Michael Evans, Defence Editor
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The head of the Royal Navy gave warning yesterday that the fleet would lose its flexibility if the Government cut back too far on warships and manpower. Admiral Sir Jonathon Band, First Sea Lord and Chief of the Naval Staff, said that there was a risk that the Navy would not be able to fulfil many of its duties.
While technology had made it possible to send warships to sea with smaller crews, the Royal Navy would lose its flexibility if the “human element” was reduced too much, he said.
Admiral Band said that the fleet was involved in many vital operations, including guarding Iraqi oil terminals, patrolling the Mediterranean, around the Horn of Africa and the South Atlantic and supporting dependent territories. “To carry out missions properly, we need three warships for every one that’s out on patrol,” he told The Times in an exclusive interview.
He envisaged a different style of Navy emerging in which vessels would no longer have anti-air or anti-submarine roles but would be multipurpose. With tight resources, the emphasis, he said, would have to focus on “quality, not quantity”.
Admiral Band and the other service chiefs are engaged in one of the toughest battles over how to share out the funds allotted by the Treasury under the Government’s Comprehensive Spending Review (CSR). The budget is to rise by 1.5 per cent in real terms every year over the next three years.
The Admiral said that he would be making his views clear “inside the tent [the MOD]” rather than in public but revealed that Des Browne, the Defence Secretary, was “looking at the consequences of the CSR”. Hinting ominously at the right of the service chiefs to see the Prime Minister over the head of the Defence Secretary, Admiral Band said: “We’ll execute the Government’s orders — with the usual caveats — but if the trends are confirmed, then it appears we are facing some pretty hard choices.”
Admiral Band said that if the Government wanted the White Ensign to be flown around the world, the issue of the number of destroyers and frigates available, “particularly frigates”, was crucial. The Admiral is overseeing a hugely expensive equipment programme, including the building of two large aircraft carriers, at the cost of £3.9 billion, six Type 45 destroyers at £6 billion, four Astute class nuclear-powered submarines at £3.7 billion and a replacement for the Vanguard class Trident ballistic missile submarines, which could cost between £15 billion and £20 billion.
He appealed for a steady flow of ship orders, which would help to keep costs down and give confidence to the shipbuilding industry, he said.
Cutting back on ship orders had not produced big savings. The Government’s plan had been to order 12 Type 45 destroyers to replace ageing Type 42s, but this had now been cut to 8. “But the cost of the overheads is based on ordering 12 of the destroyers and the overheads are still there,” he said.
Admiral Band said that previous cuts had reduced manpower levels to 36,700: “There will come a moment, fairly shortly, where we’ll need to bottom out the reductions in manpower.”
He was also confident that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard would never again be able to embarrass the Royal Navy, as it did in March when it seized 15 British personnel in the Gulf.
Helicopters were sent regularly on patrol and heavily armed US patrol boats acted in concert with the Royal Navy in boarding operations. Personnel were also better armed, he said.

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Pin back your ears and standby to receive this message from a serving member (submarines)
1 if you think the cold war is over you are plain stupid, the former soviet nations are re-arming and we are just as busy intercepting their boats (subs) as ever in the Atlantic, and having towed arrays cut by spy trawlers!
2 the Navy does not know how many staff are leaving as so many are doing just that LEAVING.
3 Morale does not exist, we are told that if we are not happy than leave, see point 2.
3 Boats are not coming out of refit because we have not got enough trained men to crew them FACT
4 Boats are sailing with borrowed manpower, meaning staff are working longer and harder then becoming disenchanted and leaving (point2)
5 We in the RN are sick of reports of "troops" in Afganistan/Iraq, when infact those troops are heavily backed up by Navy and RAF which means endless tours
The Navy is at breaking point, not approaching it is there now, you have been warned.
Rib, Dumbarton, Dumbarton
Good to see that the silly comment from anonymous Cheryl is in a minority of one. That was one bad day in over 300 years of outstanding service from the RN.
The Navy is indeed stretched and there are all sorts of issues that don't make the news, let alone the headlines. Equipment and stores shortages, owing to lack of funds, are the result of the Government's insistence on 'risk management' owing to lack of funds.
Our ministers are prepared to risk our armed forces' not being fully equipped but they do not dare tell the truth to the country. Just ask any officer or senior rating/senior NCO serving at sea or in front-line units or squadrons - you will begin to understand the strains of their business, leaving you with no faith in our part-time Defence Secretary.
The 'can do' professionalism of our armed forces sometimes does them no good - they do a great job despite serious shortages in equipment and manpower. Retention of people in the services is also a worry.
Lester May, London, England
The Royal Navy is still based around Frigates and Destroyers whilst the threat they counter has been absence since the collapse of the Warsaw Pact. Would the Royal Navy not be better off with larger more capable carriers and Amphious landing ships. The latter not particulary sexy but alot more useful and with a greater compliment of helo's and marines. What Admiral Band fails to mention is that we now have, many, more Admirals than ships and that Sea Harriers cannot be used in the Gulf as its 'too hot' and cannot land without dumping their missles first. So they have to use RAF harriers instead!!!!
As for Trident is the £20B renewal worthwhile just to remain in the 'club'?
Paul S. Healey, York, UK
This government is doing exactly what the government did before the second world started so that we had to borrow ships from America and other armaments. If we have any more conflicts it will cause mayhem.
We need our Navy and ships so we need to make the government to build our forces up not to keep cutting them back. They could use the money thats going to increase their pay for the armed forces.
Malcolm Scrugham, Great Yarmouth, United Kingdom
I fail to understand the sense that drives the labour government! They insist on backing our allies accross the pond in their search for new enemies yet willfully refuse to respect what they call upon to do so. Ultimately the Labour Government over the last two terms has used the armed forces more than we have seen for a long time stretching them to breaking point yet have not increased the funding to match it.
I am product of Labours 'wonderful' education system being in the sixth form now so have witnessed first hand the damage they can do. This governments ethos seems to be that if there is a problem: throw money at it! And if that problem doesn't go away... throw yet more money at it. This they have done with the NHS and the education system but we have yet to see the fruits of Labour! So while the armed forces act in their profesional manner and pride getting on with what its government calls on it to do, nothing will change. The Navy needs to call time!
Michael Lewis, Chatham, England
This government is hell bent on destroying our armed forces which they regard as too expensive. The minister who heads the armed forces is a part timer at a time when we are fighting TWO WARS. This tells us all clearly where this governments priorities lie; wasting billions on the failed NHS and Education Department.
A change at the top is the only answer and a return to some good old fashioned common sense government.
D Case, Newquay,
I welcome Admiral Sir Bands' comments. If the UK government insists on commiting British forces around the globe the Senior Service must have the platforms available to carry out the tasks assigned to it. The recent cuts to the surface and sub-surface fleets, not to mention manpower levels is bordering on criminal negligence. The government and the MOD need to take note. Small numbers of increasingly sophisticated warships are essential for battle fleets but a warship and its Royal Navy personel cannot be in two places at once. If anything the navy needs more, not less, platforms (ships). I just hope those in government start listening the advice of such officers.
Jon West, London,
Until the Navy stands up to the Defence Minister and bluntly says "We can no longer carry out all the commitments the Government has given us, reduce them or increase the budget," then I'm afraid the Government will continue to walk all over the armed forces.
Stephen, St. Ives, England
Sorry, very hard to take anything 'sir' john says about anything, given his absurd posturings over the Iranian capture of the ipod sailors, smoking on the ocean waves and backing the Iranian regime.
Senior service?! Take your inflatables on holiday Admiral Band
Cheryl, Witney, UK
Perhaps Sir Jonathon Band should take our part-time Minister of Defence and Prime Minister down to BRNC Dartmouth, stand him with his back to the mast and ask him to read very carefully what is inscribed on the facade of the main college building.
It's been more than a donkeys age since I last looked at it but I believe, if memory serves me correctly it reads something in the order of:
"It is on the strength of the Navy that the wealth, proserity and security of our nation depends"
That is as true today as when the college was opened in 1905.
Not a single penny spent by the UK on its Navy can be considered as wasted, because without an ocean capable, deep water Navy the rest of our armed forces are useless when it comes to projection of power in defence or protection of ourselves and our interests.
Bill, Stavanger, Norway
We are leaving ourselves wide-open. Why can't this Defence Secretary have the guts to stand up and be counted and fight his corner. The reason is he's too busy feathering his nest. All across the armed service penny pinching is putting mens lives at stake. On another point, why on earth are we asking the Americans to help out with their patrol boats...Allies they maybe and we're grateful for that, but the Royal Navy needs to stand on its own two feet.
kirk, Rotherham, UK
The reduction in the Navy's strength, with the end of Empire in the 1960s, matches the reduction in this country's world commitments. Only now, in the early 21st century, with our politicians believing that hanging on to America's shirt tails is the equivalent of world power and influence, have they started to commit our forces far beyond their capabilities.
Neil, Gloucestershire, England
I would liken the Governments rumoured defence cuts (reductions in ship numbers and tornado bomber squadrons) as equivalent to treason. Is the government really acting in the best interests of the country ? I think not. They are mortgaging the armed forces to pay for current operations. This continued 'salami slicing' is a significant risk to the country and needs to be stopped now. As one of the major ecomomies and trading nations of the world, we ought and should invest more heavily in our armed forces. These are very uncertain times and we need to take proper precautions to protect our people wherever they are, and our way of life.
David Bryan, Leeds, North Yorkshire