Dr Tanya Byron Q&A
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I have always been very close to my mother, but find it increasingly difficult to tell her that I love her or show her how much she means to me. Between the ages of 6 and 9, I was sexually abused by both my brothers; my mum is the only person who knows this. I never want anyone else to know about this and, oddly, I get on very well with both my brothers, their wives and their children.
Sometimes I feel that all that went on was a dream and that I had a lovely childhood apart from this. I don't think it has left any permanent damage, but sometimes I wonder whether I am burying my head in the sand. I don't want to split up my family.
I have been married for five years and my husband knows none of this; we don't have any children. My mum often goes away on holiday with my dad, and while she's away, I think of all the things I'll say to her when she returns. But I'm always reserved. My mum found out what happened when I was 14; at my request, we never talk about it. I am normally open with everyone and very “lovey” with my husband, but find it more difficult with my mum. She does have medical problems and is disabled. I get frustrated with her condition (not with her) and wonder whether it may have something to do with this. I don't want this to dominate my life any more than it already has, and hope that you can help.
Harriet
What a heart-rending letter. I have worked with many people who have experienced sibling incest. They are in situations of intense and huge pain where the abuse from childhood is still played out via the extreme rage within the family system - such issues are hurtful and debilitating to all concerned. Over time there needs to be a measured and containing approach to enable anger to decrease and talk to begin. What is so difficult about your experience is that you have this extreme dichotomy - on the one hand, all in the family are seemingly happily settled in relationships. On the other, you have this secret, a memory of behaviour between you and your brothers that is at odds with how you all are now.
The only person who ever knew but has never spoken about what she knows is your mother and while it is clear that you love her, I suspect that your difficulty in being spontaneously emotional with her is a throwback to residual feelings about how she managed (or didn't) your feelings when she found out about the abuse.
The rate of sibling incest is estimated to be much higher than that of adult-child incest, although reliable estimates are difficult, as often the incestuous relationships are never talked about or acknowledged, such is the shame that comes with it.
There are many reasons why sibling incest will occur and these will range from experimentation to a need for affection within a family in which there are other conflicts and difficulties, tensions and stresses.
To be sexually abused as a child violates a person physically and emotionally. Often it leaves children and the adult survivors with deep problems forming safe and nurturing relationships because their early, key experiences crossed the boundaries that enable healthy trust and dependence within relationships.
What is positive about your story is that you are managing to have a relationship with a man. I suspect, however, that you are sometimes conflicted because he knows nothing about an experience as significant as this.
You ask if you are sticking your head in the sand by not speaking out about the incest that occurred. To be blunt, the person who has stuck her head in the sand is your mother and that is why I think you find it so difficult to be affectionate with her - because at the very core of this whole experience she, on one level, let you down - I believe this is what is so difficult for you to get over.
I know that you requested (at the age of 14) that your mother not speak to you about what happened but I believe you did that to protect her as much as anything else. Your mother should have had the courage to support you over the years - even if just to acknowledge that she knows and thinks about what has happened and wants to check how you are feeling.
You need to talk these issues through with people who will not judge but understand, and have similar experiences. Contact: NAPAC (the National Association for People Abused in Childhood): 0800 085 3330; www.napac.org.uk. Also CIS'ters (Childhood Incest Survivors) is a support service for women who were sexually abused as children, mainly by members of immediate or extended family - 023 8033 8080. Supportive conversations will enable you to process all that happened to you and also to decide who you want to talk to within your family (including your husband). Most of all, you need support to talk confidentially about how you feel about your mother and think about whether you want to address these issues with her or can forgive her and so move on.
On a different note, some readers may recall Anna, whose letter about the abuse she suffered at the hands of her mother's boyfriend, was published here in February. Her story had a huge response and we forwarded many of your e-mails and letters of advice. Anna wrote to us recently to say that she had contacted womens aid.org, as advised, which helped her move away from home and to instigate the correct legal proceedings. She thanked us all for our collective help. It is a nice reminder that despite my sometimes desperate letters, the endings can be happy.
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Sexual abuse is a result of a lot of other stress in family or social situations. We can never restrict everything in such situations but what can handle these problems is the presence of a patient and loving listener. My suggestion to sexual abuse victims is to confide about everything to sm1 u lov
Debasish Roy, New Delhi, India
Such a Sad Story, my thoughts are with you.
Hopefully this can encourage a lot of others to come forward and report the Crimes of those People who do these Sick things
To all the Victims out there, Come Forward, although i am not a Victim, i can openly say a lot of people are here for you and care
Abdul Basit, Lancashire, England
what a great lady!after such a horrible tragedy, she still could move on and built a healthy and mature relationship with a man! she is incredible! God bless her!i hope she could have a great life in the rest of time!
cty, zhejiang, china
Tell me, John Anderson, If you were sexually abused by 2 older men for the next 4 years, but did not get pregnant or acquire a sexually transmitted disease and enjoyed good health, how long do you think it would take you to get over it? I suspect it might be quite a while.
david, Edinburgh, Scotland
To John Anderson - all I can say is you have clearly never been in a position where you have been abused, either by a stranger or relative. If you had, you would know that we do NOT "cling on to these experiences", the experiences haunt us far more intensely for far longer than any of us would wish. It's bad enough suffering the actual abuse, let alone suffering the memories, the flashbacks and intense pain that arises from such selfish actions.
Whether someone becomes pregnant, infected with sexual diseases or enjoys good health is irrelevant. What is important and what causes the most damage is the betrayal experienced and the emotional scars that remain long after the abuse has stopped. I can only hope that you never have the misfortune of suffering at the hands of another - or if you do, that you are met with more compassion than you appear capable of giving.
Where abuse is concerned, it is only in the past for the perpetrators. It's always present for the victim.
K, London,
Really hope that you don't take any notice of Andrew or John, if i am correct in thinking they are telling you to pull your socks up or deploy emotional blackmail, both of which exhibit a severe lack of insight.
Helen, Sapcote, UK
I think the mothers response to her daughter here is what lies bedind Harriet's agony; trying to hide something as huge as this will undoubtedly have repercussions in later life. On the other hand fantastic news about Anna, after reading the horrific details of the abuse she suffered her story stuck in my mind and its great to see she took on board the advice Tanya gave. It really is nice to hear she is out of such a dangerous situation.
Danielle, Islington, North London
Two of my older brothers abused me severely.I have held the whole family up by containing it.Both of them have jobs and families my life has been totally changed to what I was capable of achieving becuase of the shere struggle of having to "keep the face" and suffering in silence.I have a failed marriage and have been left with many many horrible teeneage one night stands and at 32 an esteem which is crushingly low.My mother knew and did nothing.I have loved my parents and been low but the after effects on me have been massive.Family loyalty and abuse are extremely complex and no one understands theses complexities unless they have been through it.
lyn, Worcester,
I think some of these comments are uncalled for. as if you have not been through anything simalar you should not judge it. I personally have been through this and for years i didn't know what to do about it and all i knew was i couldn't let anyone know as it was a close familly member mere years older than me. What I belive is bothering her is that her brothers and Mother act like nothing ever happened and she feels if she brings it up now it would be bringing up things from the past that will put huge strain on thier individual family lives.
I think she needs to talk to someone who can not judge her and try to work out how it has affected her and if they fact that nobody seems to do anything about it is the main reason of her not being able to move forward from this bad experience.
Fagoul fori, East Anglia, UK
If Harriet never confronted her brothers and deal with the issue with them, or allow her mother to talk through it with her (no wonder she is ill), it will forever remain a skeleton in the cupboard and don't believe for a single second that it has no repercussions. And how do you know that within the brothers families, abuse isn't/won't be perpetuated??
Cass, London, UK
I cannot believe the comments im reading. I wonder, did these two men also abuse tehir sisters, that they have so much sympathy for your brothers who took advantage of you? I assume that your brothers are older than you. Surely from a young age they would have known they had a duty to take care of you, as their little sister. They abused that trust and the reason why nobody knew was because I'm sure the abuse was carefully planned to be secretive. You should by no means feel as though you should let the subject go. After all, nobody would suggest this to a woman who admitted being abused by her further during her childhood years. If you feel you may gte closure from the issue by confrinting your brothers about this, you should. Remember, you have done nothing wrong. So why should you suffer the psychological consequence.
nastassja, London,
To John Anderson - I think your take on this is a little simplistic. It may have some merit where all parties are agreeable to the relationship, but certainly not when it is a case of abuse.
Abuse is abuse, and all the worse where it is accompanied by abuse of trust. Emotionally, this is a really difficult thing to deal with, and creates issues of trust, feelings of guilt, fear of reprisals for speaking out etc.
Anthony, Dublin, Ireland
I think it is very sad that people cling on to these experiences for so long. At the end of the day all you are living with is guilt formed by various components of social/religious dogma. Sibling sex was frowned upon because it generates deformed offspring, nothing else serious! I assume as a result of these sessions she did not get pregnant, has no sexual diseases and enjoys good health. Put it behind you, there are people with far worse problems than yours and you would be glad to have yours if you had to choose between some of theirs. Your life is shortening by the second, make the most of what you have left as it may end before you might like. And don't ruin other peoples lives by disclosing something so far in the past.
John Anderson, Swindon, Wilts
A secret can only be disclosed once. Specifically, you could talk to your sisters in law. After which, your brothersâ relationship with their spouse would never be the same.
However, the threat to reveal a secret can be used almost without limit. Itâs your call, love.
Andrew Milner, Karuizawa, Japan