give up responsibility for their children. Mea Culpa.
chris reed, carlisle, uk
If these parents cant feed their kids proper food I dont suppose there be bothered if the kids are taken away. I remember the scenes when a school banned junk food and some of the so called parents were passing burgers and chips over the school fence. That says it all really.
Lee, Harlow,
How about investigating the underlying causes of the obesity and the depression and truma that the child must have gone through to end up feeling compelled to eat that much. You don't get to that size just by being told to eat up their are starving children in africa.
bob, Worksop, uk
In the same respect shouldn't underweight children be taken into care as well???
Welcome to the nanny state.
Ian Upton, Bolton, England
I was incredibly shocked to read this. There is no scientific basis to evaluate childhood obesity in such stark terms. Studies after studies have shown that crass interventions such as enforced activity, changing an 'obesogenic' environment or low-fat diets have absolutely no long-term impact.
Heike, London,
Personally, I'd like to see the children of drug addicted parents being taken into care.
Linda, Fife,
bring back food rationing!
chris, manchester,
Next they should start locking up the fat blobby parents as well!
David Franks, Chonburi , Thailand
Are there any fat rich people?
Maggie, Reading, UK
Who Next ? "the disabled this country is getting more like Nazi Germany every day"
Gerry Murphy, Lisburn, Antrim
The 'state' has run out of control. How many contributors in these forums need to point it out before it is accepted as a trruth?
The pigs are already running the farm. You need to see the truth!
Edwin, Bucharest,
And just how is our awful care home system going to improve the lives of these children?
Ian, London, UK
I can see it won't be long before we'll be taken off thee streets to be weighed and measured and sent to fat camps to slim if we don't measure up. We need to take a stand on this issue - it is not illegal to be fat.
JW, Spalding, UK
Stop making junk food so readily available. There are too many fast food restaurants on our streets. If it is there, people seem unable to resist. So take the temptation away. I parked my car at a shopping mall car park the other day, and was immediately confronted by 5 large snack machines !
Taz, Hants,
And what about fat, useless MPs?
Can we lock these away as well?
Mike Jones, Farnborough, Hampshire
And what about those that are too thin, or those with brown hair or white skin... ve must strive for the perfect race, multi coloured, average weight with no brain or opinions, loyal to nulab.
I think our country "leaders" have totally lost the plot
Mike Jones, Farnborough, Hampshire
A bit rich from councils who sold of playing fields and failed to invest in other sports facilities for schools. They actively discouraged competitive sport. Looks like a plot to generate more social services posts to me.
Paul Groom, London, London
If councils are to take children, then they must make a case in open court where all parties are named, proceedings can be reported & miscarriages of justice reversed by appeal. The family courts that we currently operate with stasi-like secrecy are incompatible with justice, freedom & democracy.
George Miller, Basingstoke, England
More grotesque laws being enforced in this country without any legislation or Gov debate - may I remind this writer and your readers - It is not illegal to be fat so how can children be removed from families for being fat? Putting children in a failing care system where one 1/3 will end up in prison.
Layton, Neath, Wales
Perhaps rising food prices are not so bad after all....
Chris Davies, Sheffield, United Kingdom
15 y.o. girl with 33st (~209 kg) of weight!? Poor child! What are thinking her parents about!?
Imants, Ventspils, Latvia
Perhaps these power mad councillors are the ones who need to be taken into care
Mark, newcastle, england
Stalinist Britain.
judy, Liverpool, England