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BRITAIN’S oldest naval base at Plymouth will close within five years with the Royal Navy’s submarines moving to Faslane in Scotland, senior defence sources said this weekend.
The base at Devonport from which Drake set sail to destroy the Spanish Armada and Cook embarked to discover Australia will have five of its frigates axed in defence cuts expected within weeks. Its expertise in refuelling and refitting nuclear submarines has become irrelevant because the new Astute submarines will have nuclear cores that last for the life of the vessel.
With only two of the navy’s existing nuclear submarines still requiring mid-life servicing, both naval and industry sources said last week that the dockyard had no long-term future.
The dockyards will therefore be allowed to wither on the vine in favour of Portsmouth and Rosyth, in the Firth of Forth - despite assurances from Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and Des Browne, the defence secretary, that the dockyard had a future.
A review of the navy’s three bases (Plymouth, Portsmouth and Rosyth) had been expected to result in the closure of Plymouth or Portsmouth. Browne told MPs in July that the review had ended with a decision to keep all three dockyards open along with the submarine base at Faslane, on the Scottish west coast, but this weekend sources challenged this assertion.
They said Devonport’s future would be nonexistent once the last two Vanguard submarines were refuelled in 2012. The axing of the five frigates will leave Plymouth with just nine surface ships and seven Trafalgar-class submarines, which will be replaced by the Astute submarines based at Faslane. Its six remaining frigates and three amphibious ships will be moved to Portsmouth, a senior naval source said.
“All that Plymouth will have will be the rusting hulks of the Trafalgar and Swiftsure class, which will be decommissioned slowly over the next five years as the Astute class comes into service,” he added.
Gary Streeter, Conservative MP for Devon South West, said: “When the naval base review took place we thought it was a two-horse race. We have somehow managed to come third. There is a great anxiety now that we will suffer a death by a thousand cuts.”
Naval and industry sources suggested Browne’s dual role as defence and Scottish secretary, and the fact that many Rosyth workers live in Brown’s constituency counted against Plymouth.
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And when Scotland gets its independence? Outsource it all to India, presumably.
David Masu, Zürich,
With a Scottish PM and Defense Secretary could we really expect a sympathetic ear for the South West. These two won't be happy until they have put all our nuclear submarines in the bottleneck that is Faslane. This will further add to the Navy's massive retention problems as even some Scottish submariners can't abide being there. At least the £300M spent on the dry dock in Devonport won't have gone to waste, with the latest earthquake to hit Britain, Plymouth residents can take sanctuary there!!
Paul Kirby, Bath, England
The Royal Navy can no longer project power. The retirement of the Sea Harrier without replacement spelled the end of ever putting the newly acquired amphibious force to sea in a hostile environment, air cover is a must as learned in the Falklands. Any further cuts in the number of frigates/destroyer would effectively see the end of the Royal Navy as a fighting force. This Labour government has succeeded in accomplishing Neil Kinnocks goal of reducing the RN to a coastal defense force. The Royal Navy is not a unit in the US Navy and must be able to project power on its own. I fnot then the UK must admit it is nolonger willing to have a say on the world stage and have its seat as a permanent member of the UN security council merged into one seat for Europe.
Andrew Feinman, New York, NY, USA
The marine industry is dead in the uk. Once Plymouth closes, the slow death will spread like cancer to the remining yards until they are a shadow of their former selves. Eventually there will only one base for subs in Scotland ( the nuclear aspect is likely to permitted or excused because of jobs at stake by Scottish Govt) and a base for ships in England. This truth is one that no politician dares to speak., given that it is difficult to see how the Royal Navy will ever be a resource will gain proportionally in terms of future overall government spending.
Ian, Bristol, uk
Listen to the sound of the developer's champagne corks popping. Five to seven miles of prime river frontage. A nice place to retire for those who have made this country a cosmopolitan mess.
Pat, Plymouth, U.K.
This was on the cards for some time and i find it amazing that people are up in arms so soon.
being in the Navy for the last 12 years i never did understand why we needed not one but two south coast bases when the trouble if any, will be coming from the East or over the top and round Scotland.
Rosyth has never been closed down just scaled down and with it having the contract for the new Carrier(s) and being better located to protect trouble from russia or at leat that direction it makes perfect sense to me. Dont blame the PM he like some of us can see where the next war is coming from!!!!
Tom, Dunfermline, Scotland
Well lets hope that Scottish independance comes soon.
Phil, Plymouth, England
Plymouth needn't worry too much about the Nuke Sub fleet. By 2012 the Scottish government will have closed Faslane nuclear facilities and returned the Trident missiles to England. Scotland intends to be nuclear free. No missiles, No nuke Subs and no nuclear power stations. Good luck England - Chatham might make a good Nuclear base, nice and close to London.
Sanny, Glasgow, Scotland
Just exactly how the Westminster Parliament will be able to place English Nuclear Submarines in Faslane or Rosyth in five years time is a very strange claim.
The English People will not have to worry about the potential loss of English Jobs because Scotland will be an Independant Nation that will not accept foreign nuclear vessels being housed in our terratories. Scotland does not wish any nuclear vessels or nuclear power stations in our Sovereign Nation, especially if it involves the loss of English Peoples livliehood.
Of course the English People would be better off by declaring English UDI and the establishment of an English Parliament run by English People who protect the interests of their own people first and foremost. The supposed preference of English Towns located near the Scottish Border to transfer their nationality is a nice compliment, but not practicable. We have no claims on English Lands other than the Lands that were Scottish at the time of Union.
Mike, Edinburgh, Scotland