Greg Hurst, Political Correspondent
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The Conservatives’ policy on Europe was plunged into confusion yesterday when William Hague appeared to promise a referendum on the EU reform treaty even after it is approved by Parliament.
The Shadow Foreign Secretary, who has been under pressure from Tory Eurosceptics to harden the party’s position, told MPs that it would be unacceptable to ratify the treaty without a referendum. “This would not be acceptable to a Conservative government and we would not let matters rest there,” Mr Hague said.
He was immediately challenged by Kenneth Clarke, the former Conservative Chancellor and the party’s leading opponent of such a referendum, who asked him to clarify that an incoming Tory government would honour existing treaty obligations.
Mr Hague, however, promised only wide consultation within his party. He and David Cameron have been under pressure to go farther than their campaign to oppose the forthcoming parliamentary debate to ratify the reform treaty and have been urged to unpick the treaty if they win office.
Labour seized on Mr Hague’s remarks immediately, claiming that he had signalled a big shift in position that would damage Britain’s economy. Jim Murphy, the Europe Minister, said: “William Hague today signalled an extraordinary shift in Tory policy that would be a recipe for instability and be damaging to British business, British jobs and British prosperity. This latest commitment shows [that] David Cameron has yet again caved in. This rash pledge demonstrates \ the Conservatives are not a serious party ready for government.”
The row began as Mr Hague spoke in the foreign affairs debate on measures in the Queen’s Speech, in which he mocked a pledge by Gordon Brown to oppose further institutional change within Europe for a decade once the treaty is approved. He said that the treaty itself would trigger new momentum for European integration. Mr Hague told MPs: “If we don’t succeed in forcing a referendum in this House and if we fail to win in another place [the House of Lords], and if all EU member states implement the treaty and if an election is held later in this Parliament, which is a lot of ifs, then we would be in a situation where we had a new treaty in force that lacked democratic legitimacy in this country and in our view gave the EU too much power over our national policies.
“This would not be acceptable to a Conservative government and we would not let matters rest there.” When asked if that meant a postratification referendum, he replied: “It means what it says it means, exactly what I said earlier.”
Mr Clarke then intervened, telling Mr Hague: “It seems to me that the alternatives are repudiation of a treaty which this country has ratified, an attempt to renegotiate it or reopen it or a parliamentary process of some kind, or a referendum.”
Last month 47 Tory MPs, including prominent backbenchers and leading figures from right-wing groups such as the 92 Group and Cornerstone, signed a Commons motion by the Eurosceptic MP Bill Cash calling for a referendum on the treaty “before or after ratification”.
Mr Cameron denied any change in policy last night and said that Mr Hague was not giving a “nod and wink” in any one direction. His spokesman said that he was concentrating on pressing for a referendum now and that if the treaty was ratified there would be a range of options that he would not discuss at this stage.

Town halls wanting to impose council tax hikes above the rate of inflation should be required to hold local referendums, David Cameron will say today in London (Francis Elliott writes). Mr Cameron will unveil plans by the Conservative Party to cap council spending, arguing that handing more power to local people should include giving them the power to stop excessive rises. Local authorities wanting to impose large hikes would be made to send council tax referendum ballot papers alongside the annual bills. He will say that councils will also be required to state how they proposed to spend the extra cash.
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Well done William. Nothing can be more important than preserving the sovereignty of the British people.
Let Brown attcck the sovereignty of the people if he wants to, he will lose.
John W, Oldham,
If there were a European Union wide referendum to decide if we want Britain to stay in the Union I would for one vote for Britain to be thrown out. The other countries of Europe are sick and tired of Britain's unwillingness to participate in this great project. De Gaulle was right, Britain has never been and never will be part of Europe. The majority of the British people prefer to be the fifty first US state, their vassal and their poodle. Get out of the Union now and become what you are at heart, another little xenophobic Switzerland. Good luck to you and long live the Union!
mikey, Barcelona, Spain
If we had a referendum the NO vote would win, every one, with the exception of David Aaronovitch, knows that to be a fact. What this tells us is that we do not want ever closer ties to a bunch of looney Europhile Fanatics building ever more expensive empires that only serve the political elite.
D Case, Newquay,
Perhaps Cameron should have consulted the Tory controlled LGA before making his announcement on Council Tax referendum. The LGA , who were not consulted and whose chairman is the leader of Westminster council, Sir Simon Milton, has stated that "Local authorities should have the power to determine, without interference, the appropriate levels of council tax for their areas"
Do I see another 'Grammar school' type climbdown coming ?
David Dee, Canterbury,
So the Tories have two leaders Cameron and Hague with different policies on Europe.Can we really trust the Tories with this major issue.Cameron needs to drop the spin and soundbites and present some constructive policy on Europe. Ken Clarke and Hesletine will keep breathing down his neck on this issue if he does nothing.
Bill Rees, Truro, Cornwall
How could there be any rationale opposition to allowing the British people to make a decision as great as virtually giving up their sovereignty? Do the professional politicians and bureaucrats so distrust the people as to deny them a voice in their future?
Bob Evans, Anaheim, California
Hague definitely has his finger on the electorates pulse.We are sick and tired of directives from Europe imposing lunatic measures ranging from giving asylum to murderous illegal immigrants to double taxing on rubbish.
We have now had several decades of punitive euro creep legislation with none of the benefits and it is about time that our political representatives lived up to the promises they made over a referendum on this CONSTITUTION or for once due the decent thing by callling an election and let the man in the street,whom they ostensibly represent, finally have his say on yet another broken promise.
philip, Ipswich,
Still not clear that there is a firm commitment by the Tories to hold a Referendum after the next election. This is a massive vote winner if they do commit as labour & Lib Dems have both reneged on a clear referendum pledge. We the people do not reward liars & cheats. Regarding the effect of a vote â well until it is held who knows which side will win?
George King, Wolverhampton,
The fact remains .. all three Parties promised a referendum in their 2005 election manifesto's.
This is a matter of honour and of trust.
By renaging on their manifesto pledges, both the Labour Party and the Liberal Democrats will further erode the public's faith in politicians and the democratic process. (Which is already at an all time low).
JO
josephine white, Grimsby, Britain
If a referendum takes place on European treaty (a treaty which allows europe to function more efficiently) an issue which really does not interest the electorate, the result will probably be that there will be a vote against the treaty. The result will create a crisis not only for Britain and Europe but for the Conservative Party. This crisis will harm Britain's economic interests.
nicolas, London, UK
Labour claim that honouring their pledge to stage a referendum on the RU Constitution "would be a recipe for instability and be damaging to British business, British jobs and British prosperity."
This just shows that Labour, far from holding its constituents' interests at heart, will say anything to get elected and then, once in power, will return to making their own interests their top priority.
If the Conservatives have shifted their policy then Ken Clarke should decide which party is most closely alligned to his policies and then go and join it. Britons (and especially the English) are sick and tired of being driven by foreign dictats.
If the Conservatives revoked the Treaty, they would be doing so at the earliest opportunity and with the full support of the vast majority of the electorate. (If you don't believe me then ask us - hold a referendum NOW!)
Edwin Thornber, Bucharest,