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David Cameron promised a Thatcher-style “single-minded” approach to Europe yesterday as Gordon Brown prepared to tell him of the dangers of standing on the sidelines.
The Conservative leader widened his pledge of a referendum on the EU reform treaty, saying that the Tories would hold one if they gained power before it was ratified in all countries, even if it has already been ratified by the British Parliament.
But he stopped short of meeting the wishes of party Eurosceptics who want him to promise a referendum even after the treaty has been ratified by the rest of the EU, a position that ministers claim would lead to a Tory government being forced to pull out.
Mr Cameron, interviewed on The Andrew Marr Show on BBC One, conceded that it would be difficult to have a referendum if all 27 countries had, by the time the Tories gained power, ratified it. However, he said that he would not be happy to let “matters rest there” and suggested that he would try to pull Britain out of the EU’s social and employment policies.
Asked whether he could offer a “cast-iron” guarantee that he would offer a referendum when in government, he said: “As soon as we have an election, the sooner we can have a referendum.”
He added: “I think Margaret Thatcher showed in recovering the British rebate that if you have a very clear, very straightforward approach in Europe and say look, we want to be in the European Union . . . but we’re not happy with the status quo and there are some things we want to change, if you’re single-minded about that, then there’s no reason why you cannot achieve your objectives.”
He said that a referendum could take place with “absolutely no problem at all” while it was still being discussed in Europe. But he admitted that it would be more difficult if there were no general election until 2010 and if all member states had ratified it without holding a referendum.
“We will not be content to rest at that point because we think too much power will have been passed from Westminster to Brussels,” he said.
Speaking to business leaders in London today Mr Brown will give warning against casting any doubt about Britain’s membership of the EU. The Prime Minister will say that at a time of global economic uncertainty, “we should not be throwing into question our future membership of the EU - risking trade, business and jobs”.
He will continue: “I strongly believe that, rather than retreating to the sidelines, we must remain fully engaged in Europe so we can push forward the reforms that are essential for Europe’s, and Britain’s, economic future.
“The EU is key to the success of business in the UK: Europe accounts for nearly 60 per cent of our trade; 700,000 British companies have trading ties to Europe and 3.5 million British jobs depend upon Europe. And even in the face of rapid globalisation, our trade with Europe continues to rise, meaning Europe is as important to the future of Britain as ever.”
Jim Murphy, the Europe Minister, said Mr Cameron’s policy was in complete confusion. “Attempting to reopen negotiations on a treaty ratified by every member state would put the Tories into the extraordinary position of repudiating an international treaty, reopening and renegotiating Britain’s terms of EU membership.
“David Cameron admitted that he is already committed to reopening negotiations on Britain’s position in Europe over employment and social policy. The consequence of such a policy would be years of economic instability that would be gravely damaging for British business, British jobs and British prosperity.”
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The more I hear Mr Brown with this idea and try and conclude matters, the more I believe Tony Blair and Gordon are closer than we all have been made to believe...
Why would Mr Brown having waited ten years to replace Tony allow him to once again have the chance to be his boss?
We import twice from Europe than we export so let's be honest they can't be sustainable without us, so really sanctions for sanctions, the whole argument would'nt last half a day.
We have too much to lose i.e. The Commonwealth, our worldly status, Royalty and most of all who want's Tony Blair back?
richard Irwin, London, UK
David Cameron was impressive all through his interview with Andrew Marr. I was only disappointed by his continuing assertion that the Conservative Party wants to stay in the EU. This still leaves the field clear to the UK Independence Party as the only moderate national political Party dedicated to withdrawal from the EU to regain the ability to govern ourselves. I believe events in the year to come will finally convince thinking eurosceptic Tories that withdrawal is the only hope for Britain.
George Earle, Crediton, Devon UK
Bill Rees of Truro has either been brainwashed by the eurocracy or will spout any old nonsense to get an anti-Cameron dig in. Freedom of trade is all we need for prosperity, and is indeed what people voted for back in the early 70s. Trade does not rely on us being in the EU: Switzerland and Norway manage access to the single market without all the political burdens. The City's success has precisely nothing to do with being in the EU; in fact it is partially due to the UK staying out of the single currency. Companies like Toyota and Honda are here for our relatively flexible working practices and access to the single market, so no problem there either.
Syd, Cambridge,
Cameron should not let it rest there. Even if the Tories gain government after all 27 EU member states have ratified the appalling EU Constitution-clone Lisbon Reform treaty, a new Tory government should pass laws ensuring that whenever the EU proposes anything major affecting Britain, including proposals that are well short of a treaty, the British people should have a referendum on it.
There also should be a referendum on any proposal by a future UK government to remove the UK people's right to EU-related referendums. If that was on the statute books now none of this EU-originated crookedness relating to the proposed Lisbon treaty would have been possible!
Agincourt, Phuket, Thailand
Given the literally vast cost to hard working families of the EU ( particularly MEP's) I think that its more about being precise about objectives and balancing it against cost rather than Labours approach of sign up at any cost and don't read the small print. I notice that Mr Murphy uses the term "member states" the "state" being another term for the political class
john Graham, london, uk
With the pound falling substantially against the euro, isn't it time to consider adopting that currency?
John McAllister, Bristol, England
Cameron has has not changed the Tory Party he is once again scared stiff af the Anti Europeans in the party.Does he not understand the UK economy relies on European trade.Also a majority of the UK public work for European owned companies like ICI ,BMW.Large employees like Honda and Toyota have stated they will stop inward investment in the UK if we were not members.The bulk of the business in the City would also come under threat from Frankfurt.Cameron is once again jumping on another populist issue without explaining his policies of how he would run the UK economy without European and World inward investment.The other queastion is he is good at U Turns and will back off in the end splitting his party again.
Bill Rees, Truro, Cornwall