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Paul and Amanda Davis have worked hard all their lives to bring up their three children, but they do admit to having succumbed to the buy-now-pay-later culture, and now find themselves with £50,000 of unsecured debt.
Paul, 39, and Amanda, 46, live in a three-bedroom house in Hartlepool. Their eldest child is at university, while the others, aged 15 and 16, are still at home.
To fund various Christmas and holiday breaks over the past four years, the Davises have taken out six credit cards, one store card and two personal loans. During that time Amanda was forced to take two years off work on unpaid sick leave. The couple subsidised the loss of income with more credit cards. With minimum debt repayments taken into account, their monthly outgoings now exceed income by about £1,100.
Paul says: “It is a sorry state of affairs and we feel terrible that we have got into this situation. We are just about managing to keep our heads above water at the moment, but we are in desperate need of some help.”
For their Money MoT, the couple compiled a detailed list of income and outgoings. Paul, a construction manager, brings home £2,700 a month, while Amanda weighs in with £520 a month from her part-time job as a credit risk manager. She cannot work full-time for health reasons. The couple also receive £144 a month in child benefit.
Their house has a £78,000 mortgage on Abbey's standard variable rate, currently 7.09 per cent, which gives monthly mortgage repayments of £811. Household bills are about £270 a month and grocery shopping comes to £629.
But it is the loan and credit card debt that is making the largest dent in their monthly budget. The average interest rate on the cards is 17 per cent and the balance across the six cards totals £40,400. The minimum payments alone cost £954 a month, while the two personal loans and car finance costs them an additional £790 a month.
The Davises say that raising three teenage children has proved expensive over the years and they have struggled to adjust their lifestyle to their new financial situation.
“We still spend about £400 a month on going out and pocket money for the children,” admits Amanda. “Explaining to the kids that we now can't afford things like Sky TV and mobile phone contracts has been hard - they don't really appreciate how much it all costs. We bought our eldest a £400 laptop when he started university. We knew that we could not afford it, but he needed it.”
The Davises were also keen for their children to learn to drive. “Unfortunately, it took our eldest son five attempts to pass, so the cost of lessons really mounted up,” Amanda says. “However, we had committed to paying for it. Our other son turns 17 next year and will be expecting the same.”
Although the Davises are not yet in arrears, they know that they cannot afford even minimum repayments on their cards for much longer. With monthly income of £3,364 and total outgoings of £4,580, they need to take control of the situation now to avoid spiralling farther into debt.
The Davises: what the experts say
Debt solutions 1: John Fairhurst, Payplan
“Paul and Amanda must look at ways of increasing income and cutting costs. We calculate that the family is entitled to basic tax credits of £45.50 a month, so they should claim for that immediately.
“The biggest opportunity to reduce outgoings is to cut back on discretionary costs, such as entertainment and dining out. It may also be possible to reduce mortgage costs by extending the payment term, though this will prove more expensive in the longer term. Another opportunity to economise on outgoings may be to trade in their car for a cheaper model, but this may be difficult if the car was bought using a conditional sale agreement.
“These measures may be enough to bring the household budget into balance and allow Paul to continue making contractual payments to the couple's creditors.
“If, despite making economies, Paul is unable to balance his budget, then we would suggest that he considers a debt management plan (DMP) from a free provider, such as Payplan or the Consumer Credit Counselling Service.
“In a DMP, Payplan would agree a budget that is acceptable to both Paul and his creditors. We would allow for reasonable living costs and then split the remaining money between his creditors. This would allow Paul to stabilise his finances and repay his debts at an affordable - albeit reduced - rate. Creditors will usually accept reduced repayments made under a DMP, often waiving, or at least reducing, interest charges. This solution also has the advantage that if circumstances change, the repayment can be adjusted to take this into account.”
Action plan
Claim tax credits and minimise all expenditure.
Consider a free debt management plan if outgoings still exceed income.
Debt solutions 2: Alison Winstanley, Citizens Advice Bureau, Bolton
“The Davises are really struggling with their personal loan and credit card debt. To avoid the risk of county court action they need to make some payment to creditors. However, it need not be at the level that they are currently paying.
“Paul and Amanda may be able to negotiate reduced payments with their creditors, using a financial statement - a detailed budget. However, creditors may refuse to accept lower repayments if they consider expenditure to be excessive. For example, spending £520 a month on entertainment and children's pocket money would be unacceptable.
“Once the Davises have revised their budget and eliminated any unnecessary spending, they can approach the creditors to make an offer of payment calculated pro rata - so the creditor with the largest debt receives the largest offer, based on their available income. This debt repayment plan (DRP) can be calculated by an adviser at your local Citizens Advice Bureau.
“Unlike DMPs - where the money is given to the DMP provider, who divides it between creditors and sometimes takes a fee - Citizens Advice does not handle payments, nor take a fee. But our advisers can help you to negotiate repayments with creditors.
“Visit www.adviceguide.co.uk, or check the phone book for details of your nearest Citizens Advice Bureau.”
Action plan
Consider a debt repayment plan.
Debt solutions 3: Beccy Boden-Wilks, National Debtline
“A lot of Amanda and Paul's expenditure is going on repaying their debt, which is accruing at high rates of interest. It may be possible to look at loans and credit card balance transfers with a lower interest rate.
“They should visit comparison websites, such as moneyfacts.com or moneysupermarket.com, to check out the best deals. It is vitally important when refinancing to ensure that you start living within a budget. If you continue to use credit to make up the shortfall in your income, you will only increase the size of your debt.
“For help to clear their debts the Davises should first try a DMP or DRP. If these prove unsuccessful, they may wish to consider an individual voluntary arrangement (IVA). This must be arranged by an insolvency practitioner and the fees can be expensive - about £3,000 or more.
“An IVA is a formal agreement to repay a percentage of the debt over three to five years. This can be a good option because you will not have to pay back the full amount and will be debt-free in five years. But it is important to check the details of your IVA proposal because the equity in your house may be included.”
Action plan
Transfer credit card debts to 0 per cent balance transfer deals.
If DRPs do not work, consider taking out an IVA - but be sure to seek advice first.
Paul's response
“We sat down and reworked our budget on the back of the advice and then contacted National Debtline. It advises that a debt management plan is probably our best option and will help us to set it up free.
“It also said that our first objective must be to protect our income by opening a basic account with a bank with which we have no unsecured debt. Once this is set up, we should have our salaries paid into the account and also transfer our priority direct debits to this bank.
“Next, we must suspend non-priority direct debits by sending holding-notice letters. These advise creditors that we are seeking professional help, offer a token payment and request that they withhold action for 28 days and do not apply charges or interest within this period. Then we await their reply.”
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I am also free of debt but I do feel symapthy towards the Davises because they have brought up 3 children. Peer pressue is always the problem in the UK plus the government has left these debt companies totally unregulated for years. I find the best way is need & want, if you need you buy.
keith, kuala lumpur,
How about not going out anymore? Should save about 300 pounds. I find it very hard to feel any sympathy, I'm sorry to say.
Martin, Uithoorn, the Netherlands
"Credit Risk Manager" you could not make it up! Welcome to the real world,had the party now its time to pay up or go bankrupt !
Trevor, Sutton, UK
No sympathy whatsoever. I am a debt free (inc no mortgage) house owner aged mid 30's and was raised by my parents to save first before you buy anything.
Also - stop going out - my wife and I had to when we were studying .
Kit, Birmingham, UK
Child benefit of £144 per month.
Family tax credits of £45 per month.
Why is it the single person with no desire for children gets the thin end of the wedge?
Anthony Hanson, Stamford, United Kingdom
I think the fact that this couple has admitted their issues is very brave. Do we all live perfect lives and never make mistakes. Debt like gambling and alcohol/drugs can be an adiction. A lot of people will be to scared due to the finger pointing shame it recieves. Result - Broken Homes
Neil, Derby, UK
She's a 'Credit Risk Manager' - that really says it all about today's national problems. They have to cut back on going out and children's 'pocket money'. (Wish I had such pockets !). They HAVE to be made to understand the serious trouble they're in. I have little sympathy.
Jim, Bourne,
That grocery shopping / entertainment figure is ridiculous. I spend about £15/week on shopping for myself, and it's not like I only eat lentils and value bread. If they cooked and shopped wisely, they could cut the groceries down by £400/month. Cut entertainment out and that's an £800/month saving.
Fuchsia, Slough, England
Grocery shopping comes to £629. That's a good place to start cutting back. I could feed 4 to 5 people for well inside £200 a month. Less if you give up meat and plan properly. You don't need cakes and biscuits and sweets - if you do then make your own. And as for £400 on going out it has to stop!
Eddie Thornley, Rugby, UK
Why have they funded their childrens lifestyles? If a young person wants to drive they should have paid for it by earning money. It is no wonder that the children do not understand that they can no longer afford the "luxuries". Only part of the problem, but every bit helps!!
David, Staines, England
I agree with Dave's comment. I've worked hard and avoided debt and it makes me furious to think that a good proportion of my taxes will be paying for the banks to write off the unsecured debt of greedy people like these. Its as much their fault for borrowing the money as the banks for lending it.
Warren, Oxford, UK
I don't think these people are worthy of help. I was amused to read that she is a "credit risk manager", so if she is any good at that she should be able to figure out what to do.
Ben, London, UK
Our family income is substantially less about half, we own our house and have 2 kids, 2 dogs and my answer to you is when you get out of debt stop spending what you don't have, We have no debt, which is a result of having a life stile that fits our income.
Dave, Rotherham, England
These people are TYPICAL, AVERAGE people. The mess they are in is because they have fallen for advertising big time. Buy now. Pay later. They need to learn the difference between NEED and WANT. As a very first step, I would advise them to pawn their television set & get a 2nd job.
Kay, x, Australia
Surely they're due a bailout, paid by those of us that didn't rack up such stupid debts? Oh no, that's just for the bankers, but the sensible (and the next generation) still pay. When is this going to change? All I see is the government getting ready to give the debt junkie another fix?
Bob Jones, London,
My family is very similar, except we live in Australia, we have identical jobs, similar incomes,but very little debt (thank god)
The solution, extend and fix the mortgage to include all the current debts and pay it off. Gut out your monthly expenses, remember the being frugal is now sexy.
Bill, Melbourne, Australia
I know Hartlepool is cheap,but surely they must have some equity in their house. They could attempt to get a further advance on their mortgage - cheaper than cards and loans. But I suggest avoiding taking on more debt or shuffling debt around. Why not sell up, clear all debts and rent?
Tom, Harrow, UK
"...we are in desperate need of some help."
yea, why don't you take out more credit cards? what a genius...
sorry guys, but you got yourself in trouble, and now it is a bit late to say "we need help"!!!!
next time don't go on holiday!
riccardo, brussels,
With an income of over £3360.00 a month the first thing
to do is to sit down and discuss how on earth you have come
to be in this mess.
Put your foot down with your teenagers and tell them if they
need expensive items they need to get a part time job and
pay for them. if need be buy second hand
stephen, blackpool, england
It's ok, those of us not 'sophisticated' enough to participate in this orgy of debt and speculation will pick up the tab.
dave hall, Stafford, UK
The simple answer is that they should downsize and learn to live within their means. They deserve no sympathy.
Paul, Coventry,
I suspect that this couple's house may be worth at least £175,000. They also seem to have an income of around 50k. Why not get a interest only re-mortgage for 128k @ 6% (£640 pcm) and pay off all that insanely expensive debt? They could then pay off chunks of mortgage with any spare cash
Paul Thompson, Leeds,