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John Hutton has become the first defence secretary to back a French plan for a European army, branding those who dismiss it as “pathetic”.
In a wide-ranging interview with The Sunday Times, he said: “I think we’ve got to be pragmatic about those things. Where it can help, we should be part of it.”
His support goes beyond the public position of Gordon Brown, the prime minister, and will antagonise those who believe that further European cooperation will undermine Nato by excluding the United States.
Nicolas Sarkozy, the French president, has sought to develop Europe’s military structures with new headquarters and rapid reaction forces, each consisting of 1,500 troops from member countries.
Hutton said: “France is one of our closest allies, militarily. The French believe very strongly in this type of role. If we can support it, we should.”
He added that working with EU allies on military missions was “perfectly sensible.” He emphasised that Britain should not contribute troops to joint EU operations if it risked compromising other missions, and cited plans for a European Union-led mission to tackle piracy off Somalia as a “good example” of how such forces could be used.
“I’m not one of those EU haters [who think] anything to do with the EU must by definition be terrible. There’s plenty of them around. I think frankly those kind of views are pathetic,” he said.
“Britain’s role in the world is to be part of those alliances – that’s the best way to project power, strength and conviction around the world. People who don’t understand that don’t understand the nature of the modern world.”
Liam Fox, the shadow defence secretary, said strengthening the EU’s military identity could undermine Nato: “What we must not have at a time of scarce resources is duplication of existing structures and diversion of capabilities away from Nato’s use.”
Hutton, who was giving his first interview as defence secretary since his appointment earlier this month, also said: British troops are likely to be in Afghanistan for decades. The Afghan mission will fail unless there is a new “focus”. A big defence procurement project must be cut. People who jeer at returning servicemen are “cretins”.
In a frank assessment of the pressures on the services, he also admitted that the military is breaking its own guidelines over periods of rest for troops between operational tours because it is so stretched: “It’s not how it should be.”
On Afghanistan, he said: “It will be a long campaign: we’ve got to be honest with people about that. There’s no quick fix.” He said it would take years to crush the Taliban and “could well” take decades to achieve the allies’ wider objectives.
Hutton said it would be “pointless” to deny that Britain’s resources were under intense pressure, with specialised units such as the Signals unable to take proper breaks between tours.

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In 1973 they only wanted a trading bloc. Talk of a new country called euroland was "pathetic". Now they only want 1,500 troops. Next year a few more. Then reports in the news of under-resourced EU peace keeping missions and the danger to British servicemen...
Keep slicing that salami.
Andy Manson, Hackney, UK
Typical French self interest. I wonder where and from whom such an army would be headquartered and equipped. Another Walter Mitty EU head of state!
Chris Dalzell, Edinburgh, UK
Over our dead bodies: Oh Labour'ss already doing it over the dead bodies of our servicemen they have failed to fund and equip properly.
It'll never work: there will be no loyalty to foreign leaders/ generals. Just more EU posturing. Laughable. Time to consign Labour to the dustbin of history.
Donna Walker, Effingham, England
Well he can lead it from the front then on his white charger and shiny metal sword !!!!!
Sharp is turning in his fictional grave !!!!!
IAN PAYNE, Walsall,
Why don't you sign up Mr. Hutton, take Jack Master's EU supporter along with you.
The Liebour sleaze and corruption party, you are finished.
Anne robertson, Edinburgh, Scotland
Napoleon rides again.
Edmund Burke, Kingston upon Thames, England
There is certainly no evidence to suggest any "pragmatic" reasons for joining an EU Army. At least not from a Military point of view. Recent History has shown us to be at odds with the French over just about any military Deployment. How would Hutton reconcile our policy on Iraq with France?!
Ian Smith Watson, Borehamwood, United Kngdom
US, Russia, China and more av huge equiped armys, to stay as a world leader or close to we should have an eu army under one leader. it would give the eu leaverage over bigger countries and more say as to what weapoins the us puts on our soil making us targets. united we stand........
rob, london,
also as one army u would think they would be better financed... trained and more effective.
rob, london,
Another bit of salami slicing. The trouble is that we don't have an opposition so this will probably be spun as advantageous and be implemented regardless of what we think, just like the Lisbon Treaty.
Simon, Exeter, England
So basically NATO without America and Canada. Sure, I can see why such an organization is necessary! The MoD haven't screwed up our armed forces comprehensively enough yet so it's time to let Brussels have a go!
John Swaine, Malta, Malta
The Us is always there for us???
Really.?
We lost our all our ships and men in the South Atlantic because our "special friends" refused to lend us a long deck aircraft carrier.
We were bankrupted by their "help" in WW2 also.
Some friend..
Eu is even worse we lost a generation,,Twice. to save them.
rick, newcastle, uK
i think his views are pathetic. typical new labour if you don't agree with them your an idiot. and they wonder why no one want's them anymore. i can still remember the time when they were anti europe and blair making a speach in 1992 in favour of the uk getting out of the eec. (ex labour suporter)
bruce matthew, dundee, scotland
Yet another politician selling our country out. Screw Europe, give us our sovereignty back.
sid wainhouse, southampton,
We should stop making commitments or grow our armed forces and equip them properly. Undermining NATO no longer matters as it is a waste of time. Britain and America should pull out and both should redefine their global positions.
Neil Murphy, Cromer,
UK could contribute to EU army only pen-pushers, civil servants and administrative staff - but they should be warned that the big compensations for a 'sore thumb' are out of question.
Do we need Hutton, Des and all the other top-staff at MOD in case of EU army?
savo, london, uk
When it is clear that our European 'allies' failed to respond to the Nato deployment to Afghanistan, a so-called European Army would be an abject failure.
The Brown Government are bankrupt - and now seek this proposal as another means to reduce public expenditure on our Armed Forces.
Nick, Salisbury, UK
oh great an EU army where no-one speaks the same language
and by the way all our soldiers are loyal to the Queen- never thought of that did you Hutton?- he's a nasty piece of work, if only in my opinion
peter c, Devizes, Wessex
The response of the EU countries in NATO to requests for support in Afghanistan has been cowardly and pathetic. How will joining an EU army change this appalling position? The EU has not got the spine to defend itself and its interests. The EU will never support Britain in military matters.
mark, Sheffield, Great Britain
If you donuts dont see it by now, you are going to be in a lot of strife soon.
The US will have lots of influence in Nato. This is the end of indivdual countries that Hutton and Mandelson have been brought back for. There will be No more England, Scotland, Wales.
Mike, Edinburgh,
Bravo!
At last an English politicien who realises that we are European and who our real allies are.
NATO is too US orientated. Our future is in a stronger European Union.
Peter GODDARD, EPSOM, England, EU
Actually an EU army does sound like a good idea, the fact is that we have been forced into an American campaign in Iraq for the benefit of their military industrial complex at the cost to our economy.
Jack Masters, Oxford, UK
Why don't we save this country a lot of hassle and money and declare ourselves neutral?
Michael Fremlins, London, UK
Why do we need an an EU army when we are already in NATO. In Iraq and Afghanistan, our EU partners dragged their heals and failed to support us. What is the great benefit in joining them in an alliance excluding the Americans
raj, harrow, uk
France certainly is not one of our closest allies-militarily or any other way.In an emergency the US is always there for us,not the eu.No more eu intergration thankyou,as the recent financial fiasco has shown,each country looks out for its own interests.
martin, darlington, england
Thanks to Hutton and his predecessors I shouldn't think we have sufficient troops to contribute to anything. And we certainly couldn't afford to equip them properly! Hang on, perhaps we could conscript illegal immigrants and send them to join the EU army.
Sheona Hutcheson, Chesham,