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Sir Ian Blair, the beleaguered Metropolitan police commissioner, is said to have fallen out with Jacqui Smith, the home secretary, after he appeared to backtrack in his support for plans to jail terror suspects for 42 days without charge.
Whitehall officials claim that Blair, for years Labour’s favourite policeman, has privately lost the support of Smith following a disagreement over the Met’s “equivocal” backing for the controversial 42-day law. One said: “Jacqui Smith absolutely hates him.”
Although the Home Office and Scotland Yard formally deny there has been a row, the two are said to have disagreed over a letter sent to Smith last month by Bob Quick, the Met’s assistant commissioner. Quick was “clarifying” the Met’s formal position on the new counter-terrorism bill.
The bill is facing likely defeat in the Commons next month, with at least 50 Labour MPs preparing to vote against it.
In a bid to sway their views, Smith has repeatedly cited Blair and Quick as supporters of the new law, saying that if the police think it is necessary then the move is justifiable.
However, a private letter to Smith, signed by Quick and approved by Blair, fails to give clear-cut support.
One senior official says the letter falls far short of giving her the full backing she wanted – and does not even mention the phrase “42 days”.
“Bob Quick’s letter was very equivocal. In essence, it was saying that the Met could see a possible time when 42 days might be of use,” said the official.
“He was suggesting that at some stage in the future it might be appropriate. But this was a long way from suggesting the Met was fully behind it.”
Smith and Gordon Brown have repeatedly argued that the proposals were necessary to give police extra time to question suspects in highly complex terrorism cases.
While officially Blair has appeared to toe the government line on 42 days, he has been forced to accommodate growing discontent within the Met’s own senior ranks about the plans.
He startled Home Office officials two weeks ago when he told MPs: “We have never put forward a case that there is evidence for an extension of the length of precharge detention.”
Some senior officers in the Met are far from convinced that 42 days is necessary. Tarique Ghaffur, one of Blair’s most senior deputies, recently cast doubt on the need for such a long detention period.
Ghaffur told friends that he opposed the new limit because it could harm relations with the Muslim community.
Officials say the alleged dispute with Smith has made Blair even more vulnerable following last weekend’s election of Tory Boris Johnson as London mayor.
Johnson has said publicly that he will work with Blair – only because he does not have the power to sack him. That remains the prerogative of the home secretary.
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If we adopted the policy of not allowing known and suspect terrorists in to the country, as we do (alledgedly for surveilance) despite warnings from other countries we wouldnt have this problem. The euro laws preventing us from extradition are a real hindrance too. 42 days is no big deal, terror is
kenny livitt, hove,
When the Provos were trying to blow us to pieces we had no issues with emergency powers and it never caused outrage
amongst Irish Catholics-of which I am one, so British Muslims had
just better put up with this 42 day detention if it saves lives
JD, London,
Another teenager has been murdered in London. the Met have better things to do than play musical chairs with Jacqui Smith.
TrevorH, OXON,
If this government were serious about fighting terrorism, they would ensure that all people working in security areas of British airports had the required Criminal Records Check, which they say is too much trouble.
Peter, Brixham, Devon
The Labour "anti-terror" strategy has long been based on the principle of internment without trial. 42 days is just another incarnation of this authoritarian approach.
We live in a liberal democracy (or at least it used to be) and have no need for a British Guantanamo Bay.
Ian, London,
I agree that fighting terrorism must be the priority. however, there is also the issue of civil rights here. Surely, if the police can't prove anything in 28 days, then they won't in 42 days. They should have some sort of a case before they arrest anybody.
Hamad Lone, London, England
Having 42 days does not mean they will be used, just available, but with judges relaseing terrorists on bail and stopping deportation, the whole security of Britain is a mess. Sack the judges, open the prisons, and sack the police everyone can then do as they wish.
Mike, cyprus,
What's the point anyway if the judiciary feel they are forced to let dangerous people out on bail? Not very joined up legislation.
Mike, Guildford,
"It simply doesn't matter if a suspect spends another 14 days detention to determine facts/ identify evidence to prevent terrorist activities."
Not to you it doesn't. But it does to the suspect, who could lose his job and his home and maybe his family.
Kay Tie, York,
To be brutally honest, Mr Tarique Ghaffur is correct about the wedge 42 day detentions would create between British Muslims and the Met Police. It now appears Sir Ian's views are in line with his Assistant Commissioner, who speaks more sense than any of our British politicians.
MA , London, UK
If this government were serious about fighting terrorism, there is so much more they could do without the need for an extension to the present 14 day rule. This is nothing more than a political gimmick and will do more harm to our safety than protect us. Another own goal for el gordo.
Brian Roberts , Plymouth, UK
the D P P says 42 days is uneccesssary
what price blair magically changes his mind- amazing what an offer of a seat in the lords can achieve
peter codner, devizes, wessex
It is astounding that the hard won freedoms are so easily relinquished, with scaremongering and hyped up fears of terrorism. We have more to fear from a government hell bent on stripping our freedoms away than we do any terrorist.
John, London,
Can someone tell me if she has not fallen out with anyone? Who ever he/she is they must be real sycophants.
M. Cawdery, Portadown, Co. UK, EU.
Facts can be determined without keeping people incarcerated.
One of justice's problems is that it all takes far too long.
All the cops have to do to keep someone inside is to charge them and get bail denied.
The cops don't want 42 days-its a political invention.
Merlin, Northampton, UK
The problem is nobody believes people in authority. There are loads of cases where people who have been arrested and held under terror legislation and all they were doing was protesting or something similar. Also its been shown give the police a year they will take a year - surprise
Pete, Yorkshire,
What a tempest in a teapot! The dispute is over 14 days! Stopping terrorists must have priority. It simply doesn't matter if a suspect spends another 14 days detention to determine facts/ identify evidence to prevent terrorist activities.This dispute is simply a cynical political power game.
SMITH, Kent,