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Graphic: Times poll on embryo research
The battle for public support over the creation of human-animal embryos has been won by scientists who want to use the controversial experiments to tackle diseases such as Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s.
A poll for The Times reveals today that the contentious medical research enjoys broad public approval, with 50 per cent backing new laws that would permit it and only 30 per cent opposed. The findings undermine claims by critics of the experiments that they enjoy little public support and they will bolster the Government’s attempts to pass the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill, which begins its passage in the House of Commons next month. MPs of all parties will have a free vote on its provisions for human-animal embryos.
The poll finds much greater scepticism about another section of the Bill, which would remove the legal requirement that infertility clinics consider a child’s need for a father before accepting patients for treatment. This reform is opposed by 40 per cent of people, with just 32 per cent in favour, but is popular with voters aged between 18 and 34.
The results suggest that Gordon Brown may have more trouble passing this measure, on which he has also given his MPs a free vote. His advisers have so far regarded the issue of human-animal embryos as overwhelmingly the most controversial element of the Bill.
The poll, conducted by Populus at the weekend, is the first to examine public opinion on hybrid embryos since Roman Catholic leaders made a concerted attack on the research at Easter. Cardinal Keith O’Brien, head of the Catholic Church in Scotland, attacked the research as involving “experiments of Frankenstein proportion”, which he claimed had no public support.
Populus interviewed a random sample of 1,502 adults aged over 18 by telephone between April 4 and 6. Interviews were conducted across the country and the results have been weighted to be representative of all adults. For more details see www.populus.co.uk.
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This is abhorrent and hardly qualifies for serious consideration by any scientist worthy of the profession. These carpetbaggers, riding the coat-tails of popular support, are not scientists but charlatans parading their human arrogance and amorality out there for all to witness. The absence of almost any moral conviction among Britons today has led us to this sorry state of affairs, where anything goes.
On this issue, I think that the Catholic Church has got it right. Where is the Church of England?
Julian Begg, Lenham, KENT
I agree the question was loaded in favour of the The Times pollsters. The Times has always come down on the side of the scientists who are into animal experiments for medical research purposes. These scientists only have to come out with the buzz words of "we think, this could, might" lead to a cure for Allzheimer's and Parkinson's and they've got the Government's, if not the general public's overall consent, to experiment away out of scientific curiosity on mostly human embryos, as well fully formed live animals, millions of the latter already being experimented upon every year in British labratories and with little by way of cures for human diseases like Alzheimer's, Parkinson's and Cancer, to show for it.
NC, Preston, England, UK
There is a great episode of Yes Prime Minister in which the PM is instructed how to get a Poll to produce the answer you want. This is a good case in point. Suggest it is neccesary for cures, be selective in what you ask and how you ask it. No reference to alternatives, no questions on true hybrids or GM embryos or the repeal of the Human Reproductive Cloning Act 2001 (why does no one know about this?) It is a 'if this could cure your granny tomorrow would you still be opposed' kind of Poll.
The public is clearly divided on this with large numbers in favour and large numbers against, with some passion on both sides. The question for MPs is also - how strongly to people feel about it and would it affect someone's vote? I feel strongly enough to vote against an MP who supports hybrids (and I will say this to my MP). I doubt most of those blandly in favour of research will care enough to affect their vote. I encourage others who feel strongly, on either side, to say so to their MP
David, London, UK
The ends don't justify the means. If the deliberate destruction of a human embryo is wrong then it makes no difference if it helps us find cures for Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. Also, it doesn't matter if millions of embryos are destroyed naturally as part of the normal reproductive process. Nature gets us all in the end but that doesn't make deliberate killing acceptable.
Martin Green, Shepton Mallet, UK
I am pleasantly surprised by the findings of this survey, given the great publicity the emotive language used by Cardinal O'Brien has received. This embryo research involves a small clump of cells and, as the image accompanying this article shows, is certainly not of "Frankenstein proportion". The scientists who will conduct this research are ultimately interested in finding treatments for serious conditions, and must adhere to strict legal requirements. The embryos they create cannot be kept alive in an unfrozen state for more than 14 days, and anyone who sees a human being in the image above must be wearing very thick lensed dogma spectacles!
Des, Edinburgh,
Not even a significant percentage of the population took part in the survey the result are flawed and not valid. This is a none newsworthy story.
steve tea, manchester, cheshire
Talk about loading a poll in favour of one side. Why were the words "mostly human" and "a little animal material" used in the statement used prior to asking the question?. This is incorrect and purposefully misleading. There is nothing in the Bill which describes the quantity of material used. The results are not surprising due to the leading statement used.
sean mackey
sean mackey, kirkby lonsdale , lancs, uk
Did the God of Creation give scientists their knowledge and abilities so that they can play god with His creation? No of course not! It is not for man to play at being God! God is the architect of all things, and if He wanted these human embryos to be mixed with animals then He would have done this from the start.
I am going to give you scientists a warning here. By pursuing this disgusting practice, which is ungodly and evil, then God will punish you with His wrath. You must stop this filthy practice immediately for the sake of your souls, and your eternity.
I urge all people to consider the implications of what is being done here. When life comes into existence, there is only the human egg and sperm present. Can we accept this infusion of animal embryos into the human embryo as morally, if not spiritually acceptable? The time has come to draw a line under this abominable practice, and restore the will of God into not only this, but into all aspects of society.
Alan Brewster, Leicester, UK
What? Where are all the messages from Americans saying we're all doomed and should read the bible?
Matthew, Ringwood, UK
This is a totally misguided and disingenuous headline - shame on you for effectively trivialising such an important issue.
Before making such sweeping claims the questions and the way they were posed need to be seen. Additionally details of how the Bill was explained to the sample need to be known along with which parts of the Bill were actually supported and which were not. None of these crucial details are given in the piece which reads like an advertisement for the pollsters.
I for example disagree with the use of animal egg cases with with human contents, I disagree with the prospective creation of saviour/sacrificial siblings and I would certainly like consideration to be given to a childs need for a father before providing children to same sex partners.
Apart from those particular issues I support the Bill.
M Jeffs, Bucks, UK
There may be too many of us, not only in this country but on our planet. But that is the way things are. We surely have an overriding moral obligation to do what we can to reduce suffering and enhance the quality of life. So far it is science based research that has lead to improved therapies and even cures for a wide range of ailments, many life threatening. The fact that we now live longer and generally with a higher quality of life than even one generation ago, is surely very largely science driven. Let's give them every encouragement!
Gordon Stewart, High Wycombe, UK
Jewish leaders support the bill, with a spectrum of rabbis from Liberal to Orthodox in an edition of the Jewish Chronicle last month criticising the Cardinal for both his "Frankenstein" analogy and his opposition. Jews see the starting point of life differently to Catholics, and se no problem with the research. In fact, they fully support it.
So whose "religious conscience" should we take most heed of?
Alistair, Edinburgh, Scotland
i'm in,my full support to search with embryo,several peoples are waiting for recorver about dieses,embryonaries cells comes to make a revolution in health.
Hilson M.Breckenfeld Filho, recife, brasil/pernambuco
50% is not a clear win. Most people don't vote and many don't have access to have their say. We are slowly losing our knowledge of what is right or wrong - we live in an amoral society - most don't know the difference anymore. How sad to live is these times of change - we have gained much but I believe we have lost more than we have gained in values etc. I believe in the sanctity of life and that begins at conception - what more can I say !!
Celia Lewis, Coventry, West Midlands
50% support isn't broad public approval. It isn't even a majority.
Martin Green, Shepton Mallet, Somerset
media never contact more deaf people views, very important Deaf community more richest information, hearing people are excluide deaf people, why , for example newspapers never contact to organisation deaf people , not fair , i felt discrimination very strong
betty, london, england