Richard Ford, Home Correspondent
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Airlines want to share information on “air rage” incidents to draw up a blacklist of passengers who would not be allowed to fly again.
The industry is suggesting an expansion of the Government’s £1.2 billion ten-year electronic borders programme, which aims to improve border security, by sharing passenger information with law-enforcement agencies.
The emergence of a wider range of passengers who could be barred from flying — other than suspected terrorists and previous immigration offenders — is disclosed in a Home Office paper on the electronic borders scheme.
The paper assesses the impact of more information being gathered by airlines and shipping carriers on travellers in advance of them leaving or arriving in Britain. The information would be cross-checked against lists of criminals and suspects held by police, the security service, Immigration Service and Revenue and Customs.
The report says that developing electronic borders allows for the investigation of “the possibility of e-borders maintaining a centralised ‘disruptive passengers’ list that can be shared with carriers”.
At present British airlines report all “disruptive passenger” or air-rage incidents to the Civil Aviation Authority — but not the names of those responsible. In the 12 months to March 2006, there were 1,359 incidents — 1,303 classed as “significant” and 56 as “serious”.
Virgin said that it backs the principle of a centralised list of disruptive passengers, but said that it would be more effective if it were a global database. A spokesman added: “The key is that we would have to ensure it was accepted by the Information Commissioner and that it was accurate.”
Ministers believe that the electronic border programme will help to stop migrant, tax and benefit scams estimated to cost £2 billion a year. The programme would also enable them to track foreigners who have left the country owing more than £9 million to the NHS for treatment received. The programme could also be used to target suspected tobacco smugglers and prevent offenders who have failed to pay their fines from leaving the country on holiday.
The paper says that e-borders would allow the easy identification of those who falsely claim non-domicile or non-resident status to avoid UK income tax or who continue to claim social security benefits despite living abroad permanently. It is estimated by the Department of Work and Pensions that £35 million a year is being fraudulently claimed in benefits by those who have left the UK but claim that they still live here.
The paper also says that the programme could help to improve the enforcement of fines if the courts imposed travel bans on offenders who have failed to pay their penalty. “Eborders could also contribute to compliance on fine enforcement, if provisions were issued prohibiting travel overseas whilst fines remain unpaid and confiscation orders undischarged.” Unpaid fines currently amount to £487 million and unpaid confiscation orders at £300 million.The ten-year e-borders programme will involve a huge increase in the amount of information gathered on passengers, which will then be provided to the Government and law-enforcement agencies.
In addition to providing nine basic details about passengers, if airlines and shipping firms have further information the Government wants that too. The total could amount to 53 separate pieces of information including the date on which reservations were made, holiday contact telephone numbers and baggage tag numbers issued at check-in flights. Carriers would be required to provide information 24 to 48 hours prior to departure.
Spots of turbulence
— High-profile “air rage” incidents include the arrest of the rock singer Courtney Love at Heathrow in 2003. She was cautioned for causing harassment, alarm and distress after Virgin staff said she shouted abuse at them. Ian Brown, the former Stone Roses singer, was jailed for four months in 1998 for using threatening behaviour towards an air stewardess. The rapper Snoop Dogg was cautioned for his part in a brawl at Heathrow last year
— In June Trevor Blake, 44, from Luton, was jailed for a year after a BA flight from Gatwick to the Caribbean had to be diverted. He had sex with his girlfriend in the aircraft lavatory and became abusive after being refused alcohol
— The same month Phillip Payne, 43, from Monmouthshire, was jailed for eight months for a drunken airborne tantrum on a flight from Gatwick to Cyprus. He drank ten pints of beer and two whiskies before boarding, then a bottle of vodka and two bottles of red wine on board. Payne shouted abuse and threatened to kill an air steward. The pilot diverted the flight to have him removed
Source: Department of Transport; Times Database
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In reply to "Mick London"
Why penalise the vast majority for the sake of a few idiots?
On a long haul flight a drink is very useful to help relax and even sleep.
No knee-jerk reactions please.
Short flights OK. May encourage people not to drink especially as many will be collecting a car at their destination airport.
Dek Crossingham, Birmingham, England
Re AW's comment.
Why on earth would the crew MAKE-UP such an allegation? NO ONE ever ADMITS that they are drunk or disruptive/abusive at the time - and sometimes not even afterwards...
The crew MUST have total authority - our lives (not to mention our comfort!) depend on it.
But I do agree - don't serve alcohol (except wine with dinner, maybe?) on planes!
(And certainly don't let people take their duty-free purchases into the cabin - that's just asking for trouble... Duty free should be available at the airport of ARRIVAL, not departure - why fly heavy liquids/bottles around the world?!)
And why should he (and it's almost always men) get a refund! That's just crazy. Make him compensate not only the airline, but every single passenger, also!
Martin, Nr Lichfield, UK
Sounds like a great idea and it will certainly make the flying experience more comfortable for the everyday traveler. However, I do hope the screening process is accurate and that the screened individual have the right to challenge their inclusion on the list in a fast efficient manner. I also hope it reflects a degree of intelligence, unlike the US no fly list, which after more than a year of requests finally allowed a 2 year old baby to travel to the US to live with its family as his name happened to be similar to some hard core gun toting scar faced terrorist somewhere in the world.
Farrukh, Woking, UK
Why don't the airlines simply anaesthetise passengers before take-off, saving the hassle of looking after them?
The example above of the man who drank a bottle of vodka and two of red wine is just stupid. It would take an exceptionally dumb cabin crew to allow that to occur.
John Annis, London,
Yes Mick of London, penalise the majority for the minority once again. When are we going to stop this?
95% of people are law abiding when they fly, a lot of us don't even have a drink at the airport any more, because they are not nice places to be, but like a glass or two of wine etc for the long journey.
Do what you have to do to penalise the rougue few in whatever way you have to but leave the majority of us alone we are getting thoroughly fed up with this blanket response to problems.
The minority groups are becoming a pain and spoiling our way of life. Thankfully most of us are responsible adults but resent being treated like naughty school children.
Samantha Jones, Bucks, England
"£35 million a year is being fraudulently claimed in benefits by those who have left the UK but claim that they still live here."
I am all for chasing these people who commit the above. The problem is that if they live in Western Europe they never fly to the UK. They always go by road through the tunnel. My guess is that those making fraudulent claims are possibly responsible for unpaid fines as well.
If people are suspected of this fraud then a policy of 'appear, prove who you are, and get paid' should be adopted every month over a 6 month period.
Of course this will never happen, the liberal pc legal lobby would have a field day. So people commit fraud with impunity and fines go unpaid and good honest people are penalised via tax.
Lets turn the fines policy on its head. Tell the offender that he is going to jail immediately for, say 7 or 10 or 20 days but he can buy himself out, paying the fine in cash. That should reduce the fines mountain.
Nigel Graham-Miller, Valencia, Spain
Drink affects
people more at altitude
Stop giving people alcohol on planes!
mick, london, uk
I totally agree provided that there is some form of Appeal for those wrongly and unjustly accused at the cost of the Airline concerned! I think also that the Accused Person should get an immediate and total cash refund of the amount he paid out for the ticket, and if the Airline made an unfounded allegation they be made to pay substantial damages! They do, after all, have the right to refuse to take a disruptive, or inebriated Passenger at the start of the journey. All alcoholic Drinks should be banned whilst in flight!
Anthony WALKER, Louth, England