Philip Webster, Political Editor
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Gordon Brown last night rebuffed growing pressure for a referendum on the new EU treaty and predicted that a threatened trade union rebellion on the issue would not succeed.
Speaking after talks at Downing Street with Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor, he said Parliament was the place to debate the the treaty agreed in Brussels in June.
His insistence came after the GMB union announced that it would table a motion at next month’s TUC conference, demanding a public vote.
The Prime Minister said he was confident that the Government would secure all its objectives for the new treaty, which critics say is almost identical to the abandoned EU constitution. He told reporters: “Let’s see what the TUC do. My own view is that the TUC when it meets will support the Government.
“We believe the proper way to discuss this is through detailed discussion in the House of Commons and the House of Lords and I believe Parliament will pass the legislation.”
The two leaders also talked about recent turmoil on the international money markets, with the Prime Minister insisting that “the fundamentals of our economies are strong”. After a brief press conference they rushed off to Wembley Stadium to watch the England vs Germany football friendly.
The two agreed plans to persuade the world’s richest nations to fund doctors and nurses in Africa and promised “urgent action” to tackle disease in the world’s poorest countries. They outlined an initiative to fight illnesses such as HIV/Aids and cut childhood and maternal mortality rates.
An international health partnership to target overseas aid will be officially launched on September 5. This will improve access to health services in poorer nations.
Tory calls for a referendum on the treaty have been echoed by the GMB and RMT trade unions. They say that the treaty is similar to the proposed EU constitution, which was abandoned after it was voted down in France and the Nether-lands.
Mark Francois, the Shadow Europe Minister, said Mr Brown should tell Mrs Merkel that public opinion was running so high that he felt he had to hold a referendum.
But Jim Murphy, the Europe Minister, said this was unnecessary because the Government had made it “very clear in the treaty that the UK will not give away important areas of sovereignty to the European Union”. He added: “Every member state has said that the constitutional approach has been abandoned. There will be no European constitution. That’s no longer on the table at all.”
Kathleen Walker Shaw, the GMB’s Europe officer, said that the union hoped to use the referendum row to focus on what they regard as an effective British “opt-out” from the Charter of Fundamental Rights, which provides increased rights to industrial action in the other 26 member states.
Speaking on The World At One, she expressed concern that the Government was moving “away from a commitment to the social Europe that we wanted to see”.
She added: “We want to actually try to use the focus that is on the reform treaty as a time to influence our Government, to say to it ‘let’s see a little bit more of the trade union wish list for Europe and a bit less of kowtowing to the business agenda’.
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I wonder what Mr Brown or his family are getting out of this dishonest deal he has done. ALL politician's are corrupt Mr Brown will prove to be no exception after all he has already started aping Blair with Lies and spin roll on the election and lets get rid of all the scottish mp's in England
syd, Leeds, UK
I see no problem with the EU treaty.
The problem we have is, there are many backward thinking, gutter press brainwashed people around at the moment, who simply are clueless.
C Parkes, West Midlands,
The British People are fully entitled to a referendum,and the arogant Mr Brown denies us at his political peril.
None of us want to be dictated to by foreigners either from within or without. The English among us are just as entitled to our own Parliament as are the Irish, Welsh and Scots, we once thought that we had one, but clearly it has been infiltrated by individuals not worthy to represent us and not even ENGLISH!
Clive Burghard, LANCING, ENGLAND
Nobody should be surprised that Von mcbraun has renaged on the promise , this is completely in keeping with a control freak who would be more at home in stalins USSR than as the prime minster of a supposed democracy. This is too big an issue to leave to politicians with a vested interest in becoming part of european superstate.
If he really believes in democracy which I doubt he should let the people decide and please none of the lies we were told when we join the " Common Market"
J Cox, London, England
Parliament ceased to be representative of the public a long time ago.
Terry Dell, Weybridge, UK
Brown: Parliament not public will decide treaty.
Your headline would be intellectually a lot more honest if you deleted the punctuation and the word Parliament.
philip, Ipswich,
I have not read any comment yet on what is happening in France and the Netherlands.Both these countries rejected the original Constitution in referanda. Is there to be another referendum in each country or have the politicians convinced the electorate that the proposed treaty is a different animal,as Gordon Brown is doing?
Frank Molyneux, Norwich,
I only hope that the pressure continues to mount against this stitch up.
John, tokyo, japan
It makes no difference if the public have a vote or not on this. The EU steamroller keeps on trucking in the direction of a European federation of member states with no place for national sovereignty. If we give the wrong answer, don't worry, we'll be asked again in a few years time to get it right - or better still, don't bother asking in the first place, as who in Europe can kick those who run the EU out of power?
Wake up people! Those who think we can be in Europe without being ruled by unaccountable (to the British electorate) Europeans are in la la land. The only vote worth having is on whether we should be in the EU or not, and I don't see that one coming our way either.
Jon Burgess, Douglas, Isle of Man
This is the man who said that he wanted the people to have more say in goverment was it?
James, London, England
Let Brown decide for Scotland but not for England .Who does he think he is.We must all stick together for once and make a referendum happen. You only have to look at the mans track record to see hes a bully and a loser.Without a referendum even more English people will leave the country. which will not be good for the masses in the long term.
s fisher, london, England
The most galling thing is that if Brown chooses to ignore democracy and his manifesto pledge there is very little anyone can do about it until HE decides he we should be given the chance to express our views via a general election. Even then Labour has rigged the electoral system to allow fraud in its favour.
And this is then passed off as an example of a democratic country to aspiring democracies.
Two foreign EU 'leaders' imposing their own political nightmare vision. Doesn't that qualify us for some kind of NATO led occupation?
Edwin Thornber, Bucharest,
This treaty is a constitution. We were promised a referendum on the constitution.
GS, London,
Funny -I thought Brown said that as Prime Minister he was going to listen and consult with the British people. That didn't last long then, did it!
The British people were consulted at the last election. (Unfortunately) they re-elected Labour, on a manifesto that included a referendum on the European Constitution (which is what this treaty is), plus an assurance that Tony Blair would serve a full third term.
So much for 'trust our politicians.'
Donna Walker, Effingham, Surrey
So an unelected Prime Minister with no mandate from the people to be in office has gone back on a promise his party were elected for (referendum on further involvement in the EU). He is refusing to get permission from the people to run the country and he is refusing to ask permission to sign a treaty which will effect everyone... we do still live in a democracy, don't we? You could have fooled me.
Graeme, Edinburgh,
'Governing' the German way (if not to say: the Merkel way) must be just too alluring and too comfortable. Has Merkel rubbed off on Brown?
A. Schelberg, Germany,
I think the British should have their say in a referendum....BUT the Governement should also "educated" the citizens by clearly saying what the outcome would be......in either way.
Britain seems to be a dissastified member for scores of reasons and it is not in the EU 's interest ( neither the UK's) to do as if all members were willing to go the same way.
If Britain says "YES", then Britain should play its role as a fully integrated member and give up all those opt outs...
If Britain says "NO" and therefore derail the new treaty, then Britain should be ready to withdraw from the EU and negociate a special partnership....
Being a staunch supporter of Turkish membership, I am sure the EU can find something that will both suit Britain and Turkey then....
pascal-pierre, Dinan/france, European Union
What is this man on ? he should be looking at the state of his , sorry ,our, country right now.
Sitting around talking about Africa, saying no to a referendum, & no mention of the growing terrorist problem .
What does he want , international acclaim ?
Get to work Mr Brown & stop posturing & prancing around, your , oh sorry , our, country is in a decaying & troubled state, people are getting restless , even millitant.
We didn't vote you in , but you are supposed to be showing us you are worth the title of Prime Minister.!!
Actually we shouldn't be at all surprised, this is the very attitude we expected, he always treated us the people with disdain.
This is the man who gave pensioners 75p rise in their pension , remember ?
What has he done since being at number 10 ? apart from a number of hot air promises, what has he actually done ?
His suit is smarter & he's been to a football match, what improvements has he made ?
What is he doing to heal our broken , disunited country ?
Maggie Millington, Brittany , France
The Unions and the Tory Party need to get into the real World.The UK is now dominated by European owned companies like ICI ,BENTLEY,ROLLS ROYCE CARS,BMW,JEWSONS, all across every industry.Honda and other Japanese companies have clearly stated they will not invest in the UK should we not be part of the EU.What would the unions then do with millions of unemployed members and the Tories with a ruined economy.
Cameron should come of the fence for once and state his policies on the EU,does he want to be in or out.At least UKIP have made a clear policy statement unlike the scared stiff Tory Party.
Bill Rees, Truro, Cornwall
Of course it will, how could we stupid citizens take such important decisions? After all we might affect all the back pocket lining, non jobs that provide such jollys for retired useless MPs....God forbid. Corruption?.... This Government takes the biscuit.
Judy , Liverpool, england
If you want a referendum write to your MP and demand one. Tell him/her that if they don't oppose this treaty in parliament you will not vote for them again.
Ian, Bristol,
So Labour's election promises were a lie... well, no news there really.
Peter, London,
So after always saying that there would be a referendum on the EU constitution we now know the truth - Brown lies just like the rest of the Labour Party.
Richard Wyld, Effingham, UK
The British public are entitled to vote on this treaty which the Labour party offered as part of its manifesto at the last election.If the Prime Minister is so afraid to put this treaty to the public then it speaks volumes. This treaty is all but the same one which France and Holland said NO to I do not subcribe to not being given the truth and save us from hot air ministers who are simply full of spin.I will be lobbying my MP and asking questions which I hope he has answers to. I do not want to see this country marginalised and led from Europe the cost of EU membership has left businesses bound up in red tape and over legislated I do not want to see more power going to unelected eurocrats. I would like to see a more transparent EU and this treaty will not do that.
Margot Parker, Kettering, UK