David Smith
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AS he flies out to Beijing this week hoping to cheer British success at the Olympics, Gordon Brown can allow himself the tiniest of personal celebrations, according to the latest poll for The Sunday Times.
Labour’s ratings and those of the prime minister himself are getting no better, but at least they have stopped getting worse.
The YouGov poll shows David Cameron’s Tories in a 20-point lead, down narrowly from last month’s 22 points, while Labour’s support is at 25%, where it has been stuck every month since May, suggesting this may be as low as the party can go. The Conservatives have edged down from their peak of 47%, which the party enjoyed in June and July, to 45%. The Liberal Democrats are up from 16% to 18%.
Cameron’s ratings are still well ahead of Brown’s. A net 32% of voters think he is doing a good job as opposition leader, while a net 55% say Brown is doing badly as prime minister. Even on this question, however, the gap between them has narrowed slightly over the past two months.
Brown may also allow himself a small cheer for the fact that, so far at least, he is well ahead in the public mind of his main rival for the Labour leadership, David Miliband.
The foreign secretary, who has failed to quell speculation that he is plotting a challenge to Brown, is regarded by only 21% of voters as potentially a better prime minister. Brown, rated as a better leader by 38% of voters, enjoys a two-to-one lead over his rival. Among Labour supporters, Brown is ahead by 51% to 21%.
Miliband, however, appeals more to supporters of other parties. While Labour voters say they would be less likely to back the party if he was leader, Conservative and Lib Dem supporters say it would draw them more towards Labour.
A change of leader does not appear to be the answer to Labour’s problems. It makes little difference to people’s willingness to vote for the party.
With the economic news getting gloomier by the day, Cameron and George Osborne, the shadow chancellor, enjoy a two-to-one lead over Brown and Alistair Darling when people were asked whom they trusted to run the economy.
But public opinion appears to be still in a state of flux. Asked whether the Tories would be better at handling Britain’s current problems, only 33% thought they would, while 36% said they would not.
People are still very gloomy about the economic outlook and house prices, after the Bank of England’s warning last week that the economy would stagnate over the next 12 months. Surprisingly, however, they are marginally less gloomy than a month ago.
In the light of the crisis in Georgia, YouGov asked whether Britain and other western governments were caught napping by Russia’s actions. By 57% to 11% they said they were, and by 48% to 24% that the West should fear Russian military power.
People are less certain, however, of what the correct course of action should have been for the West. Only 32% think Britain and other western countries should have done more to help Georgia.
Following reports last week of a record number of Britons abroad being arrested for drunkenness, the poll tested attitudes to such behaviour. One third, 34%, said they had personally witnessed drunken behaviour by holidaying Britons. A big majority, 73%, said it made them ashamed to be British.
The poll also tested attitudes to holidaying in Britain. There have been reports of a late rush for overseas breaks, after weeks of poor weather at home. Nearly a tenth of people polled said they usually took their main holiday abroad but had switched to holidaying at home this year because of the squeeze on household finances.
A quarter of people said the bad weather had put them off holidaying in Britain in future, though 50% said they were happy to take their vacations in Britain despite the weather.
A bigger issue appears to be cost. By 40% to 13% people think that, contrary to what the British tourist industry claims, it is cheaper to holiday abroad than at home.
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As a liberal I too want change. I remember, however, the vested Tory capacity for defending privilege and excessive power for the few, and indifference to the weak. As with Labour now, incompetence grew with the Tories' prolonged time in office too. So I'd now like alternating one-term governments.
Richard Winter, Surrey,
2010 can't come quick enough.
Martin , London, ENGERRRRLAND
I pray for Good news every day - but this isn't it....
Richard, Bucharest,
The ratings have stabilised because Gordon has been on holiday. Let's see what happens when he's back under the spotlight...
Ian, London, UK
Why is this "good news" David?
Pray tell?
Or do you know something about the cretins who presently infest the govt of this country which is not immediately apparent?
Del Boy, London,
There is a saying in the City. "The dead cat bounce!"
S. Barraclough, Huddersfield, Yorkshire W. R.
there is just no escaping the curse of Magna Carta for Bruin who is about to go down in history as Labour's worst ever leader, no doubt to Bliar's intense delight
peter c, devizes, wessex
The only reason that Labour support has not fallen further is that they are on holiday. They will soon be back at their desks and the incompetence and dithering will return and then their support will carry on going down.
Brown and Labour are finished & I for one would never vote for them again.
john, swindon,
If the Lib-Dems are below 20%, then why can't Labour get there too? The country once had a Lib-Dem government, although that was now a very long time ago. Might we say the same of Labour in several decades time from now, with the Conservatives in power and the Lib-Dems as the main opposition?
Hall, Sheffield,
To speculate that Brown and Labour have reached rock bottom is premature. Your own Business headline warns of imminent recession.
The fortunes of Brown and co are probably past redemption but are in any event tied to an uncertain economy. 25% is a rocky enough bottom but it might well be deeper.
TrevorH, OXON, UK
If Blair was still PM Labour might have better ratings but fortunately Brown is PM, which will ensure that Great Britain will not have another Labour Party in power for at least 20 years!
Poetic justice is being served ~ Brown has inherited his own legacy!
Welcome ~ Prime Minister Cameron:-)
Anne Kent, Dorset,
I'm sure brown can find a hole at the bottom of his current hole. his talent for political spelunking is legendary.
Mitch, Wolverhampton, England
I am surprised that 25% of voters say they will vote Labour. No one I ask has a good word for them, only seething hatred.
Richard Partridge, Hereford, UK
There is a horrified fascination in watching this slow disintegration of Labour. Best for them if they call an election Now. The longer they try to stay the worse it will be for them long term. It could easily be another 18 years in the wilderness. I certainly hope so with the mess they've created
Tim, Atlanta, GA, USA
I'm reminded of the famous appraisal comment. "Brown joined the company at the bottom, and ever since he's been digging"
George Edwards, Beijing, China
They haven't reached rock bottom yet..
We've got another by-election coming..
then inter party war when Brown's "revival" fails..
then total defeat (3rd place?) at the General Election..
then the blame games begin..
then bankruptcy!
It's great!
Nick Dawkins, Swindon,
It's a shame the Labour Party took the whole of the UK down with it.
GJB, Slough, Berkshire
Next step after rock bottom is losing the election and then obscurity !!!!! Can't wait !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To think I helped to put these bafoons in power in 1997 - thankgoodness I had the sense to see sense and leave the Labour Party in 2002.
ian payne, walsall,