Ben Webster, Transport Correspondent
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A new high-speed rail line carrying double-deck trains at 190mph between London and Birmingham could reduce the journey time to 45 minutes and allow direct services between the West Midlands and Paris, a rail industry plan published yesterday suggests.
The Government is considering the idea and is expected to announce next month that Britain may need a high-speed line to help to solve overcrowding on existing lines.
The new line, estimated to cost around £11 billion, would connect with the Channel Tunnel Rail Link just north of St Pancras station in London.
Passengers from Birmingham could catch Eurostar trains that bypass central London and arrive in Paris in three hours or Brussels in two hours and 45 minutes.
The plan was drawn up by Greengauge 21, a group of rail industry leaders, in response to the rapid growth in rail travel – up 50 per cent since privatisation a decade ago and up 10 per cent in the past year.
The Commons Public Accounts Committee gave warning last week that the West Coast Main Line would be full within eight years, despite an £8 billion upgrade.
The group said a new high-speed line would allow the existing route between London and Birmingham to take many more local and freight trains.
The line would have branches at either end: one towards Manchester and one to Heathrow, via a five-mile tunnel.
The line could eventually be extended all the way to Manchester but, to reduce early costs, would initially connect with the existing line about 20 miles north of Birmingham.
Even with part of the journey limited to 125mph on the existing line, the journey time between London and Manchester would fall from two hours and 10 minutes to 90 minutes.
Jim Steer, director of Greengauge 21 and former head of strategy at the Strategic Rail Authority, said the line would eliminate the need to continue the 30 flights a day between Heathrow and Manchester.
The line, which would take up to 15 years to plan and build, would be designed to take double-deck trains like those on French high-speed lines.
It would have a capacity of 16,000 seats an hour between London and Birmingham and a large proportion of the passengers would previously have driven between the two cities.
Mr Steer admitted that the new line would encourage some people to commute longer distances and to make extra journeys, undermining its environmental benefits.
He said the Government would have to fund part of the cost of the line but was unable to say what proportion.
The proposed route would largely use spare land beside existing tracks to reduce the cost and minimise the impact on the green belt and the amount of land needing to be compulsorily purchased.
Mr Steer said: “Piecemeal solutions are an addiction which we need to break free from because they end up being more costly than investing for the long term.
“High-speed rail is the critical step needed to support a growing economy in a sustainable way.”
Projects on and off track
— Thameslink 2000 upgrade of the north-south route across the Thames.
Cost £3.5 billion
Completion date 2015 (est)
Status has planning permission and the Government is likely soon to approve the funding
— Crossrail main line rail tunnels running east-west under London, linking Heathrow with Canary Wharf
Cost £16 billion
Completion date 2018 (est)
Status planning Bill going through Parliament. Treasury not yet convinced but may approve first stage this year
— East Coast Mainline upgrade remove bottlenecks on route between London Kings Cross and Edinburgh
Cost £3billion
Completion date uncertain
Status original plan diluted
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Would it be too much to ask for some investment in the railways in the south-east to get ordinary commuters, doing ordinary jobs to work speedily and reliably? All the government is interested in is mulling over (not even doing) showpiece projects such as the pointless Crossrail proposal. Not to mention the even more pointless high-speed trains from a handful of stations in Kent to St Pancras - at the expense of already crowded commuter routes (and disregarding the fact that most people in Kent need to get to Victoria/Charing Cross or central London, not St Pancras).
G Burton, Bromley, Kent
I have lived in france for 20 years and recently spent a week in the UK commuting from Kent to London. I have just staggered home ( France ) exhausted and appalled. How on earth do the Brits put up with such a squalid, expensive; ineffecient slow and overcrowded rail network. The UK is purportedly the fifth richest nation on earth and i can honestly say i have travelled more effeciently and comfortably in many third world countries.
It is a national disgrace !
andy, Lyon, France
I remember a few years back a group of companies spearheaded by virgin were willing to pay to build a high speed passenger / high speed freight line from the southeast to scotland, they would pay for it, no tax payers money involoved, would have slashed journey times and taken lorries off the road, wouldn't have cost the government a penny. BUT they said no, it would be unfair for virgin to operate all the london scotland routes, and unfair on the road hauliers to lose buisness! fundementally the government don't want to anyone to invest in new railways even if the government don't have to pay
Bob, Newcastle, England
WHY would this take 15 years to build?
Build now next to the existing railway which is cheaper land already and doesn't need to be governed that much because its already 'brownfield' in effect.
It would create so many jobs for local people in the area who could come from their apprenticeships etc and work on the line.
Think of all the jobs in the West Midlands that have been lost because of the collapse of the car industry. They could be retrained to work rail laying machines, work machinery to lay sleepers etc.
BUT NO! The government would rather build a 'cross rail' link that benefits those already rich people and companies in London get to the airport.
How about giving REAL benefits to people outside London?
Yes, I am grateful for the redevelopment of so many places elsewhere, but it still stands that all educated employment is in the SE. Why are the government so against these links (there was a maglev idea before too), but so happy for these expensive London extensions?
Jamie, Halifax, West Yorkshire
Uh...lets just carry on squeezing more people into London faster shall we ? Shouldn't we start encouraging more business and cultural activity in the regions so that those of us who don't want to have to go to London because that's where the best paying jobs are don't have to. Regional income tax anyone ? With London paying the highest.
C'mon this isn't really about getting to France....
A Moore, Chester, UK
The real issue if we invest in a new, high-speed line is can we achieve the higher speeds without cutting back the stopping patterns needed to adequately serve our densely populated country? If we can't, protests such as those against Eurostar cuts at Ashford could become the norm.
Hugh, London,
Sounds a good idea. If this were France or Germany, politicians would be saying, great, this will really benefit our citizens, let's get on and build it. But this is Britain. We're anti-Europe (except when we travel there on holiday or to our second homes) and like always to be the odd one out. So our transport department will take years to mull it over and then decide it can't be afforded - or at least not for another ten years. Benefiting our citizens? Well, if they're daft enough to swallow this environmental nonsense and want to use public transport.....
Barry, Wallington, UK
Travelling by train in this country is usually far more expensive than travelling by air or even alone in a car. Put passengers in the car and
the train cannot begin to compete. A family of four could go on a package holiday for the price of return tickets to Manchester! I must however admit that train travel is very reliable: You can rely on the departure being delayed, late running and the inevitable transfer to a bus for part of the journey due to engineering works. There is no financial incentive for Network Rail to properly maintain the track except by cost cutting; train operators are given short term franchises but are expected to make long term investments in rolling stock. Combining purpose built track with the old network is a typical British fudge guaranteeing bottlenecks and delays. Until this mess is sorted out there are far better things for our taxpayers money to be spent on.
David Elliott, Brighton, UK
How does encouraging more people to undertake a 300 mile round-trip commute to London from Birmingham 'tick all the environmental boxes'?
Anyway, it already costs £200 to go to London and back during peak periods on an open first class ticket. How much are they going to charge to do it in 45 minutes?
Mark, Birmingham, UK
This ticks all the right boxes in terms of economics and environmental issues. Also, unlike road pricing, this is a POSITIVE incentive to get people out of their cars. This project must go ahead.
But what politician will want to throw their weight behind a project that will only begin to deliver benefits after they've retired?! Since when did our government ever look more than one election ahead?
Richard, Oxford, UK
About time!
A new line will solve many problems we face:
-congestion
-pollution
-traffic deaths.
It will also help the economy, especially spreading wealth away from the South East "Core Area."
The longer they wait, the more expensive it will be! (although the government do not seem to care bout spending money at the moment- eg the Olympic Logo)
Therefore approving funding should not be a problem (should it !?).
W Dewar, Worcester, UK
If this indeed is as neccesary and in demand as the rail industry is suggesting, then the investment would make a sufficient return and no government support would be neccesary. The only thing the government should do is get rid of the red tape and allow it to go ahead inhindered and unsubsidised.
R Brunton, Stoke On Trent, UK
Similar progect being Planned for The Edinburgh To Glasgow,Airport to Airport.in 45miles in 14 mins.With Maglev train
D paterson, Glasgow, Scotland
Why should the taxpayer fund a line to Heathrow which helps a private company i.e. BAA. Surely it would be better that people fly from their local airport rather than have to travel to the bottom right hand corner of Britain. I would rather this Government tried to invest throughout the UK rather than this London bias.
Charles Frankland, Alderley Edge, UK
Key word in this article is "considering". By the time the government have done their considering the trains will be well overcrowded and transport will be in a right mess. Too many bureaucrats involved for a straightforward decision, and too many people creaming profits off a public service that is public transport at the moment.
Jay Long, Thatcham, UK
15 years!!! This could be up and running in 3 if it was given to a good engineering company to design and build - but I guess this approach would boot too many people of the public enquiry gravy train.
Peter, London, England
What's the big deal trains in France have been doing these speeds for some time.
Les Orrin, Shrewsbury, England