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David Cameron’s ratings as a leader and potential prime minister have fallen back further, compared with those of a strengthening Gordon Brown, according to a Populus poll for The Times.
Mr Cameron faced more dissent yesterday as a former Conservative Party chairman and a senior backbencher called on him to abandon efforts to reposition the Conservatives.
The poll, undertaken over the weekend, puts Labour on 39 per cent, up two points compared with four weeks ago. This is the highest since January 2006. The Conservatives are down one point at 33 per cent, their lowest level in a Populus survey since November 2005, just before Mr Cameron became leader. The Liberal Democrats are three points down at 15 per cent, only just ahead of others on 13 per cent, up two points.
The Brown “bounce” has been slightly larger than Mr Cameron’s was 19 months ago. The figures also show how the Lib Dems, having been squeezed when Mr Cameron became leader (losing an average of 2.4 points), have been further squeezed now, losing another 2.2 points in the average of all polls. Mr Cameron is given the lowest rating in having done a good or bad job in responding to the floods. He is on 3.75 on a 0 to 10 scale, well behind Mr Brown on 5.05. The much-criticised Environment Agency comes out at 5.94. The highest ratings go to those directly involved: local authorities (6.14), the Armed Forces (7.82) and the fire service (8.72).
Mr Cameron’s ratings as leader have fallen back. Mr Brown is now ahead on most measures, with the main exception of being charismatic, where Mr Cameron is still ahead by 46 to 25 per cent, just ahead of Sir Menzies Campbell on 22 per cent.However, 71 per cent of voters regard Mr Brown as strong, a six-point drop since the end of June, but 20 points higher than last October, Mr Cameron’s rating on strength has dropped a further four points this month.
There is also a big gap on having what it takes to be a good Prime Minister, where Mr Brown is on 56 per cent (up 19 points since October) compared with 32 per cent for Mr Cameron (down 10 points since then). Mr Cameron, has, however, improved his position, as has Mr Brown by a larger margin, on caring about the problems of ordinary people and being likeable (where Mr Cameron is still ahead by 60 to 53 per cent).
Lord Saatchi, the former party chairman, who worked with Mr Cameron on the last election campaign, urged him to concentrate on restoring the party’s reputation on handling the nation’s finances.
The senior backbencher Edward Leigh echoed the call for an explicitly Conservative agenda. “We need to talk more about immigration, low taxes and Europe. The public have to know what you believe in, otherwise you’ll never win,” said Mr Leigh, a leading figure of Cornerstone, the group of Tory MPs that is the focus of opposition to Mr Cameron’s attempts to modernise the party.

— Populus interviewed a random sample of 1,511 adults aged over 18 by telephone between July 27 and 29. Interviews were conducted across the country and the results have been weighted to be representative of all adults. Populus is a member of the British Polling Council. For more details go to www.populuslimited.com .

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When I see and hear Dave I think of Officer Dibble.
Not only is there a striking physical resemblance
but in his ineffectual earnestness he is a dead ringer.
Certainly he's no match for TopCat.
Sigmund, Oxford, UK
Cameron is the best guy that the Tories have in their game-plan against Brown and Labour. Yes, I agree that he needs to be less 'liberal' in his views and that he also needs to be more bullish in his policies on taxation and immigration; but the party would be mad to even consider ditching him. As a former Conservative Councillor I have faith in Cameron - and believe that the so called Brown 'bounce' will soon dissipate as Mr Brown shows his true colours! And as a PR professional, my view is that Cameron has the charisma and vision to appeal to young voters - something that the Tories need to factor into their long-term startegies (after all, the 'blue-rinse' brigade can't be the mainstay of Tory voters for ever!). And as for Brown's appeal: well, he's the original 'charisma by-pass' politician!
Judy Viitanen, St. Albans, Herts., England
Cameron comes over as very intelligent but totally insincere. He seems to be ashamed of his background for some reason. Skilled sixth form debating and scoring meaningless points from Gordon Brown at PMQT are not going to show the voters that he can take back the "middle ground". The Tories don't seem to have any direction - I don't know what they stand for anymore. Where are the stark realities - all we hear about are the supposed "vote winning" views. Tell us the truth we can take it and by this I don't mean criticise everything that Labour have done for the sake of it!
Joe Askew, Lymm,
"Offer true Conservatism to the country and if the country doesn't want it then the country will get something else."
They already have, Alan Challoner, in the last 3 elections. They lost every time, twice of them by a landslide. Don't you think this might suggest the country's moved on from traditional conservatism?
Owen, London, UK
The Conservatives, unfortunately, scramble for the 'middle ground' with Labour and the left. It is time for the Tories to establish a position -- to clearly outline a firm policy regarding immigration control, firm and fair application of anti-terrorism legistlation; proposing and forming a centralised body to deal with and anticipate natural disasters -- and -- to provide an alternative to Labour's anodyne PC remedies.
Peter Viitanen, St. Albans, Herts., England
Mr Leigh et al. are out of date. For example, low taxes are all very well; but they are not a policy. They are a by-product of a policy.
Similarily what does 'being tough' on immigration mean? Pompous fool. I'd rather have more nurses - even if they are from Poland. But Leigh and his ilk would rather the UK was short staffed.
It's just right-wing dogma. No use to anyone. Not even any use any more to the Tory party.
Cameron is right. It IS time to move on.
D Ewing, Nice,
Mr Cameronâs attempts to modernise the party are not what Conservatives want. Conservatism is just that, not liberalism, not trying to copy other parties. Offer true Conservatism to the country and if the country doesn't want it then the country will get something else. Do not dilute established right wing philosophies in an effort to win an election at all costs.
Alan Challoner, Llanerchymedd, Wales UK
I find Brown's bounce truly staggering. Was he not part of the Government of the last 10 years? Has he no part in Tony Blair's legacy? If he did not support Blair's policies, then why did he not do the honourable thing and resign to show his disapproval?
I think "New Labour's" newness is just a more subtle form of the old spin.
Les, Lavendon, UK