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THE impressionist Rory Bremner fooled Margaret Beckett, the foreign secretary, into thinking he was Gordon Brown in a spoof call that led her to make embarrassing comments about senior colleagues.
In a taped conversation lasting more than four minutes, Beckett seemed to be taken in by Bremner’s mimicry and discussed with “Brown” details of a forthcoming cabinet reshuffle.
The tape, heard by The Sunday Times, was made in 2005 but, for legal reasons, has never been aired. In the conversation Beckett said or implied that:
The empire of John Prescott, the deputy prime minister, was ineffective and should be broken up;
Patricia Hewitt, then trade and industry secretary, was “out of her depth”; Alan Milburn couldn’t “hack it” as party chairman; Stephen Byers, the former minister, was a “bit of a risk”.
Vera, the production company that makes Bremner’s television programmes, has kept the tape locked in a safe in its office since it was recorded.
Yesterday Bremner admitted he had made the call and said: “I’d really love to broadcast it.”
It was the day before the 2005 election when he picked up the phone, put on his best Brown voice and called Beckett. As one of Labour’s longest-serving cabinet ministers, she knew the chancellor, his voice and vocal tics well; but she appeared to have no idea the man on the end of the line was not him.
The conversation begins with Bremner saying: “Hi, Margaret? Hi, it’s Gordon.”
Beckett, then secretary of state for environment, food and rural affairs, replies: “All right Gordon, what can I do for you?”
“Brown” softens her up with some general talk about how election canvassing is going.
He then asks Beckett if she had “spoken to Tony about next week”.
He makes it clear that he is talking about Blair’s cabinet reshuffle after the expected election victory: “He’s going to get Alan [Milburn] back in and Stephen [Byers], and I don’t know how you feel about that.”
Both Milburn and Byers are Blairites and Beckett’s response to “Brown” displays a politician’s talent for toadying and back-stabbing at the same time.
She replies: “Being perfectly honest, Gordon, and I wouldn’t say this to anyone else, I mean I think Stephen’s a bit of a risk at the moment . . .”
Later she says of Milburn, who had been made chairman of the party and put in charge of the election campaign: “I haven’t really felt he’s hacked it as chairman. I don’t know what you feel, but I felt . . . I think it just didn’t work.” It is clear that Beckett believed that the chancellor, even two years ago, had a powerful say in choosing the cabinet. As the taped conversation progresses, she talks herself up in the hope of staying in her current ministerial job.
“I would be happy to stay where I am, not least because, I mean, we are right in the middle of the sugar negotiations, which everybody is expecting me to chair . . .” she says. “There’s a huge amount coming up in the next six months or so, which, you know, as I say, all the rest of Europe is sort of confidently looking and saying literally, you know, we’re leaving that to Margaret.”
Last year Beckett, to the surprise of many, was made foreign secretary; she is reputed to have responded to the news with the words “Oh f***”.
On the tape “Brown” then asks Beckett where she thinks there are weaknesses in the cabinet. “Well, I’m just mentally running over in my mind,” she replies. “I don’t know where he’s [Blair] going to put David [Blun-kett, who had lost his post as home secretary five months ear-lier]. I mean, a lot depends on how much John [Prescott] wants to hang on to.”
Beckett gently slides the knife into Prescott, whose sprawling department — grandly entitled office of the deputy prime minister — was largely seen as ineffectual. Beckett continues: “I mean you could create something useful without taking everything away from John. You could do something a bit different with that as a portfolio.”
For good measure she has a dig at another colleague, adding: “You know, DTI [Department for Trade and Industry] is always, well . . . No disrespect to Patricia [Hewitt], but DTI is always a bit of a handful.”
“Brown” then interjects: “I think she’s a bit out of her depth there actually.” Beckett responds: “Yeah. That’s what a lot of other people say to me.”
They then move on to discuss Charles Clarke, then home secretary. Beckett says that she assumes “the two of you [Blair and Brown] will want to leave him where he is. If you move him it would look like very much of a repudiation.” Clarke had been in the post only a few months.
When the conversation draws to a close, “Brown” says: “Okay, okay, I’m going to have to go, if you want to call me I’ll be in North Queensferry tonight.”
Beckett replies: “Well if you want me, you know where I am. Nice to talk to you, Gordon.”
The duping of a cabinet minister and disclosure of the tape are likely to add to tensions between the government and Channel 4, which is under review by Ofcom, the regulator.
In a statement last night Beckett said: “I have never given my phone number to Rory Bremner, nor knowingly had such a conversation with him.
“I have no recollection of a conversation in the terms that are being suggested. If he has done as he suggests, it is both an unprincipled and unpleasant breach of privacy.”
Bremner admitted he had also impersonated Brown while phoning Peter Hain, now Northern Ire-land secretary. “But I’m pretty sure he worked out very quickly that something was up,” said Bremner, whose latest series begins next Saturday on C4. “So I put the phone down.”
When John Major was prime minister in the mid1990s, Bremner also tried to dupe three Tory MPs. Michael Grade, then chief executive of C4, got to hear about it and the recordings were never aired.
Bremner defended phoning Beckett. “It was a case of what I like to call ‘extreme research’,” he said. Geoff Atkinson, who produces Bremner, Bird and Fortune, said: “It was Rory road-testing Gordon.” Bremner’s new series could see the last time that he impersonates Blair. “We seem to have entered an era of grim, machine-like politicians such as [pensions minister] John Hutton,” he said.
And what of David Cameron, the Tory leader?
“He’s Blair, but with Peter Man-delson’s accent,” said Bremner.
Great hoaxes of our time
In the 1996 series Brass Eye, Chris Morris, the satirist, conned David Amess, the Tory MP, into asking in parliament about a fictional drug called “cake”
Victor Lewis-Smith, a journalist, spoke to Diana, Princess of Wales for half an hour in 1996, using a computerised voice to give the impression that he was Professor Stephen Hawking, the Cambridge physicist
In 1998, Tony Blair rumbled Jon Culshaw, an impressionist who phoned Downing Street pretending to be William Hague, but addressed Blair as “Tony”. Hague always used the formal “prime minister”

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Margaret Beckett says she is not aware of the conversation Rory Bremner allegedly taped of her. Is Rory sure that the Magaret Beckett he spoke to was not an impersonator and someone pulled a double con on him?
sofel , Hong Kong, Hong Kong
I am genuinely uneasy with Rory Bremner and his programme. That he is a fine impressionist is not up for debate, but the level and intent of his satire is highly questionable. Since his move into satire, with the rather over-rated Bird and Fortune, the programme has become an often tedious and drawn-out series of dodgy polemics performed by actors. All this would be fine so long as BBF hadn't firmly set up camp in territory occupied by political commentary. I have often heard Bremner use the word research to underline what he is doing, as if that somehow adds a weighty credence to the political point he is constantly trying to peddle, which is, by and large, uniformed, simplistic and always coloured with a sneering, Chomskiesque myopia. And, crucially, not very funny.
jonathan anthony, London, London
It admittedly does seem duplicitous and sleazy and a host of other similarly deprecating words but lets not read to much into it. I'd put a fair amount of money on the fact that many of the respondents to this story have spoken behind a friends back, even said things they didn't really mean in order not to cause offence - particularly if playing for the stakes that Beckett faced. Its funny admittedly and itll make cabinet meetings interesting for a few weeks but as to enlightening anyone about British politics or Beckett's personal opinons...I fear that it has some way to go.
Ben , York,
Rory Bremner's anti-New Labour obsession has long since made him one of the most boring performers on TV. He doesn't even sound very like either Blair or Brown, and this example of his dishonesty ought to raise serious questions about his judgement as well as his talent. We may love to hate politicians, but somebody has to do their job and idiots masquerading as colleagues in order to get some cheap gossip hardly makes it any more likely that the best people will be attracted into politics.
Mac, Glasgow,
Good for Rory Bremner, see that the silly secretary for Northern Ireland didn't like it. At least it has given us all a laugh on a wet Sunday
jennie baker, surrey, uk
Good for Bremner. The only way to unmask the essential sleaziness and hypocrisy of politicians is to practise the same sort of deception on them that they do on the fool electorate.
David RussellD, Sheffield, South Yorkshire
Labour ministers have been hood-winking us for long enough so I'm quite happy for a little reciprocity...just a pity that it'll probably not be aired publicly.
Tom Marshall, Lichfield,
All politicians have this oleaginous streak of self-serving, double-dealing running through them. This government seem to be densely populated with such individuals and I pay tribute to Rory Bremner's skills in revealing the true side of Labour's cabinet ministers.
Rick, London, England
I remember Rory Bremner impersonating the teachers at school at a school concert. Even at 18 his talents were fantastic, he only seems to have got better since then.
Camerons team had better be prepared for the call
Simon Skinner, Surrey,
Isn't technology today marvellous? We have GCHQ guardians of communication and security. They can track a terrorist across Europe through his mobile phone or locate them hiding in the mountains of the Hindu Kush through a sat phone, but a lone impressionist makes a sneak call to the foreign secretary and she doesn't have as much as caller display for defence
I mean it's not as if you'd have to contemplate tracing the call, just caller ID for £1 a month. We could ask for donations. Oops better not go down that route!
Rob Charig, London, UK
Standing on a stage ridiculing politicians is so predictable and boring, that I stopped watching Mr. Bremner years ago.
This latest desperate stunt doesn't make me laugh, it makes me feel queasy, and I don't think this dishonesty will enhance his career.
Caz, Notts.,
Well done Rory
Parsons, Seascale, UK
Nice one. Shame they can't do a fake resignation speech by Blair!
Alfred, Ryde, Isle of Wight, UK