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Two Fathers 4 Justice campaigners scaled the roof of Harriet Harman's house today forcing the Leader of the House of Commons and her husband to abandon the property.
Dressed in red and blue Superman costumes, Jolly Stanesby, 39, and Mark Harris, 49, both from South Devon, unfurled a banner reading “A father is for life, not just conception” from the grey, slate tiles of the Deputy Labour Leader's semi-detached property in Dulwich, South London
The duo then relaxed on the gables in the sun, waving to neighbours and the gathering crowds in what is the latest of a series of high-profile fathers' rights protests by the group since it formed in 2002.
Ms Harman had remained oblivious to the "superheroes" on her roof until local children started waving up at them. However at 2.30pm Ms Harman emerged with her husband to declare they were leaving, to spare the public purse.
“We are going to move out and stay somewhere else. I don’t think it’s fair for police resources to be tied up outside my house by this demonstration and it’s not fair on the neighbours,” she said.
“We came in through the side gate at 8.15 this morning,” said Mr Harris, a driving instructor, speaking to The Times by mobile phone from the roof. “We just walked in.
“Then we climbed up the back extension onto the flat roof from where we could get to the very top. My own house is more secure than this.”
He said he had asked police acting as mediators to present Ms Harman with a copy of his book, Family Court Hell, which details his decade-long struggle to gain access to his three daughters, including a prison sentences for waving to them across a supermarket car park.
“We have asked her to read it and then we're going to ask her some questions on it,” he said. “If she can answer them all correctly, then we will come down."
Championing the reform of Britain's family law system and equal contact and parenting rights for separated parents, Fathers 4 Justice members have become infamous for breaching public buildings and scaling them dressed as larger-than-life comic book characters.
Ms Harman's suburban red-brick home is a far cry from the Royal Courts of Justice or Buckingham Palace, which Fathers 4 Justice members scaled in 2003 and 2004. But the group insisted Ms Harman was an obvious target.
“Harriet Harman is part of a Government that has presided over the chaos of family law for ten years,” said Darryl Westell, a 26-year-old member who arrived to cheer on his friends. “She and her party have advocated the total removal of fathers' rights.”
Mr Westell, who spent “£20,000 and a lot of heartache” fighting for the right to see his five-year-old son after he separated from the boy's mother, said he was supposed to be on Ms Harman's roof himself, but his alarm had failed to go off that morning.
“I'm probably lucky,” he admitted. “They will stay up there for as long as it takes. These guys are determined.”
In January 2004, Mr Stanesby, a registered child minder and father-of-one, sat on top of Tamar Bridge in Plymouth for seven days. Ms Harman's roof, in comparison, was quite luxurious, he said.
“It's beautiful up here. It's hot and sunny and we've got great views of London.”
“We've got plenty of food and water and a couple of books – I'm reading Martin Luther King's autobiography.
“And if we need the loo, we're hoping Harriet might let us use hers.”
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I was a former member of Fathers 4 Justice, i went on protestest across country, all we want is to see our kids.Well fortunately for me i see my daughter, i never trusted my Solicitor.Read my article on Men's Aid, Hereford "A Feminist Dictatorship, under feminism. This is what feminist's do!!!
Pete, Hereford, Herefordshire
If you agree with Fathers-4 Justice; that men and women should have equal rights to see their children post divorce or separation there is something you can do. There is a demonstration tomorrow (Friday 13th June) in Bristol at the job centre BS1 2NQ. Starting at 10 am. Stand up and be counted!!
Beth, Hythe, UK
Are not the Fathers for justice campagners the suffrojets of the day, if the law makers aren't listerning then peacefull protest is justified the Family law courts are a travisty of justice and until the Law Lords (Ward has) recognise it this type of thing will go on until it is rectified
Dave Farmer, Broxbourne, England
What about the destruction of children's rights? Children all over the country are being forced to attend contact centres to play "happy families" with fathers who have abused them and their mother.
DV has increased in this country. The Governmen's answer to this is to bully the victims!!!
Barbara , Staffordshire, England
Interesting that the BBC News referred to Harman as a 'low risk terrorist', which is why she had no police protection.
David Leslie, Perth, Scotland
If there is to be any real effort, by this government, to improve childhood a good start would be for Ms Harman to get up on the roof and listen to what the fathers have to say.
She may then recognise the plight of the 'isolated' children and will discover how poorly they are being served by law!
Tessa Boo, London ,
The system is wrong, my ex has the children not for love but for the money, they are not happy, I'm not happy, she's in the garden getting a tan. - Come on boys force them to make a change, I'll hold your cape.
Bob, Worcester, UK
Woman see children as their property, when they should be a property at all.
Rui, Lisbon,
The Suffragettes did far worse... I suppose they were a fine example for their children then?
Howard, Manchester,
She had the chance to do more for the Labour party than she has ever done. A quick climb on the roof, a read of the book and a share of the sandwiches. And some great PR would have been had for all. What did she do ? Walked away. !
Like Labour has walked away from the care of this country !
Dave, Lincoln,
True super-heroes.
Martin, Poole, UK
The establishment veiw the choices of seperated fathers to be determined by the mother. Many seperated fathers find that the time they have "allocated" impossible to to either sustain or build bonds with their children. The state would rather see the destruction of good parents then to admit error
barry gaynor, peterborough, england
Fathers 4 Justice
i say fair play to these poor fathers who at the end of the day want to see their children. i will support them all the way. KEEP CLIMBING LADS. your children would be proud of you like we are.
Terence Stimson, Colwall, Worcestershire
God bless you guys! When your kids learn what you did for them, you will be their super heroes!
Shelly B, Rio Rancho, New Mexico, USA
The law IS equal for mothers and fathers. The way it usually works out (that the mother has the children live with her) is just relfective of society. Women are usually the primary carers so they continue to be. It's just about maintaining the status quo. Only v v bad fathers don't get contact!
Amy Rose, Southampton, UK
First Harriet walked the streets of Peckham in a bullet proof vest and now we find she doesn't even live in her constituency but Dulwich instead!
Phil, Peckham / Camberwell,
Can these ministers get nothing right? A courageous person would have gone on to the roof and had a chat. These guys aren't dangerous, just aggrieved - and knowing a little about the arrogance and incompetence of some judges, probably with justification.
Richard, Royston, UK
men and women should have equal standing, simple as that. 90% of child custody cases ends with the mother taking the child. absolute rubbish. as fathers are disregarded teenage crime will continue to increase. this society is becoming fatherless.
giles, uk,
Shame on those who are pulling men down who are trying to be allowed to see their children. Women don't know what it's like as you have 100% protection from the law compared to mens -100%. If the shoe was on the other foot, your comments would be the exact opposite.
Mark, London, England
HO HO-couldn't happen to a nicer person; at least in the pic she's not wearing the anti stab vest she used when she visited her own constituency in nearby Peckham- it's true that the Family courts are biased against men, but there's nothing we can do about it, no wonder these men are frustrated
Marcos, South London, England
Kim's a bit bitter and twisted. There was a nice article from a Family Court Judge in the Times in 2006 who found himself on the sharp end of the Family Courts. He basically said he understood what men were complaining about now!
Kim, just cos you don't like your ex doesn't mean he's a bad man.
Ted, Cheshire,
So she and her husband are off to stay "somewhere else". Who's paying for that? 10-1, Harperson and HarHusband are off to a luxury hotel which she'll then stick on her expenses. And, how do we know she's telling the the truth about them not asking for a meeting? I wouldn't believe a word she says.
JJ, London,
To those commenting on the stupidity of the stunt. I wonder how many would have said the same about the Pankhurst ladies a hundred years ago? Stunts are part of legitimate protest. No-one is being injured, there are no weapons or hostages. No property is being deliberately destroyed.
David B, Larkhall, UK
Phew, luckily Ms Harman has a second house, hoorah for mp's expenses and yaboo to the fathers for justice
cc, london, uk
So let me get this straight. We are supposedly under such dire threat of terrorism that Ms. Harman and her govt have systematically attacked one of our ancient and hard won protections against dictatorship after another, yet a couple of amateurs can get onto her roof while she's in. Someone's lying!
Mark Sadler, London, UK
surely each case needs to be judged on it's individual merits.
M. Chat, London,
Clearly this person has never been near a family court. The judge in my case berated me for my 'audacity' in bringing the case to court as i already saw my daughter once every two weeks, that is what you're up against
mark hampson, Manchester, England
It's the Flash! not a red superman. Honestly
Alex, Canterbury,
It's just great to see people with imaginative ways to show their anger and discontent towards these arbitrary laws... I live in Spain where the law has been bent to disregard the presumption of innocence when the infringent is a man... Talk about sex discrimination...
carlos, madrid, spain
I am a devoted father of my seven year old daughter. My ex has totally erased me from my daughter's life for no reason other than spite. It took me twelve visits to court to even get parental responsibility. Perhaps its time for me to quit my job as a copper and join them on the roof.
ANDY, POOLE, DORSET
It simply shows that people will become vigilantes when they can no longer trust the impartiality of the judiciary or the welfare services.
James, Newcastle, UK
Good luck to them! Until you have had the misfortune of being sucked into the Family Court system you won't understand how sick it is.
Plus...to all the people who criticise them: How would you know what these courts are like...they're secret and it's contempt of court to talk about what happens!
Mark, London,
Perhaps F4J should be embracing HH's house round the outside instead - after all the Greenham Common women 'embraced the base ' , so it should be OK by Harman , Joan Ruddock and the like .
Ian , Isleworth,
Judging by a lot these comments, there are an awful lot of bitter men and women out there! Rather than making blanket statements, surely each case needs to be judged on it's individual merits. And surely if there are injustices going on in the court system, we should ALL be up in arms about it.
M. Chat, London,
Whenever I encounter a feminist bleating on about women's rights, I always ask her why she doesn't campaign as vocally for equality on the divorce laws and the parental access laws.
I have yet to meet one who hasn't shut up straight away.
Jon Leigh, Southern, France
The readers who make negative comments about F4J cannot know anything about the workings of our secret family courts. Ostensibly the secrecy is to protect the children and families but in reality it is to protect the judges and prevent the public learning about the terrible injustice taking place.
William Hammond, Widnes, United Kingdom
@ Name withheld, Manchester, UK. I know a mather that is a drunk, a drug user, a bully with mental health problems. Did that stop her having the coustody of her 3 children from 3 different fathers? No. In this country the law says woman are good mathers by nature, but fathers have to prove it.
ps, bournemouth,
F4J ask yourselves is this really the right way to restablish contact with your children? There are always two sides to every story but actions like this, viewed by the courts in the cold light of day can hardly be helping individual cases!
Get off the roof, get around a table and talk like adults.
Cel, London,
To some of you commenting, who says these guys aren't "good role models" so no wonder they don't have their children, you lost the plot. You obviously have never seen a child custody case up close and personal. Noone should be able to say I can not see my child because I am not a good role model!
Krista, London, UK
I'm glad somebody is finally doing something. The government will not listen to reasoned debate, the only debate that ever goes on is the one in the house of commons, but what can we expect from them other than towing the party line? This is not a democracy it's a cleverly veiled dictatorship.
Peter, Wigton,
I love the picture above. You can almost see a cartoon speech-bubble emanating from Ms. Harman's mouth.
"Curses! The superheroes have arrived just in time to foil my diabolical plan to enslave all men. I will get my minions to deal with them."
Tony Brown, Bath, England
She doesn't look very happy, does she?
Ho-ho-ho!
Pat Bateman, London,
I know someone who is in fathers for justice. He has a juvenile attitude, the idea he is entitled to an infinite number of second chances despite drink/drug use, court appearances and bullying of the child. A feckless man who rushed into having babies because it gave him a feeling of self worth.
Name withheld, Manchester, UK
Another example how Labour have sought to break up the family by giving rights of the female over the male. Justice and equality do not exist if you are a male under Labour
steve tea, manchester, cheshire
Good for them, I wish them luck. What with all the news recently about the government not considering fathers essential, I'm glad they are making a stand. It needs to be backed up with sober arguments and research, though, so they will be taken seriously across the board.
Amy Allen, London,
My husband has not seen his children for 8 years despite a court order granting access (that cost a fortune!). Women should not be allowed to flout the law in this way without any penalty.
It's about time fathers had equal rights to women; after all they are the ones paying for their children.
Sue, Solihull, England
Made my day - couldn't have happened to a more unpleasant person. Still laughing!
Peter, Cambridge,
These men are so pathetic and if one was my father i'd rather eat pigs swill than admit to it.
Infantile losers!
kim, london,
We know nothing of this man's history, he has obviously been been denied access to his daughters for 10 years for a reason or maybe those of who championing him think it doesn't matter what he has done and should be allowed access regardless?
I hope they are thrown in jail for trespressing!
kim, london,
These men are not helping their cause they're just demonstrating very clearly why they don't have access to their children. They are hardly good role models sitting on someone else's roof dressed in stupid costumes.
Jill, Boston, UK
What example to children are women who use their children to punish former partners?
Why do we always fixate upon the failings of men and ignore those of women?
Women are the problem. Their selfish conduct and false allegations and finacial greed. Its coming to an end.
jo, london, uk
"Extremist sympathisers were accused of plotting to kidnap Mr Blair's son Leo."
Accused by whom?
As I recall, the accusation died a death, having served its useful purpose as far as the man-hating feminists of the NuLab Gulag were concerned.
No evidence, no prosecution, just smear - how very typical of NuLab's treatment of their cultural enemies.
Thank god they are on the way out.
Chris, Wokingham, England
I'm female amd I fully support what they are doing. I agree that the government has undermined the importance of a father.
Morag, Scotland,
Ho ho - great guys.
Ian Burgess, Bristol,
Tomorrow I go to the family court here in Thailand & I thank the Lord that this is not UK. Here the courts assess both parents equally and if they decide that both are capable and willing to raise the child then they will each be given 15 days p month. If 1 side dosn't comply they lose all rights
Richard Vine, Hua Hin, Thailand
What about the conduct of their wives? I'd love to know how women justify taking money that they have not earned and denying a man his right to see his child.
I am so incredibly ashamed to be a woman and it is getting worse.
jo, london, uk
If the roles weere reversed and it was women who had the equivelant amount of rights there would be a hundred womens groups protesting using stunts far worse than this (don't forget the suffragettes made a bomb) and all the women on here will say they are justifed. Female double standards
Sean, Morecambe,
Criminal morons.
Some example to their kids.
Mike S, London,
Strange how those attacking F4J are unable to offer a better approach to exposing the anti-male, anti-father family law of the UK.
The gender biased status quo pleases the critics.
Kash, London, UK
Where are the smokers for justice?
Cromwell, Leeds, England
Good for you, boys. Harriet Harman was one of the movers and shakers of this absurd legialation - she is responsible like none other for the unfairness that is now virtually inevitable in divorce. It has nothing to do with the support of children, everything to do with income for the government.
Alasdair, Montauban, France
Hannah Fletcher says they are 'infamous' but I am inclined to think that truth and justice and morality are on their side. A prison sentence for waving at his children! If that happened to me I think I might be climbing roofs.
Andrew Chapman, Newcastle upon Tyne, England
My two experiences.
1st father (1st born) had regular contact & made sacrifices, childs face lights up at his name.
2nd man, only saw 2nd & 3rd born when it suited, took us to court, spuriously, landed a Court Order, better than what he requested, he doesnt visit them. He's lost them!
Justice?
Jo, Devon, England
In this stalinist police state, how else can a silent majority make themselves heard? Democracy has broken down, we are ruled by an elite of greedy selfish idiots, and until that is fixed there will be more and more direct action protests.
Stu, Oxford, UK
I have been separated from my two sons, who are now young adults, practically since their infancy, because of the selfishness of my ex-wife. Naturally, I fully support their protests because I know the desperation they are going through and I wish them every success.
Bruce McCann, Guanajuato, Mexico
Well done gentlemen. For all those claiming that they are "damaging" the progress being made by other groups, I'd say "What progress?". Living in Canada, I've heard of Fathers 4 Justice, but no other group in the UK. Harman isn't going to listen to anybody who is not is a position embarass/harm her.
Scott Elliott, Toronto, Canada
Unfortunately people have to resort to direct action as it is the only thing this government understands. I am glad that Harmon had to abandon her house as she is typical of Labour politicians (and this includes G Brown) who think they have the absolute right to ride roughshod over peoples' views.
Michael Cawood, Wrexham, Wales, UK
I think what they have done is very wrong and not the way to go about being good role models for their children. Children do need fathers and its the children that are suffering not just the fathers, its the children that need justice! But this not the right way to go about it.
nicky, hertfordshire,
They are in for a hell of a punishment beating when they get down. They cant have clowns making fools of a member of the government. This woman has a history of lax security. It is time that she was the one taken away and given a good ..... .
Tim, London, UK
I wondered when F4J would start up again. Their aims are understandable as is their frustration with the family justice system - children have a right to know both their parents - but their tactics leave a lot to be desired,
Inéz L Collier, Epping, England
We now live in a society (which predates New Labour) where we are apparently "consulted" and encouraged to "have our say". This is time wasted, as the outcomes are decided beforehand.
The only remaining approach is to be as disruptive as possible to a system which is as dirigiste as it can be.
Peter, Southwold,
Does Harriet Harman have children? Because I can't imagine that they feel particularly safe at the moment. It doesn't seem very well thought out, although I agree that the process for fathers having access should be easier.
What is this supposed to achieve?
Sarah, London,
Good of F4InJ to set up a few blokes to post comments, maybe this sort of invasive, aggressive behaviour is why some of them have failed relationships. They just can't behave like adults, and imagine that they, with their offensive behaviour, are in any way essential to a child's healthy develoment?
Chloe, London,
I support you F4J, you fight is a just and noble fight. More and better rights and protection for fathers. Highlighting such grievances are long overdue.
tk, geneva,
It's nice to see Cooper Black making a long overdue comeback.
David Masu, Zürich,
It seems that one of the last acceptable forms of injustice and discrimination are against men as parents. I wish I were there with them.
David, Norfolk,
"[Mr Westell] said he was supposed to be on Ms Harman's roof himself, but his alarm had failed to go off that morning"
Haha. Let's hope al' Qaeda buy their alarm clocks from the same supplier.
Stuart, Southampton, UK
Some short-sighted and weak women ban fathers as a cruel and immature act of revenge- and because they can- if they choose to do so they are supported by the courts. Men don't stand a chance and end up deeply abused, perhaps simply for not meeting a woman's expectations- not because they were bad.
Michelle Luna, London, United Kingdom
I have to say that as a child of a single mother I feel that fathers themselves have contributed as much evidence in the last 30 years that many can and do fail their children as any report or government legislation.
Irresponsibility has caused this. It is not rampant persecution of fathers.
Dan, Dundee,
Boys need a role model; so the most important person in a boy's life is his dad - for a girl - her father is the first male that she encounters; if he is always there to protect her; then her opinions on men are going to be positive. A win win... Let's celebrate this father's day
Pat, Tampa Bay, USA
They'll get 42 days for this !
Wills, Soton, UK
It couldn't have happenned to a better man.. sorry woman.. nope I mean person, you know that is Harman .. oh whoopsy-daisy I mean Har-person. Oh Bother! what's the politically correct thing to say these days.
John Goode, Welwyn Garden City, UK
And just what are these fathers teaching their children? Invade other people's privacy and families, don't worry about the dangers of climbing on roofs etc. Until I read this, I always believed in the group - these guys have made a complete mockery of the cause.
Mills, LOndon, UK
The legal system is a shambles. Fathers should have equal rights to mothers, just like women have equal employment rights nowadays.
It is preposterous to pretend that fathers are bad for their kids just because it suits some mothers to say so.
Alfred, Isle of Wight, UK
Clearly there are some people out there who think that the way to get things done is to sit on your arse and just hope it happens. How do these mens' actions make them unfit fathers? Please explain. Good luck fellas!
Tim, Spalding,
Why is it that people often think "the childrens best interests are with the mother". I know there are some fantastic single dads out there, and I'm one of them..
Good on ya boys!!
Damian, Takeley,
Some people here condoning and encouraging illegal acts.
No doubt you cannot wait to vote for David Cameron! Are the Tories the party of lawbreakers?
M Dunn, London,
I can't get any info on WHY that man can't see his children.
Presumably there is more to the story. Before everyone starts bandwagon-jumping. Their website is rather vague on aims.
Do they have a point or are they anti-feminist reactionaries? Its up to them to prove it with words not costumes.
Claire, Wales,
Good on them !. This shows that if the Government and Judiciary will not listen then people are going to be forced to take such direct actions as this. Well done and keep it up. By the way I am in no way connected with F4J but fully support them and anyone else who takes such actions.
John, Woking, Surrey
Fathers 4 Justice, biggest load of bully boy attention seeking losers around.
Their wives don't want them, ever wonder why?
David Diggins, Derby., England.
FfJ are idiots, who harm to their cause, and the good work being done by bodies such as Fathers Direct. How interesting that one of the men involved in a previous brainless FfJ stunt was shown as a misogynist with a new baby by another woman that he had abandoned. The kids are better off without 'em
Gill, London,
I wonder how the children of these protesters feel about the antics of their embarressing fathers - with humiliation I shouldn't wonder?
Some people are denied access to their children for good reason.
RK, Sheffield, England
What a lot of bitter men! Would you like it if someone invaded your home? Would you like it if other people cheered them on?
pat, Marlborough,
Paul Moxon, Birmingham
What do you suggest they do? Sit somewhere and hold a banner that everyone just ignores?
They are standing up to what they think (and is) a great injustice and getting their plight publicised. I congratulate them for it!
Jamie, Halifax, West Yorkshire
They are behaving like any group who don't get justice
William, London, UK
Now, would that be Harman the Harpy's main residence or the one that the tax payers fork out for?
Regardless, well done lads.
J.MacKie, sheffield, england
Well done to Fathers 4 Justice. Lets hope we also end the insane notion that a father can be anything other than a male who was or is in a relationship with the mother. Bringing up a child without a strong heterosexual male presence in the child's life is an abuse of the child's human rights.
Roger Johnson, London, UK
Excellent - if this is what it takes to make government ministers listen, then so be it. Labour has undermined the role of the father for so many years.
RB, Aberdeen,
The same Harriet Harman who had her blog hijacked after using Harriet and Harman as her user ID and password. She must have left the door open. So hopefully the F4J (does that stand for Fantastic 4) cannot be charged with breaking and entering.
Martyn, calvia, spain
good on you lads keep it up.
Craig, Staffs, england
Well done for standing up and actually doing something.
Mike Jones, Farnborough, Hampshire
These idiots are doing more damage for the rights of Father's than good.
Oh I'm sure they will regain access to their children by dressing up as comic characters and climbing on top of peoples rooftops. If anything their actions are proving why they've been denied access in the first place.
Paul Moxon , Birmingham,
Its obvious that they shouldnt be allowed to see their children, they are male, have two legs, two arms, like women from a sexual perspective and are probably english. It just doesnt fit with Gordies view of Britishness and new labour political correctness
James, Southampton / Auckland, England / New Zealand