Pick up your copy of Joy Division: Closer at WHSmith today

Home loans are becoming more expensive for borrowers and less profitable for banks, Britain’s biggest mortgage lender said yesterday, as the continuing crisis in global credit markets takes its toll on UK homeowners.
Speaking at a Merrill Lynch banking conference yesterday, Andy Hornby, the chief executive of Halifax Bank of Scotland (HBOS), predicted a “fundamental shift” in the UK mortgage market, of which his bank holds a 20 per cent slice.
He signalled a move in the lender’s strategy, away from its traditionally aggressive push to grab market share from its rivals.
Mr Hornby told an audience of hundreds of investors that he planned to scrap the bank’s annual market share targets for net lending.
Instead, HBOS will take month-by-month decisions about the “trade-off between volume and margins”.
There has been a “sharp reduction” in mortgage profitability, he said.
Net lending is the difference between the amount lent to new customers and the value of business lost when customers pay off loans or move to a new lender.
For the past three years HBOS has set an annual net lending target and, although it has slowed its lending this year, it continues to hold a stake more than double the size of Abbey, its nearest rival in the home loan market.
Mr Hornby predicted a slowdown in the market next year, as the cost of retail borrowing rose to reflect the higher wholesale borrowing costs incurred by the banks.
“Now is the time for the clear leader in the mortgage market to deliver the right balance between volume, margin and credit risk,” he said.
Sources said that while HBOS “hasn’t fallen out of love with mortgages”, it would turn its attention to more profitable markets.
Mr Hornby said that a reduction of leverage in corporate lending meant that HBOS would be able to compete for business better.
Previously, it had been reluctant to compromise on its credit assessments, so had lost out on business to other banks.
“We are likely to be able to increase our hold levels as competition decreases,” he said.
Mr Hornby’s comments are among a number of revelations expected to come from the conference, considered one of the most important in the banking calendar.
Last night, Josef Ackermann, the chief executive of Deutsche Bank, was under increasing pressure to reveal the scale of the writedowns at Germany’s biggest bank.
The bank is expected to take a hit of about €1.5 billion (£1 billion)
Mr Ackermann is scheduled to speak at the conference today.
Having used a similar conference in Frankfurt last month to issue a thinly veiled profit warning, he is expected to provide a fresh insight into the German bank’s financial position.
Deutsche Bank declined to comment on whether it intended to make an announcement today.
It is scheduled to report its third-quarter profits at the end of the month.
But yesterday Goldman Sachs cut its earnings forecasts for Deutsche, predicting that pre-tax profits would halve in the third quarter, from €1.8 billion to only €900 million.
As a big player in the credit and leverage lending markets, the leading German bank is seen as particularly exposed to the credit crunch.
Stefan-Michael Stalmann, of Dresdner Kleinwort, said: “We believe that there is a good chance that Deutsche will also issue a profit warning before Ackermann speaks.”
On Monday, UBS revealed that it would take a SwFr4 billion (£1.6 billion) writedown, while Citigroup said it would take a $6 billion (£2.9 billion) hit.
Morgan Stanley became the latest high-profile Wall Street credit casualty yesterday, as it announced 600 job losses as part of a retrenchment at its international residential mortgage business.
The bank's three US residential mortgage units will be consolidated into one operation, headquartered in Texas.
About 500 US jobs will go, plus 90 at Advantage, its UK mortgage subsidiary, and a further ten elsewhere in Europe.
Explore your passion for food with the delights of Thai, Indian & Chinese cooking
In our new series, Tony Hawks takes a dry, wry look at modern life - junk mail, interminable meetings and snooty sales assistants
Read the training tips and advice that helped our London Triathletes
Read our exclusive 100 Years of Fleming and Bond interactive timeline, packed with original Times articles and reviews
The latest travel news plus the best hotels and gadgets for business travellers
2007
£30,000
2006
£14,337
2008
£39,937
Great car insurance deals online
c.£75,000
GlosFirstmeansbusiness
Gloucestershire
Competitive package
Npower
Midlands
£
£32,795 - £41,545
Universitry of Southampton
Southampton
Competitive Package
Npower
West Midlands
1 & 2 Bed apartments
From £249,995
Great Investment, River Views
Great Dubai Investment Opportunities
from £89,950
low-cost ownership homes in London
Multi–Centre 9 Nights
From only £925pp
View thousands of properties online with your Vacation Rental People
£POA
List your property with two leading travel websites
£POA
Great travel insurance deals online
Contact our advertising team for advertising and sponsorship in Times Online, The Times and The Sunday Times. Globrix Property Search - find property for sale and rent in the UK. Milkround Job Search - for graduate careers in the UK. Visit our classified services and find jobs, used cars, property or holidays. Use our dating service, read our births, marriages and deaths announcements, or place your advertisement.
Copyright 2008 Times Newspapers Ltd.
This service is provided on Times Newspapers' standard Terms and Conditions. Please read our Privacy Policy.To inquire about a licence to reproduce material from Times Online, The Times or The Sunday Times, click here.This website is published by a member of the News International Group. News International Limited, 1 Virginia St, London E98 1XY, is the holding company for the News International group and is registered in England No 81701. VAT number GB 243 8054 69.
"Home loan" is an Americanism. Why not just call them mortgages?
James Pombertwistle, West Morland,
Estate agents have told me that first-time buyers have dropped out of the market and Buy-to-let have steamed in paying prices that rely totally on capital appreciation - they are operating at a LOSS as the rent doesn't cover the interest.
In these circumstances there can be no 'flat' market. - not when:
*people are haemorraghing money to bankruptcy by owning
*people are 'saving' thousands if not their entire financial future by waiting
*actual shortage of housing is a future problem and present supply and demand is all about frothy market speculation-about commoditiy bubbles and not homes.
alex, London,
I got my foot on to the property ladder in 2003. At the time doom-mongers said that the market had peaked and it wasn't a good time to buy. The value of that house has risen by 30% since then.
I'm not suggesting that prices will continue to rise at such a rate but those predicting a slump are likely to be dissapointed.
Joe, Southsea,
Dominic, Manchester: "People will not sell for less than they paid, expect no such thing without forced sales".
The young couple who paid £350,000 in 2007 for a 3-bed semi might not want to sell for less, but the retired person who lives next door and bought in 1970 for £5000 sells for £250,000 in 2008.
No sign of a forced-sale in sight; still no crash?
Trevor S, Romsey,
Is it a coincidence that house prices are about to crash horribly with record repossessions on the horizon, and Gordon is considering a snap election ?
Guess he's noted the Tories were ousted in 97 at the bottom of the last crash.
Julian, London, UK
To Dominin, Manchester,
you are right, but I have recently sold 3 btl flats in Reading, and I accepted 10% price reductions on the asking price...
why?
I bought these flats in 2000 and I made already 180% on top of the purchase price. So I could sell for 10% less without hurting my profit. And like me many many property owners.
Who cares about those who purchased this summer! Better to sell now that the market is still so high
Remember the lesson of the dot com bubble. Those who made a mint were people who got out in 2000 (I was one of those!)
Richard, Maidenhead,
On Matt Myers' post, the housing market is in a classic bidding situation. Prices go up to the maximum that buyers can afford, and are therefore largely determined by the availability of credit.
For bidding to happen there must be more demand than supply, it must be difficult to increase supply, and buyers must have no realistic alternative other than to remain in the market. These all apply and will continue to apply for the near future.
The incidentally is why Mr Cameron's plan to reduce stamp duty is misconceived. It will not make it easier for first time buyers to get on the ladder, though it will necessitate tax increases elsewhere.
Malcolm McLean, Bradford, UK
A house price crash could happen faster than Superman. There are now so many people expecting prices to come down, but the sellers are not reducing their prices. As long as the sellers do not have to sell and can afford the mortgages, then this will continue.
BUT once a few sellers are dropping prices by 10% or so, then the "houses of cards" will tumble.
I cannot see any reason to drop interest rates. The economy is chugging along and all the problems we are having now is the result of a prolonged period of historically low interest rates. I would love to see interest rates up at 7%, around the historical average. You can download the rates from the Bank of England's website.
Dick Penlothe, Stevenage,
"Is house price inflation driven by supply and demand???
Or by the availability of affordable credit???? "
Affordable credit is part of demand.
"Expect house prices to fall substantially over the next 2-3 years "
People will not sell for less than they paid, expect no such thing without forced sales
Dominic, Manchester, UK
I have also pulled out of a deal at the last minute in Finchley (Greater London). The price was too high and I realized there was no one else bidding. After I pulled out the seller and the owner came down in price by 20k. On an asking price of 350k that is a lot. But I decided not to buy anyway. Now I feel that if I wait the end of the year I will find better priced deals, and what do I risk? Nothing. Statistics show that prices are not growing anyway.
Joe, Hendon,
london doesnt seem to be too affected by this yet where rents are increasing to unbelievable levels - except that agents have said to me that now is the time to make cheeky offers.
Question is how many owners are put under pressure by re-mortgaging requirements. The large build up of equity that so many have enjoyed might qualify them a good credit rating and inexpensive re-mortgage.
You don't need everyone to go belly up to cause a crash, it only has to happen on the edges, question is how many of the near 1 million sub-primes will default over the next 12-24 months and how many does it take to rock the market.
If the BoE reduces interest rates, do we get a run on the pound as is happening with the dollar.
DK, London, UK
The financial community have pulled off a masterstroke - creating an atmosphere of fear to substantiate higher mortgage borrowing costs whilst actual rates will be reducing? Why should UK consumers have to put up with this rip off service particularly when this problem emanated from the US and supposedly dodgy debt was bought up by foolish European bankers. Are we forgetting that bricks and mortar are the underlying assets of this distressed debt which suddenly appears so cheap?
Michael, Lincoln,
I was about to complete on my first house purchase, but pulled out at the last minute because my gut told me I was paying too much and that the mortgage repayments would cripple me if they went up. Guess I made the right call although I felt as guilty as hell because the estate agent told me I had broken a chain and messed up a lot of people's plans.
margaret, Enfield,
As alluded by other posters be prepared for the shock to find out we actually have plenty of houses in this country go round and as with the rest of the world our market has been driven by cheap and available credit and massive speculation. Many banks have changed there lending practices where they make their money on the administration of the debt and because they can securitised the debt into our pension funs the have been far from choosy who they lend. Give a fool lots of money and they will find a way to spend it, hence ridiculous house prices. The banks with more traditional lending practices have had to compete with the new securitisation sausage machines, this has now come to an end so they will start charging more and the market will adjust to more sensible levels of lending.
Interesting times ahead and Gordon Brown know it!
Mark, Warwickshire,
âfundamental shiftâ in the UK mortgage market"
For anybody who doesn't know how this will affect them, it will mean the end of the mirage of wealth caused by a ridiculous house price bubble. And who is to blame? Well he's just about to apply for a new mandate! He's not stupid you know.
Tim Walton, Leeds, England
It is too easy isn't it? Once again the money men have looked at a sector that cannot pay for quick profits. 20 years ago it was South American governments, now it is people with bad credit ratings (sorry: sub prime lending). Surprise, surprise, the sector defaults. No problem though, we just get the man in the street to pay for our mistakes over the life of their mortgages.
Geoff. Huddersfield, UK
Geoff. Stainton, Huddersfield, UK
So the big question is????
Is house price inflation driven by supply and demand???
Or by the availability of affordable credit????
The more savvy people know what the answer has been all along.
Expect house prices to fall substantially over the next 2-3 years
Back into the realms of affordability......and ....reality
About time too
Matt Myers, Redhill, Uk