My sympathies are with you along the rivers. We live near the Mississippi river and it can really cause a lot of damage.
We"ve had a lot of rain here this summer too< and some fields are flooded, bless you all.

Mrs. S, Davenport, IA

Your headline is a bit ambiguous!

Has looting happened or does PC Plod of Much Marcle's cousin's wife's dog think that it might happen. I'd be very much interested to know?

I guess you can draw two conclusions from this flood.

1) It pays to have a few bottles of water and tins of food under the sink or in the garage.

2) Maybe it wouldn't be such a bad idea to build houses a few feet higher off the ground in the future and have a semi underground basement that floods and not the expensive plasma TV etc in the living room. I'm sure the UK planners would stop this idea though.

Ben in New Zealand, Auckland, NZ

It does seem as if this coverage of the South of England is getting much more hysterical attention than when the North flooded. Does anyone remember Carlisle?

The media difference here is that the papers appear to be trying to terrify people in the south by talking about looting.

The waters will recede in a few days and people will return to their homes.

And what's all this talk of guns? It doesn't even come into the equation!

Aid? Thanks for the offer, but that is the responsibilty of the government. If they can't scrape together £2 billion out of a budget of over £1 trillion, who are they to lead?

James, Edinburgh, UK

ENOUGH!

Does it matter what nationality, what colour, religion or where people live. If people are in trouble you help them. Full stop! If you can't help with your time, then you donate whatever you can afford, the amount matters not, what counts is that you cared.

There are always natural disasters that catch you out, you can't forsee them all, there's little you can do to fully prepare for them. All you can do is get through them with dignity and strength of will. What's the point of having a months supply of food when you are sitting on your roof with the water lapping at your feet?

Did I help survirors of the Tsunami, Katrina, Ethiopia, Africa, etc. Yes I did. Do I feel proud about that - no I don't! Why should I, I played a miniscule part, on the contrary I am ashamed I couldn't do more!

Today I million people are displaced in the UK due to these floods. If you really care go to the British Red Cross web site and dontate! If you don't then shut up!

Lisa, Guildford, Surrey

This is tough to look at. The issues surrounding anyone building on flood plains, here in America or in England are frought with problematics. All flood plains are OLD flood plains. We wish you the best in your recovery! The answers, however, will be found in respecting the natural 'flow' of things, and not trying to socialize our way out of these problems. Country life is sweet, and has its costs, as does City life. Everyone assumes personal and common risks. Prepartion is the key.

S.C.Nelson, Valley Village, Ca

I'm certain that the Brits will respond in a similar manner that we yanks did following Katrina/New Orleans, that is we demanded that government expand and strengthen to respond to every conceivable misfortune and future discomfort.
It's wiser to keep govt. small and week or it shall certainly drown us one day!.

dave, Ft. lauderdale, US

I million people in the UK displaced due to these floods, thats 16% of the population. Put into perspective thats equivalent to 48 million Americans being displaced by one single event!

Lisa, Guildford, Surrey

I posted before, but I just wanted to address 2 points which I omitted last time.

First of all, I ignored the vitriolic "hatemail" coming from some. As it's continued, don't you have lives, or does it make you feel better seeing people suffering and telling them you told them so? As for those telling us Brits to get some backbone, once again, WE are not moaning....you are reading a MEDIA ACCOUNT.....real world:media.....learn the difference!

Finally there are still people picking up on the "looting/threat of looting" discrepancy thrown up by this article. I am a resident - there HAS been looting. Hopefully this one can be put to bed now.

One final thing. I am a Brit that happens to have a great deal of respect for the US and their people and no amount of acrimony and poison from a select few will change my opinion. I just wonder why those few enjoy spreading misery and hate. Very sad really.

DT, Gloucester, UK,

I am an American who visited England for the first time in May. I loved your country and the people were so very nice to us. I am watching the stories about flooding and my heart goes out to you all. I am sorry for what some stupid person said; he does not speak for millions of your American cousins.

Gloria, Independence, MO,

I have no interest in joining in the virtual slanging match that is taking place between some Brits and Americans - I know very well that in times of need the US has stood by us just as we have by them. I am not interested in apportioning blame - its a pointelss waste of time and effort.

What's needed now is aid! You tend to find that the same people will give to any country that suffers a natural disaster, the Asian Tsunami, Hurricane Katrina to name but two. From the small children giving up their pocket money & the pensioner giving £5 from their pension to those that can afford to give more, it matters not the amount but the spirit with which it's given - the basic human desire to help ease someone else's suffering. The time has now come to dig deep again and help these people who have lost everything.

For those that expressed an interest in donating you can do so at:
www.redcross.org.uk

Lisa, Guildford, Surrey

From a scientific standpoint, you are probably experiencing what is known as a 500 year flood. It isn't the end of the world, but if you've never seen one before, you might think it is the end, I am not a trianed scientist, but the fact that England has bodies of cool water on almost all sides and as a result, has stable air overhead probably explains you lack of extreme weather. Weather is driven by differential temperature and your country has a rather minor delta T. A maximum of 38 C and a low of -26 C. Here in the USA our extremes dwarf yours and as a result of this driving force, our weather is more extreme. Plus, America is 171 time larger than your country...just by chance our weather is bound to be much worse. Just last year, our town was smashed by an all-time record flood and today, only a trained eye can even tell there was a flood just one year ago. I hope the same is true for you and I hope you will find the silver lining in these storm clouds. GOD BLESS ENGLAND.

Mike B., Bloomsburg, USA, PA

There is a certain richness of irony in the cross-Atlantic slanging match in progress - some "Special Relationship" ! To an Indian expatriate such as I, having lived in the USA before moving to the UK, there is an added level of irony arising from the comments on this Forum. The part of India I come from suffers from severe flooding annually during the Monsoon season. I would be a wealthier man if I had demanded a penny (either US or UK) each time I was asked by a well-meaning American or Briton about why the Indian Government does not prepare the country better to cope with the Monsoon flooding. The Katrina-related tragedy suffered in the US, and the current flooding being suffered in the UK, are hopefully sufficient proof that problems resulting from extreme weather can arise anywhere, even in the Developed World with its supposedly-better infrastructure to cope. PS: Please don't blame Indian Call Centres for the flooding. I am reasonably certain they are not responsible 8-)

John E. F. O'Reigner, Wirral, England

Yes, I remember all the blame-based reporting when this happened in the US. I hope our dear friends in the UK don't turn on each other in the public like that. I just wanted to leave a note wishing the very best for their health, safety, and general welfare. Our thoughts and prayers are with all of you in the Thames Valley area!

Pat Denoli, Washington, D.C.

I am an American who loves the Brits and do care for you. Don't let the comments of a few color the relationship between our countries. Frankly, I did not expect the Brits ever to need our help, but I gladly will whenever you need it. Please let me know where I can send money to help.

Don, Richmond, USA/Virginia

The amount of comment from the USA is simply amazing.
Even although we may have our differences there is something incredible which bonds us uniquely.
The sympathy evoked by the flooding is very real, what is also lovely to see is the banter & humour.
We may well be divided by a common language, but are united in how we care for each other.

Steve Wilson, Glasgow, UK

The real and unpleasant truth is what has been hinted but not said. We Brits and our American cousins are drifting appeart as both our countries are being overun by complete and enstranged people. The post war years saw both countries accepting immigrants but for the right and proper reasons. Today, the situation is different; there are no genuine justified refugees but too many economic leeches and a failed UN who cannot complete its worldly mission. All this creates strife between brotherly and friendly nations, as we should also look upon the EU citizens who come to work here differently, and not put them in the same basket. It's sad

Eric Price, Lichfield, Staffs, U.K.,

Why are these poor people having to pay for the bottled water?? Why hasn't the government made an agreement with the supermarkets to dispense the water as it comes in giving each person an allocated amount. It is a national scandal that they have to fight for such an urgent necessity, One major supermarket was made aware of the water crisis before it was announced to the public and told to prepare for panic buying, an area designated for water allocation should have been set up for these people within the stores grounds and the government should foot the bill.

Jessica Simmons, Devon, United Kingdom

"The crime and mayhem is almost exclusively centralized in the lawless "inner cities" where anarchy reigns. Oh and yes melanin too".
Joseph Ames, Malvern, USA/Pennsylvania

I like the subtle racial stereotyping does that imply all gun lovers have this mind set ? Anyway it does detract from the debate about flooding in the Uk Can we please focus on how we can help; donate at red cross appeal : http://www.redcross.org.uk we need to focus on helping one another we cannot afford to wait for the government although I am a higher rate tax payer so its doubly painful but people need temporary shelter , water solar powered lights etc food blankets. if there are people with creative ways to help I am sure it would be appreciated the help does not always have to be cash ,mailing goverment ministers or local agencies volunteering to man the phones etc to spur them on will help.
P.s
I am a guy with Melenin who lives in an inner city

stephen , london, uk

Shouldn't the heading read :
No Looting, No Panic Buying - despite water shortage.
Last night I saw an orderly queue for water , people were informed how much water they could buy by a message on a torn out piece of paper in biro.!!!!!!!!!
Fortunately this wasn't reported on by this journalist. Could I suggest, "Rioting Looters Curbed By Water Baron's Edict As Society Disintegrates - SHOCK"
Could the editor look for accuracy in the reports in this paper.
This reminds me of the BBC's efforts to find wholesale panic and fear on 7/7 and the subsequent failed bombing attempt.
What's the motivation

C Bruce, Coventry,

There seem to be some worrying similarities in the reasons fgor why we now find ourselves in a scenario that is bad (but not likely to be so devasting as occurred in New Orleans).
The politicians argue that there was justification for cutting back on flood defence monies ... that disasters only happen every century (not remembereing that you never know which year in the future century it will happen!) ... and forgetting that evermore building both reduces the sponge effect of open fields AND exacerbates run-off ... into increasingly-inadequate drainage systems.
To cap the stupidity, Ministers STILL "fail to see any significant reason for not building on flood plain areas" (do they not understand why they are called flood plains areas?).
If Ministers had to live in such risk areas; could not get insurance, had normal salaries (and no "fat cat" pension scheme to reassure their financial security), they would understand the problems and fears of ordinary people

David Horton, Bracknell, England

Where is the Looting that you suggest? Why sensationise, imply Criminality, degrade the British Public by such implications?

Where is the Looting? The first word in your headlines?

Show me one instance of looting!

The Looting here is that of the British integrity by the media!

This is not LA.

Chris Mulvanny, Flower Mound, USA

I am amazed at the militantly disarmed and their hysterical replies to a sensible suggestion to arm oneself in the face of looting.

I am a native-born Philadelphian. I live less than 25 miles from William Penn's statue on City Hall. My Main Line neighborhood, a wealthy, prosperous, semi-rural community dating to colonial days, is armed to the teeth. There has not been a murder here in living memory. So it is with the rest of my state and most of the other states in our Republic. The crime and mayhem is almost exclusively centralized in the lawless "inner cities" where anarchy reigns. Oh and yes melanin too.

Guns prevent crime. Gun control makes serfs of citizens. Give me my guns and give me my freedom. Volunteer serfs can fend for yourselves. God bless the flood victims. I hope they are made of sterner stuff than the "fraidy cats" who are more scared of guns than they are of criminals.

Joseph Ames, Malvern, USA/Pennsylvania

Always so many sides to every story, hm? Would it be great if everyone stored a month's worth of food and water? Sure. And if people don't, perhaps there's a reason.... perhaps they can't afford it or perhaps they've bought into the "instant gratification" media/society and forgotten more traditional values.
Either way they need help and support, not idiots blaming them right now.
We don't know what something is like unless we've been through it ourselves. Period - or in British parlance, full stop.
Good luck to all of you, whether you're rich or poor, in your second home or not, 87 and terrifed, 4 and terrified, or whoever you are.

Jane, British ex-pat, USA,

I'm terribly sorry for your situatoin, and also sorry for the tactlessness of so many of my fellow Americans. The American citizens felt sincerest gratitude to the British people for your collective kindness and generosity during our times of serverest trials. As are all bureacracies, ours demonstrated an extraordinary degree of incompetence by allowing your gifts and donations of food to waste away. It is my deepest hope that there will be some way we, your cousins across the ocean, can offer effective aid in your time of need.

Additionally, please accept my appologies for the lack of consideration and courtesy by those here who have offered you insult. Having read their comments, I know they meant well in offering advice, though their delivery was poor. It is a cultural failing of ours that we don't recognize the worth of other culture's values. As it appears the private ownership of firearms is inimical to your beliefs, I would not recommend them.

Best of luck.

Keith, Houston, Texas

After Katrina I volunteered to give medical aide in New Orleans for a month. I saw the best and the worst of both individual peoples and the governments. A few things I learned about large disasters I would like to share.

People have to help themselves and each other by taking responsibility for themselves first and then their neighbors. Telling Brits to prepare now is not helpful, but it is a leason that all of us can learn. Waiting for the government and others to help is not productive. If you are able to help then do something. After Katrina our government not only didn't help soon enough, but they kept volunteers from getting to the people who needed them. I was one of hundreds of private doctors and thousands of volunteers who simply saw people in need and showed up to help.
Disasters teach us not to rely on governments but each other. Individuals will help if they don't expect the government to fix everything for them.
(You are in our prayers)

Joe, Naples, Florida/ USA

"the threat of looting" gets just one mention, without further evidence, in your article. How then is 'looting' justified in your headline that goes around the world?

Steve, Tunbridge Wells, England

Even with the best preparations, sometimes there really isn't a way to avoid all the myriad problems that come with rising water. Before you know it, you're inundated. I wish all in England who are in a bad way from the flooding a long dry spell and greater access to the supplies you need. And may the cooler minds prevail! You folks are terrific, rain or shine!

Kerry, West New York, USA/NJ

"Have y'all forgotten the millions of $ the British PUBLIC sent to the US residents following Katrina. Where is the help, now, from the American public? - Derek, Gloucestershire, UK"

During Katrina, you assured us that the British people were capable of handling something as minor as a little rain. Time to stand on your on two feet - or shall we bail you out again?

Jason Oliphant, Hamden,

I can not believe the lack of common sense exhibited by the comments left here by those from the UK. You people have lost any backbone that you may have had. Pathetic. The UK is going down! And who will they ask to help them? Exaclty, the good ol' God blessed US of A!

Dan, Trenton, USA

I just had the misfortune of reading some of the comments from folks from the UK and the US and cannot fathom the audacity of so many of you. It should be obvious, based on recent past catastrophes that the British government is responsible due to them allowing so many moslems to move into England. The moslems god a'la is letting his followers know that they should return to their homelands in order to live without having to put up with these floods and stuff.

Don MacFarland, Wheeling, West Virginia

As an American, I apology for the state of Texas. They annoy us as well.

If we had a decent government, we would be sending aid. We are trying to remedy. Stay strong in the meantime.

Riley, Chicago, USA

I have never seen as much hatred, vitriol, loathing, ridicule, sarcasm, and back stabbing coming from a supposed friend as I have seen coming from England and the EU toward the United States for the last 6 years. We don't like each other much anymore, and we are both are at fault for it - on both sides of the Atlantic. Don't expect us to start acting like friends now. Why the shock at the unfriendly discourse? I rather like the honesty.

Keith, Mesa, Arizona - USA

Of course our thoughts are with you during this terrible tragedy.
Flooding here in St. Louis in 1993 was a direct result of the river channel being narrowed, and construction placed in the middle of flood plains.

Exacerbating the problem is that socialism has dulled your senses. When you are completely dependent on the government to protect you from cradle to grave, that's what happens. It's certainly what happened here in New Orleans with Katrina. Let this serve as a wake up call.

R. Cox, St. Louis, MO, USA

I hate to say it, but all of you complaining need only look at your governments. The only thing we can depend on the Feds to do well is waste money. This is a problem for ALL countries. I am thankful for not paying the taxes the Brits do! If you want to recover quickly, help your friends, help strangers and quit complaining and waiting on the government! You Brits need to be thankful you don't have 120 mph winds along with the rain! Its one thing to have a little water on the ground, something else when your towns, farms, industry are smashed to the ground! Everyone needs a little perspective as some have noted.

MOST Americans are praying for you all. Others may sound a bit ugly about this, but that is what happens when we only hear our "truth" from the mainstream media.

Ron Scott, Lexington, Kentucky

I echo some of my fellow Americans.

We want to help out very much. Where can we send our donations?

And need I remind some of my fellow Americans also...the British press does not represent the majority of the British people (in re: to the coverage of Katrina over there) Inasmuch as our media doesn't represent the maority view either.

Our support and prayers are with y'all .Let us know HOW we can helpa.

DSL, South Carolina, USA

I wanted to say thanks to all those Americans and other non nationals who have expressed support.

As far as those who've suffered similar events, whether from Gloucester, Hull, New Orleans, or the east coast of India, or indeed anywhere, don't believe everything you read in the papers, and to our American friends, I would say don't take the view of the British media as the view of the British people. It is not.

We're just trying to get through this as you were then, and it's encouraging to read the messages of support.

I mainly wanted to say that the slant this article places on events in Gloucester is NOT the whole story. My experience as a resident is very different. There have been isolated examples of looting from abandoned cars, and a few (only) examples of fights over water but the atmosphere is mainly one of everyone pulling together, helping each other and working to get everyone through this, not just themselves.

Just setting the record straight.

DT, Gloucester, UK,

I am so sorry to see so many of our friends in such tragic situation. My family send our best wishes and hopes that the flooding subsides quickly. We will be visiting the United Kingdom late next month, and the photos of the flooded areas are heartbreaking. Truly, our best wishes and God Bless all of you.

Rebecca, Anchorage, Alaska

Reading the comments from the various posters on both sides of the pond and from all over the political spectrum, one theme keeps shining through. Gov't wether it be Tory, Labour, Democrat or Republican cannot be depended on to react quickly or effectively in a disaster such as the flooding England is having or in Katrina. We all need to be prepared to take care of ourselves, family and neighbors without gov't help.

Good luck to all of you in the effected areas.

Athompson, Gig Harbor, Wa, USA

Where are the big private water companies? Couldnt they step up and donate bottled water to their citizens. Also couldnt the department of defense worry about wages later just get to the people who need help first!

Lynda, Inverness, UK

Dreadful situation, with Government agencies taking too long to respond, and then in a half-baked manner. Our European partners could assist if they arranged an inspection tour of the damaged areas by the MEP's and the European Commissioners. The ensuing hot air would at least dry out some of the flooded homes. Seriously though, perhaps a pan-european rapid response flood relief agency should be formed. This is definately not the last European flood we will see. Lives could be saved and we might see a return on the countless billions we have injected into the EU.

Nostrodamis, Roses, Costa Brava

I first saw news on the TV channels in India about the floods in U.K. and then visited the Times on line to get the details . I found not much of the difference in Mumbai’s flooding and that of U.K. , I was slightly disturb to know that there was delay in sending the support by Military es.tablishment doubting the payment by authorities for the services going to offered by them . This is not the time for such issue by any body since the HELP come first above all.
I am interested to know what will be situation in the next week in U.K. , since my nephew is going to U.K. for playing cricket matches( Under 16 years) at different centers and He is visiting U.K. for the first time . I will be grateful if some one help me to inform about the situation there time to time .
We all should prepare for this changes occurring globally in nature and for which all of us are responsible.

O.P. Tiwari, Mumbai, India

Once again, the Brits are showing admiral courage and 'can do' attitude in the face of a formidable foe. This time, fortunately, the foe is naturally innocent - albeit disastrous (just Mother Nature doing what she needs to do). The 'government' never has been able (and God willing, never will be able) to match the ingenuity and kindness of person to person help. England is in the prayers of all civilized people .. and probably in the prayers of some uncivilized sorts as well. Keep helping each other out and the USA will do what we can.

Daisy, New York , USA

What the flock does this have to do with Global Warming??? If anything this is evidence of climate stabilization. This is the earth *sometimes* there is bad weather, get over it. How come anytime something out of the ordinary happens weatherwise Global warming *MUST* be the cause??? If this is the worst flooding the UK has seen in 60 years, what was to blame then?

Billy-Bob, Seattle, WA

The people of the U.K. are learning a valuable lesson of what happens when you depend on the government to take care of you. NO government is perfect and when you rely on government to take care of all your needs this is what happens.

Donald Hauser, Hawaiian Gardens, California USA

London has a violent crime rate twice that of New York city. Brits can't be trusted with arms, obviously.

But, hope your misery with the flooding is over soon. Building on flood plains isn't a good idea in US or UK.

Ben , Arlington, USA, VA

Please be strong , dont start acting like Katrina victims like we have in the US. Keep that siff upper lip stuff alive. Our prayers are with you.

J, Gostkowski, Knoxville TN, USa

I lived in the UK for 10 years while in the USAF, now we live in Florida where we have seen first hand what a disaster can do. Here are our lessons learned: clean up as quickly as possible but talk to your insurance agent first. Inventory and photograph property and items damage. If you let it lie and start to rot, mold will grow giving you greater problems. Be wary of door to door repairmen that say your home will be fixed in days - they may be after your money, don't pay up front for work undone! Repairs can take a year - remember builders homes are damaged to. When your homes are like new again, stock pile your own source of unpearishable water and food stuff; seven to ten day supply. To keep it from going out of date use it up and replinish it after a year. Fuses will be short what your temper. The gov can only do so much but the British People are among the strongest in the world and will survive this as they did in World War ll. Our hearts and prayers go to you all.

L, Gulf Breeze, USA/Florida

When DEFRA were fined umpteen million last year by the EU for not paying farmers their dues promptly, they paid up taking money from the Environment Agencies budget. That money had been allocated to flood defences. The near criminal complacency of DEFRA , this government and the EU will take some explaining. Of course, no-one will be held to account as so many people are implicated.

Steve, Long Crendon, UK

I just read the comments about being prepared and while I totally agree that everyone should take responsibility for emergency preparedness, it occurred to that, aside from a backpack, or what is referred to as a "go-bag", how does one transport their supplies? Gallons of water? Won't do much good when you're up to waist in water and have to high tail it out of the area. Reminds me: put on list: raft or kayak. Seriously. I've been giving this even more thought recently because LI was recently flooded after a freak storm and it's obvious that there's no way the island will be able to evacuate all of these people in a hurry. It was scary having to make u-turns and drive up side-streets trying to stay ahead of the floods. People of Britain...my prayers are with you. This is serious stuff and it seems to be spreading ever more rapidly.

Lotus, Long Island, USA

This is interesting. While tragic, I can remember not long ago when we were having issues with Hurricane Katrina how much the US was stomped all over and I remember the hate that was spewn expecially by the UK at how "incompetent" we were. I remember seeing very little sympathy but a LOT of terrible hateful comments. Perhaps you should think about acting a little less superior the next time you judge and open your fat mouths. Just a suggestion.

Dan, North Hampton , NH, USA

I am another American embarrassed at some of the responses you have gotten from the US. Their ignorant and judgemental attitude is not shared by all Americans, but sadly it is those types of people that give this beautiful country a bad name. To say anything other than sympathetic words about the terrible conditions some people are struggling with is apalling and shameful.

I am sorry to hear that people are suffering (regardless of who/what is to blame) and I'm simply grateful that my family here (and family in the UK) are safe and sound. To hint that these people are to blame for not being prepared for 100 different potential disasters (natural or otherwise) is unnecessary and insensitive. We all do what we can with what we've got and I for one would not want to be so paranoid about life and humanity that I have to stockpile arms and supplies for months 'just in case'.

I'm more afraid of that mentality than I am any threat of disaster.

averi , Bay Area, Ca

In the United States, we have been warned about natural disasters and to be alert and keep supplies of water, food, flashlights, batteries, radios, etc. Many do not take this seriously and it's unfortunate because many will find themselves in dire strates when these kinds of disasters happen and with global warming, we will be seeing more and more of this. It's really not a big deal to try to have at least a week of two worth of food and water in the event of such a disaster. I can't understand why so many are either in denial of just to plain lazy.

Barbara Jaffe, Boynton Beach, USA, Florida

AP Monday 1:22 PM Washington

"It's Bush's fault" said Jessie Jackson on the steps of the capitol building in Washingtion this morning.

"Yes" chimed in Reid and Pelosi who were cheering on Jackson as he made his appearance in the dias.

Gore was eloquent when he told the crowd "Earth will cease to exist in 10 years, unless I had won the election in 2000 in which case this flood would have never happened" .

Ray Nagin told the crowd to "please take enough food and water for 3 days and head to the Superdome...."

Paul Azinger, Hooston, TX

I hope and pray that the Brits come out of this okay.

I do remember many Europeans comments about New Orleans and that it was indicative of all Americans. New Orleans is really the armpit of America. (It was a French colony)

However, the British aren't acting super polite when they face a crisis. (Men pushing aside kids to get water?)

This should serve as a reminder that people need to be responsible for themselves. Self reliance is a good thing. Having some supplies on hand "for a rainy day" is a good: Some bottles of water, some non-perisable foods, flashlights, even SPAM.

Guns are important as self defense. When law enforcement is elsewhere, they provide defense. An old lady with a knife stands little chance against a able guy with a knife, but a gun is an equalizer that gives protection to women and the elderly. If you were a criminal would you prefer to rob a house in Texas or Nottingham?

Christopher M, Houston, TX / USA

First, as a fellow human, let me say that our thoughts and prayers are with the unfortunate victims of this natural disaster. Next, to Paul and Marion, please refrain from your ill-sighted and uninformed opinions on the New Orleans flood. You were not faced with 120+mph winds and 2 ft of rain in two days; you sound pompous and ignorant and reflect poorly on your fellow countrymen.
And finally, to ALL of the people in this thread that have the audacity to think that humans are the CAUSE of any issues relative to (ugh, hate to say the term and watch all of the batty radicals fly from the belfry) Global Warming. This planet is well over 5 billion years old and has seen extremes from one end of the spectrum to the other NOT CAUSED by humans.
While CO2 emissions and methane from global cattle may CONTRIBUTE (very minorly) to this issue, it is far from the cause.
Hang in there UK flood victims, tomorrow is another day!!!

Rick, Rockville, MD/USA

The river Severn when used commercially was regularly dredged, but since barges and petrol tankers no longer use the river there has been no dredging, so the river cannot now cope with the volume of water it used to do.

G.Slater, CHELTENHAM,

Callie,
Yes, by all means, ban the purchase of 2nd homes. While you're at it, ban investment altogether. Once that's done, you can line up the rich against a wall and machine-gun them. Yes, somewhere above, Stalin is gazing down on us, helping us to gently usher in the secular Utopia that will be ours once the rich and religious are all dead and we comrades can live as in happiness, like they do in Cuba. But once you establish happiness in the UK, don't make the mistake that Castro did, waiting 10 years to ban boat building and repair -- otherwise all the best people will escape to France.

Erik, Philadelphia, USA

Re: "Paul,I am so pleased i dont live in the USA. "Everyone should stock food, water, supplies, and weapons." Why on earth would i want to stock weapons?? It seems most of the comments here are from the USA and you dont understand that I have yet to see the looting and theft in this country that were witnessed in New Orleans. Yes We do need a warning about looting because its not the norm here! Dizz, Bognor Regis, England" You Brits sure wanted private weapons from the USA in the 1940 from the dear o;" USA when Herr Adolf was expected to come calling at any moment. We American Citizens were promised that, if we sent our private weapons over there, you'd distribute same to the British people, and send same back when you were finished with them. Neither happened --- these weapons were all destroyed for fear the British people would get their hands on them and be able to protect themselves from both the Bad Guys and the Gov't.

James, Selma, USA

These sorts of floods and similar disasters, while not common occurances, do occur from time to time, and there is much sadness and destruction for those impacted. Governments do what they can, but governments, like the people they represent, are imperfect. It has always been my feeling that I as an individual am responsible for having a basic knowledge about where I live. I have always picked places to live which are out of reach of flooding (no, I'm not and never have been a wealthy person.In fact, I've been close to the poverty line most of my life) If I choose to live, or continue to live, where I may be impacted by flooding, then I must at least take basic precautions such as having enough provisions for at least a few days in reserve, and I should have an exit plan if the flood waters begin to rise. No, I'm not blaming the victims here. I am simply saying, Be aware what kind of disasters can happen where you live, and make appropriate preparations. It's your responsibility.

Dray, Triad, NC

As one of the recipeints of the help from the EU after Katrina I can sympathise with the flood victims and fully apprieciate what they need to help recover. I would also lkie to thank those who did, and continue to send, much needed help to our devistated areas. On the other hand, having been driectly involved with the eye walls of 6 hurricanes I also know how much emergency "help" can come from any form of government. This invariably comes in just two categories, "way too little" and "way too late." The help that does the most good is that which comes from neighbors helping each other, and the faith based charities. Without those two groups thousands more would have died from Katrina. Unfortunately i also know how fast a "civilized society" can deteriorate and the need for a reliable means of self protection. Viewpoint and personal history often deifine an individual's view of "reality."

Fred Tagge, The remains of Pass Christian, Mississipi, USA

At the end of the day when you build new houses and expect them to be connected to old and outdated water mains you have to expect trouble , trees have been uprooted to make way for many of these houses wich once used to abosrb a lot of this water we must learn by whats happened if you cover a place with tarmac and concrete you channel the water to other places, we need drainage man made or natures way money spent on defenses and maintainence has to be found rather than pay the cost these people have . Good luck to you all your my thougts are with you .

H.Davey, swansea, wales

"...and Hazel Blears, the Communities Secretary, among the ministers present. He is expected to visit flood-affected areas this morning."

Will he be taking water with him or do people just have to put up with his face and have a picture taken?
Polticians....

J. Waterman, Mexico City, Mexico

Blame it on the raaiiiinnnnn yeah, yeah. Stop being so whiney and roll up your sleeves. You Brits do act a little too pampered.

Joe, San Diego, USA/CA

Bottom line.............................don't depend on the government for ANYTHING. Remember Hurricane Katrina? You should always have the ability to take care of yourself.

Dave , Rochester, USA/NY

Where can Americans send money and aid to our fellow
Britons? Do you have a British Red Cross? Send link please.

Jim, Phoenix, USA/Arizona

where are the celebrities and rock stars today to help these folks.

jerry, cobb, usa

You Brits are our brothers and sisters, and it really bugs me to hear these unsympathetic remarks from my American neighbors - please keep in mind that there are a few loons in every country and pay them no mind.

Here's hoping that the situation improves very soon for all those affected by the floods!

Vince, Cary, NC, USA

Prayers for you all. This is awful, so many historic structures, I hope as many as possible will be spared. Hang in there friends, we're hoping you get back to normal as soon as possible. Look after each other.

scott, Flat Rock, US/North Carolina

Sorry you're having to go through this, but maybe now you have some perspective. The areas affected severely by Hurricane Katrina were almost the entire square mileage of Great Britain. As we struggled to deal with it, we got nothing but ridicule and scorn from the UK and European press. Your affected area is comparatively tiny. Now you see how hard it is to be prepared and maybe you've gained some valuable perspective. Good luck.

Ryan Harding, Redmond, Washington

As a victim of Katrina, my hopes and prayers go out to all of my brothers and sisters in the UK. We are so weary of the blame game here in the New Orleans area. Progress comes from the people who do things and don't wait around for other s to solve their problems. The countless good deeds and actions of so many people rarely make the news. I know these people are everywhere, especially in the UK with it's courageous history. May God be with all of you.

Raiderdad, Metairie, Louisiana

My heart goes out to my English cousins across the pond. At least they understand that global warming is a fact; Amerikans still think that the earth is flat..

Rev. Oleson, Bangor, Maine

I too would like to apologize for some of my fellow Americans...often it is the ones with the least to say that speak the loudest.
As flooding has ravaged where I live in New England two years in a row now...I know how devastating it can be.
Now is not the time to argue over emergency response, nor is it time to turn on one another. Humanity is at its best while faced with a crisis and I have no doubt our very good friends in England will do just that.
My thoughts and prayers and I can confidently say, the thoughts and prayers of all Americans are with those affected by the floods.

Jon, Gloucester, Massachusetts, USA

If they were ALLOWED to own guns - at least there would be no LOOTING problems! Here in America, we put the 2nd Amendment FIRST.

Wendy Weinbaum, Dallas, TX USA

I am sorry you in the UK are having a hard time. I truly hope things get better.

I really wonder about some of the comments made by the Americans but I do, sadly, remember some of the comments made by those in the UK during times of duress here in the States. Shame we are all lowered to such discourse.

I am afraid that no side holds the higher ground; no matter how much we point fingers.

It is funny though how this is becoming a Right/Left issue though.

Take care and good luck.

Sean, Buffalo, USA, New York

How do we Americans living and working in Britain help to get water, clothes and cash to the flood victims? What are the best charities and relief agencies to donate to in a natural disaster such as this?

Rocky, Burwell, UK

The veneer of society is thin.

Firearms do help to keep private property private.

Police can't be everywhere, can they?

Ah - but wait... the video surveillance cameras, they'll do the job.

Mike, Hilliard, Ohio/USA

Saturday we commemorated the 30 year anniversary of our town being flooded - with much death and destruction. Our thoughts and prayers are with you.

Chopper, Jonnstown, PA, USA

With all my best wishes for all of you in Britain. I am thinking of you and hoping for your safety.

I will ask one thing, from reading the letters shooting back and forth across the pond. Please don't judge our government by the words of Spike Lee and Michael Moore and I won't judge yours by the words of any and all of your malcontents.

Both of our countries are better at providing help for its citizens than 90% of the other countries of the world. And in both our countries our citizens are better at providing for themselves than most countries. Things are not perfect but we should appreciate what we have. If we don't, we risk loosing it.

My prayers are with you all. By the way our television news media is not covering this al all. They are too busy praising Hillary Clinton and bashing Bush. Too much of either and you don't have much time for anything else. Like helping our friends.

NWT, Beaumont, TX, USA

I am so sorry for this horrible flooding. We had something horrible like this in Gulf Area and it takes months, if not years to recover. It is so bad, but luckily lots of people are able to help. Sunday I am sending money for humanitarian relief.

To blame is rediculous, lets get the cleanup and rescue underway.

James, Gig Harbor, WA, USA

Hello My Cousins from Hurricane Alley. So sorry to hear the news TODAY- of your flooding. Either I missed it over the weekend, or our news folks did not do their supposed JOURNALISM. To those who asked where is the help from the yanks: tell me what I personally can do- and I can try to. To the person who said Lyme Ct can only face teh occasional tail end of a 'cane: you have little foresight.... big one have hit there, and can again when they so choose. And there are potentials for terror events that would cause the cities of Boston and New York to swarm out across teh countryside... So, yes preps are good to have- but even if someone had done all the preps described- it can all end up underwater...
To the person who said what about private homes not shelters.... logistical nightmare that would be- determine whose homes not affected, get permissions for how many the palce can fit, then find the displaced family that matches.... Oy.
Hang tight- the water will recede, help will arrive.

charlie, raleigh, USA/ NC

Lord, yes. Ignore those comments from the overly vocal U.S. minority. They represent no one and nothing but narrow minds and reprehensible ignorance. As a survivor of Katrina, my heart goes out to you all. Our prayers are with the victims, the families of all those who are missing, who have lost their homes and those struggling now to survive day-to-day. We are all fallible and vulnerable but we continue to believe in and ask for the support of our fellow countrymen and allies. As human beings, we should never let each other down, in our deeds or our words. I am with you every day. God bless you.

Zorina Byrd, New Orleans, LA

For a clean source of water, tap into your water heater.

Cali_Bigdawg, Sacto, Cali

I just got back from a holiday in the UK, I must have been there during the brief lull between floods.

My best wishes and prayers go to the folks affected by the flooding.

As we (the US) found out a couple of years ago, and as much as we would like to think otherwise, no government can be prepared for damage of this magnitude, they are prepared for a lot of littler emergencies.

What could a government possibly do to prevent this? All they can do is try to help in the aftermath.

Again best wishes to you all.

Darrell, New Berlin, WI, USA

New Orleans is no different than Gloucester or any other city struck by flooding water. It's time for people to pull together as the British have and as Americans did during Katrina and are still doing in Louisiana. This side of the "pond" wishes you "Blokes" nothing but the best. Ta for now!

SueD., Sun City, Arizona

I'm disturbed to see negative remarks from any Americans, when we should be doing all we can to support you at this time. I hate to see that the political situation has become so divisive. Please don't think that many Americans would agree with these rude and foolish posts. What can we do to help?

Lynn Abbey, Cleveland, Ohio, USA

I am another American horrified at some of the responses you have gotten from the US. Their ignorant and judgemental attitude is not shared by all Americans, but sadly it is those types of people that give this beautiful country a bad name. To say anything other than sympathetic words about the terrible conditions some people are struggling with is apalling and shameful.

I am sorry to hear that people are suffering (regardless of who/what is to blame) and am simply grateful that my family here and in Worcestershire are safe and sound. To hint that these people are to blame for not being prepared for 100 different potential disasters (natural or otherwise) is unnecessary and insensitive. We all do what we can with what we've got and I for one would not want to be so paranoid about life and humanity that I have to stockpile arms and supplies for months 'just in case'. I'm more afraid of that mentality than I am any natural disaster.

averi , Bay Area, Ca

Our thoughts and prayers are with you all in the UK. Flooding is one of the worst kinds of disasters to deal with and we hope this whole ordeal is over for you soon. I doubt the news will report the good stories and your stoic efforts--but we know it's happening.

Karen, Atlanta, Georgia/USA

I am an American citizen whow was Lucky enough to Live in Surbiton, Surrey for 2 wonderful years. I would love to move back. I hope my Government can step in and help as we often do in 3rd world countries. You Brits deserve our finest efforts. Much good luck to you all.

mark, Omaha, NE.

Hang in there Brits. We Yanks hope this will be over soon and recovery will go well. Tragedies help us grow closer to our family, friends, and neighbors. Go Liverpool Football Club!

Mike, Lunenburg, USA/MA

The politicians have got to learn that the Voting public of this country dont wan't to hear them blaming each other and trying to score party points , They should get their fingers out NOW and help these unfortunate people who have been flooded out by releasing all funds necessary for the services that we THE PUBLIC have paid for. Or are they waiting for a handout from the very people that we helped in the last Flood / Tsunami

David Good, Frimley Green, Surrey

Help England's sinking.

Ajer, Basingstoke, UK in the Sea

My prayers go to you, the rugged stalwart people of the UK. I cannot apologize for the comments of my fellow countrymen for there are disrespectful people in every culture. Let's just agree that no matter where the institutions hail from, they will never have your best interests at heart. Hopefully some information will come available regarding legitimate charities and organizations willing to bring relief to your people in distress.

Johnny V, San Diego / California, USA

Several years ago my home was flooded due to Hurricane Isabel. I know exactly what it is like for those of you in the UK who now face a most daunting task. It will not be easy, and it will take a long time, but you will recover. My thoughts are with you.

E. B., Hayes, USA/VA

LOL..."high falootin gun toting"...thank God we had those guns during World War 2, or you would be typing that in German.

Bo Tabke, Deadwood S.D.,

This is terrible news. Great Britian is a wonderful and resourceful country. You will rebound from this just like you did from WWII. Keep the stiff upper lip the English are famous for.

James Perkins, Atlanta, U.S.A./ Georgia

The colonials have got a point.

Does anyone remember the glossy booklet sent to every home in 2004 called 'Preparing for Emergencies' by the wonderfully named Civil Contingencies Secretariat ?

I've got my Ray Mears survival booklets ready - just in case.

plowter, Edinburgh, Sunny Scotland

You might have your emergency people have a look see at the state of Alabama's, (USA) emergency preparedness plans for...floods, hurricanes, tornados, electrical storms and electrical blackouts. PLEASE DO NOT FOLLOW OUR HOMELAND SECURITY PLAY BOOK. NOLA is still a mess.

Jason Leverette, Mobile, USA/AL

Has everyone forgotten the novels "A Clockwork Orange" or "Lord of the Flies?" The authors in those books detail progressive deterioration when a crises strikes. Actually, for all of the readers who believe in Darwin's thesis of the evolutionary process, it is really survival of the fittest in its truest forms. We have become so civilized we can not fathom what it is to be hungry, cold and thirsty. Believe me, when your family or loved ones or yourself is faced with starvation, you will act in what is your own best interest and the rest of the world be damned. Right? For the humanist, it is just pure Darwin. And for the religious....well, you will cease to exist.

Linda, New Castle, DE

Hurricane coming? Move out of it's way. No water, but raining hard? Catch rain water in a container. Some people are too stupid to take care of their own lives, they expect the government to save their necks. Wake up people. The day might very well come when government is not there for you. Stop being sheep, be proactive not reactive.

Clint Westwood, Dallas, TX

uh... 90k gal. of water is about 10 swimming pools.

dave, san jose, California

Let's keep a sense of proportion. This is not New Orleans and it beggars belief the comments from some people - they should hardly be extolling the virtues of their response following Hurricane Katrina - that response was truly apalling and people turned on each other.
Here, our emergency services have been fantastic and people are helping each other. We will get through this. Our country has survived worse. If you don't like the way British people respond calmly to such events then don't watch the news. If the only thing you can do is criticise because there has been a report of someone stealing a bottle of water (hardly mass looting!) then it just shows what sort of people you are. Nobody should laugh at other peoples' misfortune.

KP, London,

It just shows that bad things happen to good and not-so-good people. As I recall last year you folks were having a drought, now floods.

G. M. Merrill, Phoenix, USA/Arizona

I apologize for my fellow American's comments. I found it shocking to read comments after Katrina in the fact that people actually found a superior voice when we were stubbling through a crisis. I would have hoped that some of these people have learned from that and would offer something more than spite. Maybe a word of incouragement or a hand.

The area that affected the US in Katrina was the size of England and hit many of our poorest communities. I am not sure that people that had relatives that died in Katrina feel better that you can use there anguish as a center piece of an arguement on how inept we are in comparison.

Here is my hand and best of luck.

Bobby, Houston, TX

I feel deeply sorry for all the individuals who have had their lives disrupted by these floods in the UK. Two years ago your press as well as the European news media gleefully blamed Bush somehow for the disaster in New Orleans (the most corrupt city in the most corrupt state in the USA). In the wake of the weeks of rain and flooding who is the British press going to blame for the lack of response from your government to this flooding? Bush? Probably.... I would love to see what would have happened had these floods hit Brixton or other immigrant neighborshoods in London...

John, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

What sort of excuse for a human buys up all the water to sell it on at £5 a time to people who have no water?

Ben, York,

I live in Oxfordshire and for many years have been complaining to the Councils about the many streams that run across this area they have never been cleared of the rubbish, fallen trees and branches, undergrowth which commpletely blocks them and have never been dredged of the silt and sludgee that fills them. When I lived in Norfolk this was done every year to keep the streams flowing and they never flooded. But due the neglect of our streams and rivers there is nowhere for the water to go except over the topand across land[

carole hoy, didcot oxfordshire, england

The Minsitry of Defence were unwilling to supply trucks and drivers without getting paid. Don't they realise that we have already paid? Are these people so unbelievably stupid that they don't realise they are funded from tax revenues?

I can't take offence at the 'survivalist' American posters they're even more ridiculous than the MOD.

Martin, Reading, UK

You know, I'm really sorry for what's going on over there. It is terrible, and we have experienced the same thing. However, does it really do any good for people to snipe at each other? How do the "environmental issues" of the US affect the flooding taking place in Great Britain right now? The one thing I do agree on is that people should be more self sufficient and rely less on the government. These things happen, and if anybody was paying attention when New Orleans was flooded, it was pretty obvious that the government was not properly equipped to handle the situation. It should have been a wake up call to anybody who lives anywhere water that this could happen to you.

Cody, Seattle, USA, Washington

You Brits will get through this, like you get through everything else thrown in your collective paths. That's why we in the States so admire your nation and your people. In the meantime, please know that our hearts and thoughts are with you, the comments of a few chauvinistic fools nothwithstanding. Please also, will someone post the name(s) of those British (not international) relief agencies accepting money donations to help those most affected by the flooding. Thanks.

Jon Kotler, Calabasas, California, USA

Say there Brits.. The reason us in the USA don't give a damn about you and your moment of peril is because of the way you and yours trash America every chance you get!

Good for the heavens bringing all this rain and flooding upon you, as you deserve it for not respecting us as you should.

Good day to you!

Willy Lamb, Houston, USA / Texas

You think this is something? You can't even begin to imagine what it will be like if and when a birdflu pandemic begins. God help those who did not prepare as they were instructed to - and those who did when those who didn't come begging for food.

i-live-2-ride, Central Florida, USA

This little Island of ours has only just begun to be the receiver of the impact of Global warming. Unlike areas which have suffered differing types of natural disasters for years and are well prepared, we are getting a wake up call to be prepared in the future. So please those Americans who show no compassion dont have a go at people who are suffering hardships at the moment. I am very proud to be English we do have a way with dealing with disasters and yes I do think our government has been slow to respond and so have people not affected by the floods. But now we have experienced what would have been the unthinkable a few years ago; I believe we will be prepared in the future. We do not need guns in this country we are still civilized, of course there are a minority which will loot we have to accept that but there are good and bad in all communities.

When Katrina happened in the USA I offered a holiday free to anyone. How much help has been actually offered from the USA?

Mollie, Exeter, England

Apologies from an American that is ashamed to read (most) of the comments of my countrymen. Conservative Americans never miss an opportunity to spread their poisonous message about gun love and hate for government (any government).
I spend two weeks in Warwick in April 2006. Hope the town and surrounding area recover quickly. Here's hoping for a week of sunny, dry weather!.

Tim H., Denver, Co / USA

I think perhaps some of the American readers commenting here should step back for a moment and consider that since Britain is not constantly at risk from severe floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes or any other major disaster, keeping a constant supply of weeks worth of food and water in our homes would show a ridiculous level of paranoia. This is an unusually bad time for flooding after an unusually wet few months.

Rather than reaching for guns to defend our homes from hordes of rampaging looters, I'm sure we would much rather get stuck in and help each other out as much as possible. A little less hysteria from the US readers wouldn't go amiss. Hmmm... Flood Victims 5, Gunned-Down Members of the Public 50... I can see it now.

Eleanor, York,

My thoughts are with the good people of the UK in their hour(s) of need. I will go onto the Red Cross website to see if there is a way to contribute to these people. There should be a link to a website for the people of the US to help our allies. I know many in my community travel often to England, and will feel strongly in wanting to help. I wish someone at the newspapers would print a link to get financial help to these people. Is there a reputable charity in England that will help these people?

Karen, Hampton Cove, USA/Alabama

I hope you guys pull through OK there. Floods are some of the worst things that nature has to offer at times.

Jesse L., Greensboro, USA, NC

Any way we can blame Bush for this disaster, too???

Dale, ORANGE,

God bless you all. I wish we could help you. We love you and will keep you in our prayers.

Kim, Savannah, GA, United States

It is, indeed, tragic.but natural disasters do happen and it is so often wonderful to see the sense of community when people put all their efforts into helping each other, including Brits empathising with America in its time of need. While my heart goed out to all those affected, I cannot help but compare it to the floods of 1953 when 53 people died in England and 1800 were drowned in the Netherlands. Take heart victims, it will pass.

Roy , Derby,

Tear down all the new houses and plant trees. Build resevoirs to save the excess water--you
will need it in the futire. Deport excess people.

Sebastiano , Sassari, Italia

As an American who has grown up in the UK, I am apalled at my fellow American's comments.

How nice for you that you are all so well prepared for events such as these. Furthermore, I am sure that in your smug self appreciating lives you will never be in such a situation, you have your rations and your guns - jolly good for you. Oh, I forgot, Katrina & New Orleans. Sure, the whole world watched your task forces rally in support of the citizens of New Orleans. Britain and the EU sent money and food in support, while your government did nothing.

As for the looting? It is a rare thing here, Britain is still a civilised societ.y. We have our share of crime, but, in comparison to your high falootin' gun toting, shoot thy neighbour if he be on thy property ways, the Brits are sane as ever - thank god.

Stephanie, Gloucester, UK

Thanks for your insights Dr. Hermannsen. While FEMA's response was obviously pathetic, the situation is barely comparable. For starters, the flooding in America was caused by hurricanes. Also, consider that the state of Louisianna is larger than your entire country. Let's keep things in perspective. What would a fair share of global warming be? Isn't it better to call it global climate change anyhow? That way you can blame ever deviation from "normal" weather can be included.

Midas, Indianapolis, USA

Is it just me or does there appear to be a media and government bias toward this new flooding in the South of the Country. As the economically poorer area's such as Sheffield and Hull received little government interest and significantly less media coverage than this current flooding, are we to assume that the government cares less about the North?

Rich Atkinson, Sheffield,

U.k. should demand money from Arab countries. Arab wars are bankruping U.K. and the U.S. treasuries......

Beverly Bienvenu, Kenner, Louisiana

So the government (aka Gordon) will be paying out cash to the un-insured. Once again the middle classes who pay taxes AND insurance will be subsidising those who spend their money instead on booze, fags and holidays in Torremolinos. Hey..... thats a good idea, I'll cancel the insurance policy (next week!) and I'm off to the pub.

R Williams, Maidenhead, Berkshire

To answer the firearms critics about the reason for having a gun handy: Same reason as having a condom handy. I'd rather have one and not need it, than need one and not have it.

Ralf, reno, TN

Open borders in western countries mean more illegal aliens and migrants. The UK cannot support it's exploding population. Open-borders will mean a continued population surge in the UK with more sprawl and more homes being built. The UK will be totally paved over if the trend continues. . Rivers flood and have flooded for centuries. Homes should not be built close to rivers. We will see more of this in the future and it will not be due to "global warming." It seems like every catastrophe today is blamed on global warming nonsense.

Franc, West Palm Beach, FL USA

Hey Chris from London... neat info... but I am kind of wondering how many of these areas have electric since so many of the homes seem to have water in them.

probably easier to start a fire to boil some water and then collect water from the steam... or just drink the boiled water.

I'd like to think I am prepared for something like this... but to be honest I would be in bad shape myself... but flooding isn't something I am worried about where I am.

Chris, Cincinnati, OH, USA

I cannot believe how badly the Government (local and central) have managed this disaster. This is not a criticism of the Fire Service who have done and continue to do an amazing job. It's all very well central and local governments having emergency meetings but actions speak louder than words and plans should already be in place to cope with such a disaster.

We are quick enough to send help to other countries who have suffered similar disaters so why on earth can't we help our own people? Having contaminated water is bad enough but being unable to obtain bottled water is an absolute disgrace.

In an ideal world we should have stocks of food and water but we should remember that not all of us have cars to transport such huge suplies, have homes big enough to store such supplies or the finances to purchase in advance. Yes we should all take some responsbility but our Govenrment should lead the way.

Ava Mintz, Surbiton, UK

To Anne from Lyme. You have nothing to worry about, if there's one place in the world pretty much free from worry with regards to natural disaster, its probably Connecticut. Apart from the tail end of a hurricane every few years Connecticut's only threat to a human is the, in this case appropriate, Lyme disease. Plus, in the US, the people with all the extra supplies are always those who need it the least, I can tell you people in N.O. had not even half a weeks worth of extra supplies. They couldnt afford to stock up at the local Super Stop n' Shop, being able to buy a few weeks of supplies is in no way the same as being able to survive on one's own

dpf, London,

The government has given a green light to tidal power generation in the Bristol channel and the favourite method so far appears to be a barrage.It would be interesting to know what effect this would have on the probably inevitable repeat of the current situation.It seems to me to be yet another advantage of tidal lagoons for the generation of cheap,clean and almost limitless power for this country.

jerym eedy, caerphilly, U.K.

re comment move stop complaining. How do people living in flood plains move? would you want to buy their house?

Carole, ely, East Anglia

A very small number of people react hysterically or greedily in any emrgency and inevitably the media looks for newsy situations to report rather than regarding the general stoicism and good manners of the vast majority. It is always amazing how friendly and helpful people become in adversity. We should treat with contempt the few who act irresponsibly and the raucous voices who relate natural disasters to their own particular hobbyhorse.
As always there is genuine public concern for the families displaced by the ruin of their homes and livelihoods whether North, South, East or West and perhaps there is hope for humanity after all.

David Cotterell, Cheltenham, United Kingdom

Wow. The only thing I can do is echo my fellow American Deborah B. Luyster, who wrote, "I apologize for the rude and reprehensible comments in response to this report from the American writers. They do not respresent the American public whose thoughts are with you in recovering from this disaster."

This is no doubt part of human nature, but idiots tend to speak the loudest and with the least tact, and as a result, give the impression that their numbers are greater than they actually are. Please ignore them. Our thoughts are with you as you deal with this crisis.

Todd Bernhardt, Vienna, VA, USA

MOD unwilling to supply drivers and lorries unless they could be guaranteed they would be paid for their services. I thought that one of the roles of the Armed Forces was to assist in times of emergency. Some high ranking officers need to be court martialled.

Cameron Gill, Basseterre, St. Kitts-Nevis

It's a telling comment on transatlantic cultural differences that while some US readers are advising those suffering the floods to stock up on ammo and be ready to shoot anyone who tries to steal your tinned food or DVD player, a more typical actual reaction seems to be this one quoted in today's Times: "David Mitchelson, 65, and his wife, Leelea, 61, were house-sitting their friends’ cottage [while s]ipping tea after bailing out water that breached the defences."

Thank goodness that British stoicism and civility still seems to exist. If gun-culture ever comes to Tewkesbury (almost a stereotype of a small English market town) we might as well all pack up and leave, as Britain will truly have ceased to exist!

Neil, Cambridge,

Why not ban the purchase of 2nd homes rather than rushing ahead with ill conceived plans to rush through millions of homes on unsuitable sites.

It is obscene that rich folk from out of area can come in and buy homes for fun or investment whilst local people have to do without.

Callie Gauntlett, Milverton, Somerset

Marion, is that all you can do is compare your flood to Katrina...I just read this article...did you? Looting, pushing kids...doesnt sound very civilized...BTW, I cant recall anyone being killed/crushed at an American Football game...we dont even have a fence around the interior of the stadiums...I know those 1-nil soccer matches are terribly exciting, but come on...sheesh

Dave, Washington, DC

What is this country coming to? I am 26 and for the last 10 years have worked 1, 2 and at times 3 jobs at once to pay into this governments coffers. Now it seems that although there is no money for my university education or provision for me to own a home Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and his cronies can live in luxury while watching the public get swept away in flood water. I bet Downing Street would not be ruined if the Thames rose up. As a previous commenter mentioned I rather thought I had already funded the MoD so it would be nice if they could motivate themselves out of the heavily subsidised mess halls on RAF bases etc to come and do some proper work.

Laura, York,

Er, Yanks - much as we appreciate the anti-Labour comments, this isn't New Orleans and people haven't started shooting at each other. Sense of perspective, please. And yes, global warming is a problem, as every self-respecting scientist will tell you.

Tom, London,

Thank-you Deborah for your apologies for the unhelpful comments sent in by some of your fellow Americans.
Flooding has got more frequent and worse partly as a result of the extensive housebuiding that has been indiscriminate over the last 20 years and will continue. There is not the infrastructure in place to compensate for the land lost to building which would have soaked up much of the rain water.
As this is going to be an on-going state of affairs, the UK Government should institute a mechanism for declaring a 'state of emergency' whereby all emergency services and the Armed Forces are put on 'alert' when there is evidence that a natural disaster may occur. Instead, they stick their heads in the sand and hope it will go away, which is what happened in the 1998 Easter floods by which I was affected. Our 'forces' should be here to help US, not fighting in 'foreign' wars. That is not what we pay our taxes for!

A O'Donnell, Banbury, UK

Many of us keep stockpiles of dry/tinned food, long life milk etc, but many do not. It is not something on which others should be judged.

That which concerns me is fresh drinking water and also the potential health risks that flood water present.

The most vulnerable groups as ever are the young, elderly, special needs and infirm.

Why, in a supposedly 'civilised' country are people having to be accommodated in emergency shelters? Where is the charity of our fellow man?. Why are people who live in proximity to the flooded areas, but who have clean drinking water not offering to take others into their homes?

Yes, there are plenty of things that are 'wrong' with the system, but surely an immediate remedy for people who have been evacuated, is to give them somewhere to call home for however long it takes for this situation to be resolved, not a makeshift shelter somewhere.

SW, SW, UK

When you see police lifting water bottles off lorries to help the people, and civilians filling sand bags the question should be... where are the troops? Where indeed Mr B.

The media has decided not to comment. The people will do soon.

David (SE1), London,

Chin up mates.... smile and sing a song. You're spending a lot of money in Iraq, bringing "democracy" to the massses. Surely uou are willing to put up with a bit of discomfort at home.

Dutch, Otto, Wyoming, US of A

I never thought there'd be an advantage to living in the North West ...

starling, Lancaster,

Well said Marion from London.

I find the advice of the US citizens quite astounding considering their propensity to flooding and subsequent defective crisis management.

And don't even mention their record on environmental issues....

Paul, Esher, Surrey

You can extract water from the air using an air pump like they use for inflating tires and a aquarium ariator put on the output.

The airiator should be enclosed in a tin with a hole to collect the water and the tin enclosed in expanded polystyrene.

The bit of metal tube that connects between the rubber hose and the airiaor (it is a pourous materal that passes air) shoud have cooling fins welded on. You can get these heat sinks from electronics shops like maplin.

These are used in australia. The water comes from water vapour in the air.

The amount of water you get per hour depends entirely on the power on the motor, the rate = power/latent heat of evapration of water. Power in watts, Latent heat in joules/kg, amount of water in kg/sec.

Chris, London, UK

Frank in Winchester:

There's a very old looking church in a lot of pictures of the floods. The fact is towns were historically built in flood plains because the river provided water, tansport, defence plus the bridge would usually be a road junction, so a natural trading location.

The problem is the deforestation of hills, increased use of drainage and hard surfacing throughout the river's catchment area has created a rush hour effect with the rain water. Rather than slowly feed into the river; the rain water now rushes into the river, creating a shorter but much higher peak flow.

Luke, London, UK

Clearly George Bush is at fault for the floods . Had he not been under the scope fior polyp removal he would have summoned FEMA or other agency to assist the Brits . Now I know my friend Noah was right. I sure hope he had the sense to retain a pair of eels from the river seven.

Eric Albronda, Mount Shasta, California

Could the governments response to the recent flood disasters be dependant on where they occur? If its a marginal seat where their actions will potentially affect voting patterns then assist. But “Up North” where voters are taken for granted by Labour just say the usual platitudes, that will pacify the press till the headlines pass. Meanwhile keep pumping our money into an unjust, unwanted & illegal war. You are presiding over a shambles of your own making Mr Brown.

Michael Mallin, Sheffield,

Instead of spending money on non-essentials, such as cable, video games, big TVs, etc., people should always have stockpiled 2 weeks worth of canned food, DRY milk, 10 gallons of drinking water per person, diapers, etc. for babies, canned formula, batteries, crank radio, candles and matches, large and small plastic bags, smaller garbage cans to use as temporary toilets, and here in the USA be armed to fend off those who would take it from a family. In England, of course, the GOOD people have been disarmed, only the thugs have guns. Here in our USA home, we have enough emergency rations for 4 to 6 weeks, and drinking and flushing water and everything we need. Catastrophes, either natural or man-made can and do happen, and no one should depend on the authorities, but only th