Ben Webster, Transport Correspondent
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A fleet of high-speed trains built to connect cities in the Midlands and the North with Paris and Brussels has quietly been handed to France.
The 186mph (300km/h) trains, which cost the British taxpayer £180 million, will be used to carry French passengers between Paris and Lille. Rail groups condemned the decision, which they said exposed the contrast between France’s strong commitment to rail travel and Britain’s failure to back its statements of support with actual investment.
The opening in November of High Speed One, the fast line linking St Pancras station in London with the Channel Tunnel, would have provided an opportunity to start services from Birmingham to Paris, taking about three hours, and Manchester to Paris, taking a little over four.
A short distance north of St Pancras a branch line connects with the West Coast Main Line. This would have allowed trains from regional cities to bypass Central London en route to the Continent. British Rail built seven trains, each with 14 carriages and known as the “regional Eurostars”, to run these services.
Since rail privatisation a decade ago, the plans have been on hold and the trains have been stored in West London, apart from a short period on loan to GNER on the East Coast Main Line.
The Government claimed that there was not enough demand for direct trains from regional cities in Britain to the Continent. There are 20 flights a day from Birmingham and Manchester to Paris. If only half the passengers switched to rail, there would still be enough demand to fill two trains a day in each direction.
The Department for Transport has looked again at the possibility of running regional Eurostar services and is expected to include the idea as part of its long-term strategy for the railways being published this month. But the seven trains will be operating in France at least until the end of 2011. SNCF, the French rail operator, has also had a clause inserted in the contract allowing it to keep the trains for a further two years if it wishes.
Richard Pout, of the lobby group Railfuture, said: “It is scandalous that we are not using these trains ourselves . . . there is a sad irony in seeing trains paid for by British taxpayers going to France, where they understand the value of high-speed rail.
“With just a little more imagination they could give British people a much more environmentally friendly route to the Continent.”
A Eurostar train travelling between London and Paris emits a tenth of the carbon dioxide per passenger that an aircraft would on the same route.
A Eurostar spokesman defended the decision to lease the trains to France: “Like a car, it’s better to have these trains out running rather than sitting in a depot. I’m sure we can get them back if we want them.”
The number of passengers on Eurostar services between London and Paris or Brussels has risen by a third since 2003, from six million to eight million a year.
Eurostar refused to say how much SNCF was paying to lease the trains.
Fast (and faster)
270mph
China: Shanghai airport-to-city express
200mph
France: TGV from Paris to Strasbourg
Spain: Route from Madrid to Seville
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Britain: London-to-Bristol and other intercity lines
Sources: Times database; Modern Railways
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Eurostar should take another look at the prospects for a Midlands/north service to Lille and Paris. Since the original survey was done, time has moved on and it is now clear that such a service would pull in enough passengers.
Thier blase attitude that those of us from 'the North' should drag our kids and luggage down the Euston Road on a cold, wet, November night is at best patronising, at worst two fingers!
Ian Jenkins, Wolverhampton, UK
I guess it will be some years before Eurostar runs direct trains from Birmingham and Manchester to Paris and Brussels, if ever.
But, is it unreasonable for those of us who live in the Midlands, North West England or Glasgow, who no longer wish to fly to mainland Europe, be given a terminal on the North west mainline, where we can transfer across the distance of a single platform, instead of draging luggage from Euston to St Pancras ?
Seems to me the ideal place for this terminal would be just south of Wembley Central.
Paul Mills, Birmingham,
In some ways I am happy to see them sent to a good home, rather than sitting around becoming dilapidated or raided for spares. However, the timing, just months before the full opening of HS1, is ridiculous. Even if there is insufficient demand to and from the North (which I doubt), there are other route possibilities such as Amsterdam and Cologne that could be served with direct trains. Eurostar themselves say that they can reach 50% market share on routes of four and a half hours. That now brings Leeds and Manchester within reach.
This is not the first time such waste has happened. Shortly after coming to power, the government sold off the entire fleet of Nightstar sleeper trains that were intended to carry passengers from the British regions to destinations further afield on the Continent. These well-appointed "hotels on wheels" were almost scrapped before a fare-paying passenger had even slept in one, but in the end they were sold to Canada for a pittance. £300m quietly wasted.
David, Guildford,
this is a very misleading headline, it makes the ' handover' sound like a gift !
Then further into the article we learn about leasing, which should be in the headline .
I look forward to hearing what the leasing arrangement is too.
Maggie Millington, Brittany, France
I've only travelled once by Eurostar from London to Paris, and I swore never to take the plane again between the two. I got to my destionation (close to the station, I have to admit) twice as fast, with less hassle. The way it looks, the rail system is doomed in UK, which is a pity for everybody (and to add insult to injury, in its own birthplace).
Serban, oradea,
The trains will be used in France, with low fares and a willing public. Here it would cost seven or eight times the fares in France so no one could afford the tickets.
Jane, Whittlesey, UK
I would like to know where the government figures for demand come from? I live in Manchester and used to live in Paris, and would welcome the chance to by-pass London when I visit my friends in Paris. Is it not just a simple case of the British Government underinvesting in the North of England again? After all, the Government stammered and stuttered about the Metro-link in Manchester, claiming that the costs were rising. Had it been London or any other city in the South of England, I am positive that the money would have been found. This link to the continent for "us poor folk in the north" might encourage other Europeans to visit Manchester, Leeds, Newcastle, the Lake district and Scotland and realise that Britain is far more than London. In order to accumulate, one has to speculate, something the Government should think about before leasing off trains to another country which were built for us.
Ian varey, Manchester, UK
For a period after the tunnel opened some of these trains ran a daily service from Birmingham to Waterloo, and a very useful train it was. However, they ran unadvertised (not even on the public timetable) and unpromoted so it's not surprising there was not much demand for them. I travel regularly on Eurostar and given the number of people who come down from the Midlands and the North I'm sure two trains a day could be filled easily.
Peter Reynolds, Birmingham,
I think leasing the trains to France makes good economic sense - why leave them in storage if they can't be used for their original purpose?
What is more scandalous is that yet again we are unable to provide a good fast regional rail infrastructure that links us to the Continent. It all rather smacks of Fortress Britain.
Given how unpleasant and time-consuming the whole flying experience has become, I for one, would welcome the opportunity to be able to get onto a train at any major city in Britain and travel directly to a European one ... unlike our esteemed government, I suspect there is a demand ...
BertyBrit, London,
I am based in Paris, and had regular work in the midlands over a couple of years, it would have been a blessing to avoid paying the congestion TAX and then avoid the congestion getting in & out of London to the M40.
Flying for me was less flexible more hassle and I could not work for a reasonable period as I could on the train.
Somebodyi n the UK goverment forgot that business planning includes market surveys.
tim , paris, france
If a rail operator wanted to attract custom, on say a Manchester to Paris route, they would need to charge a fare low enough to compete with the airlines.
I suggest such a fare would be lower than that currently charged on the Manchester to London route, and the rail operators don't want the embarrassment.
jasper, chelmsford,
I would happily pay 80 pounds return or so for a return ticket from Doncaster to Paris. They just cancelled the service (which was always full) from Donny airport in favour of a route to the middle east. Now to get to Paris I have to go to east midlands, and flying is polluting my conscience as well as the planet. Or maybe I should just dump my French boyfriend..?
Let's start an online petition to get this route up and running!!
laura, doncaster,