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More than a half of Liberal Democrat voters believe that Sir Menzies Campbell should be replaced as party leader as he seeks to assert his authority in face of a squeeze from Labour and the Tories.
A new Populus poll for The Times, undertaken over the weekend, highlights the decline in his personal rating after a second year of poor local election results.
Privately, senior party figures have told The Times that Sir Menzies will face criticism at the Lib Dem conference at Brighton in September unless he rallies the party.
Publicly, senior Lib Dems have made declarations of loyalty, with most signs of internal dissent confined to mutterings among grassroots activists.
According to the poll, 54 per cent of Lib Dem voters say that the party would do better to get rid of him, while just 39 per cent believe that he should stay. This means that Lib Dem voters are more hostile than the public generally, who favour his departure by a 45 to 33 per cent margin.
The party’s poll rating of 17 per cent, down three points since mid-April, is the lowest since the middle of the last Parliament. Sir Menzies’ leader rating, on a 0-10 scale, has dropped by more than a tenth since January to 4.20, by far the lowest for both him and Charles Kennedy his predecessor. Only Iain Duncan Smith, the former Conservative leader, has had a lower rating – shortly before he was forced out in autumn 2003.
Sir Menzies will try to regain the initiative and take on David Cameron and the Tories by announcing new policies on tackling poverty and extending opportunity to challenge Labour’s record, led by David Laws, his welfare spokesman, and hard-edged green policies from Chris Huhne, his environment spokesman.
Lib Dem MPs have always realised that the aftermath of this month’s mid-term elections would present Sir Menzies with his greatest moment of vulnerability, followed by another window of danger immediately after his party conference in the autumn. Beyond the autumn it would probably be too late for the Lib Dems – or any party – to change leader and establish a successor in time for the general election. However, having dispatched one leader after their brutal confrontation with Mr Kennedy 16 months ago, most Lib Dems realise that they cannot afford a showdown with his successor.
Sir Menzies, 65, has from the outset maintained his determination to lead his party into the next general election and beyond. The Lib Dems’ election results earlier this month were bad enough to put pressure on Sir Menzies, but their scale was short of the calamity that would make his departure inevitable.
Only one MP, Susan Kramer, has suggested publicly that Sir Menzies might quit if he concluded that he was not taking the party in the right direction, although she added that most MPs wanted him to stay. But “Ming must go” debates have appeared on Lib Dem supporters’ websites. One article on Liberal Democrat Voice website branded Sir Menzies as “frankly embarrassing” and “an electoral liability”. A spokeswoman for Mr Campbell said: “It’s really difficult for the leader of a third party outside an election time.” Populus interviewed a random sample of 1,504 adults aged over 18 by telephone between May 11 and 13. For more details go to www.populuslimited.com.
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I am a member of the Liberal Democrats and I want Ming to stand down.
There we go, I've said it. Ming deserves praise for his commitment, his energy and the real improvements he's made to the party machine. However, it's time to face facts. He projects the wrong image and isn't getting anywhere at PMQs. Given who he is, neither problem is fixable.
I know that the original leadership election gave him a clear mandate, but that election was severely compromised. It is not the ringing endorsement his supporters claim.
I want the party to succeed and for that we need a real contest between Chris Huhne and Nick Clegg ASAP.
Yours,
A long-standing Liberal Democrat member.
LDmember, UK,
When ever he appears in the news at all the media will make references that he is not doing very well, they say that more often that events reflecting that view. Then polls come out saying people don't think he is a good leader, well how are people going to think he is a good leader when all the media is telling them that he is doing bad? How is Ming and the Lib Dems going to do well when the only media attention they get is the media recycling a comment or two on the leadership?
There will be a small event and the media shall use that to create a concept of someone or something and constantly bring it up.
Jonathan Pannell, Chester,
1. Its a terrible NAME "Ming" for goodness' sake.
2.As foreign affairs he was mature and sensible - as leader he gives the impression of being tired, old and played out (viz Sir Alec Douglas Home years ago, who was protrayed by many as a skeleton).
3. He IS old - the country - and especially in the LIbDems want younger men these days.
4.I have always been a Lib or Dem or both, and i am seriously considering not supporting the party again, as i feel Sir Ming has lost the ncessary dynamism. Changing policies etc is not the right way, it will just annoy us even more.
So goodbye, Sir Menzies (Mingis - what an affectation!) - thnaks for everything, and lets have Huhne or Davey NOW before its too late.
Peter Groves, Surbiton, UK
I find it amazing that a party would want to have a leader who if he was employed in any other industry would be retired now or would have retired long ago.
All parties should be thinking young, you can bet that if Labour where going to have a fair leadership election there would not have been any o.a.p's in the running, most proffessions are run by young dynamic peolpe with lots to offer and in the back ground are the old boys just guiding them when experience is needed, why is polotics so different. All major companies when handing over the reigns look for young blood with fresh ideas, if politcal parties where run more like a bussiness i think you would have better polotics.
mills, cape town, south africa
Having voted LibDem in the past I would never consider doing it ever again after their shameful behaviour in Scotland. If the only party you will going into coalition with is Labour, then ill just vote Labour next time round thank you very much. I thought Labour were bad for taking orders from Westminster, but Nicol has really taken the biscuit! Considering their entire political lives they have argued for PR, and harangued the Tories for not adapting to coalition politics, in the aftermath of the election, they didn’t like the result and therefore have totally spat the dummy. Its pathetic.
If the LibDems could not get recognition whilst holding several ministerial positions, implementing 80% of their manifesto and their Scottish leader being deputy First Minister, then I don’t know what they think being in opposition will do to them. They are committing electoral suicide, which after their recent actions, I warmly welcome
Scott, Perth, Scotland
The main problem is that he has carried his 2003-2005 anti-Iraq war-'foreign statesman' with gravitas-always in the Newsnight chair persona over into the Lib Dem leadership role, but it's not working and he looks increasingly like a one-trick pony, and a pretty decrepid pony at that. If the Tories still had Major in charge and Labour John Smith, then he would fit in well with the surroundings, but not now. The Lib Dems should have chosen Huhne (admittedly an unknown quantity) and stuck with him, with Campbell kept on as foreign affairs spokesman, lending a serious voice on policy and political and parliamentary experience. Moreover the Lib Dems have lost their wider appeal under Kennedy and his brand of affable politics and are being buffeted about by the winds of the major parties' activities.
dukeofmalvern, Colchester, England
Does it matter and what difference would it make whoever they get in to replace him?
Most of the stronger candidates were taken out in the last leadership battle through personal scandal. That is precisely why Sir Menzies was elected then; there was no one else.
edwardingle, chesham,
He is well past his prime, dour no charisma and lethargic needs to retire graciously.
Mike, Burley-in-Wharfedale, West Yorkshire
To say that Campbell has done major damage to the Lib/Dems in Scotland would be an understatement. Nicol Stephen is seen as an impotent mouthpiece on Scottish issues, since his submission to Campbell's directive not to form government with the SNP who undoubtably won the Scottish Election.
He barely merits mention in the Scottish media who cannot understand why the Lib/Dems would not form a partnership with a government who's policies in most cases mirrored their own. It is seen as a missed opportunity to get some positive runs on the board before the general election.
Mike, Edinburgh, Scotland
Ming has brought gravitas and stabiliity to the Party much needed to fill the hiatus created by the ladership failure of Charles Kennedy. Whilst there are a number of potential Canidates for leadership the time for change is not now. It is neither needed nor necessary.
The temporary decline in support for the Party has less to do with its leadership than the pendulum swing to the Conservatives that always temporarily adversely affects Lib Dem support.
Harry Davies, Chorleywood, Herts
It's obvious that Nick Clegg will emerge from behind Ming sooner or later, and sooner would be better as Nick Clegg is fresh enough to give Cameron and Brown a thorough pasting - and has wider appeal than most in the LDs.
Matty, maesteg, wales
Having been a life long Lib Dem Voter I find myself for the first time questioning whether to switch my vote. I feel that Sir Menzies does not convey the right message which the Lib Dems need to bring across to the voters as the leader of a vibrant 3rd political party.
I believe that Nick Clegg should become their next leader as he is very charismatic,comes across as genuine and communicates his views a lot clearer than Sir Menzies Campbell does.
James Russell, York,
Bring back Charles!
Bernard Tapp, Bristol,
It was neither liberal nor democratic to appoint Campbell as leader, when Kennedy had been voted into power.
Edmund Burke, Kingston upon Thames, England
You reap what you sow. The Lib Dems couldn't wait to get Charles Kennedy out and manouvered behind his back to do so. Simon Hughes may have proved to be a decent leader but Ming got the job by default and has since been woefully inadequate.
In Ming Campbell the party once had an elder statesman but they have learned you cannot always be an elder statesman and a successful leader. On top of all this, the outcome in Scotland should be cause for concern. Nicol Stephen may also have to go. The man who would be king is now sitting holding his thumbs on the opposition benches and wondering where it all went wrong.
Gregor Addison, Glasgow, Scotland