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The presence of only 2,500 British troops in Iraq from next spring could make it impossible for them to carry out any useful function other than to protect themselves from attack, a committee of MPs said yesterday.
The Commons Defence Committee cast doubt on the Government’s plan to reduce the number of troops from 5,000 to 2,500 next year. The cutback was announced by Gordon Brown in the Commons last month.
The committee’s scepticism was supported yesterday by a senior army commander who told The Times: “There is no point in having just 2,500 troops in Iraq. The minimum you need both for force protection and for continuing with training the Iraqi security forces is around 5,000. So you either keep 5,000 there or you withdraw the lot, which is what we suggested to the Government.”
This assessment echoed what Bob Ainsworth, the Armed Forces Minister, told the Defence Committee in July, when he said: “The force is not self-sustaining and able to protect itself and do all the other work it has to do below about 5,000, so we are approaching levels where we cannot go much further.”
However, Des Browne, the Defence Secretary, told the committee during its inquiry into British land operations in Iraq that there was no discrepancy between what Mr Ainsworth said in July and what the Prime Minister announced in October. He told the MPs: “What has changed is that we are now in a position to have a clear idea, in consultation with our allies and with the Iraqis themselves, as to exactly what we will be doing and what tasks we will be carrying out, and we plan the number of troops in relation to the tasks, so the tasks have changed.”
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Sir,
We in Britain, with our relatively longer history, have learnt to be pragmatic realists rather than be prone to some ideologically-driven fanaticism driven by Histrionic Hollywood. The subtleties of nuance and complexity are not for those puerile Cowboy fantasists with their simplistic Manichean dualism.
We safeguard our interests without undue resort to infantile emotionalism. We are an integral part of the World, not a fearful, existentialist, jingoistic ,paranoid armed ghetto.
Recklessly pouring petrol on a blazing fire is not really that clever.
SC, London, United Kingdom
What is the point of our troops in Germany ?
Robert, Luton,
It a shame that my fellow texan needs to be insulted from the Left Coast of his own country. Learn something from Mr. Moss.
Grow up!
mark, milwaukee, USA/WI
I agree with Mr. Moss. The British, just like Americans, are saddled with the "Dirty Thirty" (30% of the population which unable to reason outside of its ideology).
This vocal minority has nothing better to do than throw a monkey wrench in the wheel of Britain and its interests.
The British people are not easily scared. They will rebound even from the influence of their ideological brothers; but will we?
mark, milwaukee, USA/WI
I note that "Jonathan, San Angelo" is helping maintain the Texan stereotype as having good solid bone between the ears.
John Bard, Los Angeles,
"Jonathan, San Angelo, Texas"
You are wrong old bean. There is plenty of resolve and spirit within these isles. We may have a bloody stupid Political Elite, but they are not 'The People' or the Services.
Ben Moss, London, England NOT Europe
Indeed a very good question.
If you would like to support british troops and see that they receive better care please sign the petition on the Prime Minister's website:
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/supportforces/
Once it reaches 200 signatures, his office has to officially respond.
Please help our people. Thankyou.
martin, London,
Cut and run!
It is so hard to find folks with any resolve these days...unless, of course, they are muslim fanatics, who obviously scare the British people more than the thought of religious serfdom does.
Jonathan, San Angelo, Texas